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Posted by: Bellyboomer.3048

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It came to my attention that Scarlet Briar is one really smart sylvari.
From the wiki: “She earned special dispensation to study at all three colleges in Rata Sum and earned advanced engineering degrees at each.”
The average asura spends a lifetime in one of these colleges, yet Scarlet manages to study and excel at all three. So she’s at least as smart as the average asura, probably smarter. Vorpp even says she’s a show-off, which would mean that he feels threatened by her track record. Yet she can only be 26 years old, maximum. It makes me wonder: just what are the sylvari capable of?

These plant creatures are already present in every corner of the world. The other playable races have been around for ages, building their strength and culture, yet the sylvari can already somewhat compete with them after 25 years. And meanwhile, some of the oldest races like the jotun are scratching their behinds in their mudhuts.
A fifth member fo Destiny’s edge? A sylvari! We reunite the three large orders of Tyria to invade the land of an undead dragon, who will lead them? One of those 26 year old plant people of course!

I once mentioned here that the dream of dreams is more potential than basic evolution. Instead of just giving useful features to future generations, the dream actually shares the memories and experiences from other sylvari. This would mean that the sylvari will grow rapidly in intelligence over the years, since they have acces to the memory of others who have had a lifetime of experience.

So yeah, smart sylvari+ present everywhere+ dream of dreams = sylvari will conquer the world?

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Posted by: RedStar.4218

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Her wiki entry is everything they could think of to show that she is extremely smart and strong and cunning : she trained and excelled with every main races except Humans (but she got Hyleks).
The only thing missing on her entry is something like “she killed a dragon by herself”.

Btw : since I’ve yet to play it, and for some reason can’t find any thread talking about it (I’m terrible at searching), what are her motivations ?

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Posted by: Lutinz.6915

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I get the feeling that Scarlet is a extremely and unusually smart individual for any race, not just Sylvari. Its not that she is Sylvari. Its that she is insanely intelligent.

There is, frankly, alot we dont know about her. We cant even be sure she is from the Pale Tree. Hell, we cant even be entirely sure that the Pale Tree’s sylvari were the very first to grow.

Scarlet is a character I suspect we will learn more about over time. This is an introduction. There’s alot we dont know about her but her intellect explains how she has formed the Molten Alliance, the Aetherblades and how she is controlling the Steam Creatures. Her connection to the asuran colleges also explains how she got connections with the Inquest. Its still possible that she does originate from a completely different timeline.

What Ive been wondering about is what is she trying to do? And also, how does Mr. E fit into all of this? True, Marjory and Mr. E met dealing with corruption in the Ministry but Mr. E also was the one who pointed us towards the Aetherblades and sent us to Marjory.

We are discovering alot but there is still alot more left to learn.

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Posted by: Bellyboomer.3048

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Her wiki entry is everything they could think of to show that she is extremely smart and strong and cunning : she trained and excelled with every main races except Humans (but she got Hyleks).
The only thing missing on her entry is something like “she killed a dragon by herself”.

Btw : since I’ve yet to play it, and for some reason can’t find any thread talking about it (I’m terrible at searching), what are her motivations ?

Other than being the most evil deranged chick in the whole gw2 universe, she doesn’t appear to have a motive yet, or at least not that I’ve seen. The way I’ve seen her she’s just like: ‘hey, I’m behind it all, I’m evil, and I’m going to kitten up your day, MUHAHAHAAHHAHA!’ But then again I’ve only played a little. There must be a lot I’m missing.

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Posted by: Mystic Starfish.2586

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Thus far, she seems to have a Joker complex, causing trouble and chaos because it’s fun for her.
In response to the sylvari intelligence, I’d say that the Dream definitely gives them an advantage. As stated, it carries experiences and memories of the Sylvari, so it would be my guess that all sylvari grow together, rather than like humans where we individually have to learn for ourselves.

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Posted by: Shoe.5821

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we don’t actually know this for certain, it’s unreliable.

we don’t even know if she’s from this world.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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I was surprised to learn that she even studied among the Hylek. We generally don’t consider the Hylek a very advanced race. Sure, we’ve seen them construct simple weapons. But the idea that they may have knowledge that the other races don’t, is news to me. The Hylek may be more advanced than we assumed them to be.

Also, we now know that she is not from the future, or an alternate reality. But she claims to have seen the Eternal Alchemy. What do you suppose that means?

we don’t actually know this for certain, it’s unreliable.

we don’t even know if she’s from this world.

It’s safe to assume she’s from this world, since we know she studied with the Asura on Tyria. What ever advanced knowledge she gained in the process that made her this super villain, she had to study it all first. And that’s what she did here.

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Posted by: Cyan.6904

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I was surprised to learn that she even studied among the Hylek. We generally don’t consider the Hylek a very advanced race. Sure, we’ve seen them construct simple weapons. But the idea that they may have knowledge that the other races don’t, is news to me. The Hylek may be more advanced than we assumed them to be.

Also, we now know that she is not from the future, or an alternate reality. But she claims to have seen the Eternal Alchemy. What do you suppose that means?

we don’t actually know this for certain, it’s unreliable.

we don’t even know if she’s from this world.

It’s safe to assume she’s from this world, since we know she studied with the Asura on Tyria. What ever advanced knowledge she gained in the process that made her this super villain, she had to study it all first. And that’s what she did here.

The Hylek have a lot of knowledge about quite a range of (deadly) poisons, and their remedy’s. They are most likley not the most advanced race, but knowledge is a deadly weapon.

Poison mass attack in future? =p

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Posted by: Evans.6347

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Some of her creatures already spit out poisons, it’s not far of a stretch.

I don’t know why we should assume she’s such a natural clever cookie though. The woman claims to have seen the Eternal Alchemy. In other words, she’s seen the essence of everything. If this is remotely true, and her little poem alludes to this as well, then there’s no telling what knowledge she really has. But does this make her a born genius?

…Well it’s complicated for Sylvari I guess. If she’s ‘seen’ the Eternal Alchemy before she was born it might be.

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Posted by: Dapper.1352

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She probably isn’t only 26 years old. Everything about this event points to her (and the aetherblades and her technologies) coming from the future. Or a different reality.

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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I personally don’t trust the Sylvari. Through the dream they are imbued with something similar to Asimov’s 3 laws (in this case the Ventari tablet), you [should] know how those three laws worked out – so a race with superior intelligence can interpret those laws and find a loophole.

We don’t know whether all Sylvari have this intellectual capability and that the case is merely that Scarlet Briar is the only one who has flaunted it. I strongly doubt that [genetically] The Firstborn are superior as there is no direct evidence of that, on the contrary it is indicated that it is just a system of control (born out of wisdom, which is distinct to intellectual capability).

It’s safe to assume she’s from this world

Scarlet Briar is in the unique position where she is a mesmer (masters of illusion and reality) who has intricate knowledge of Asuran technology (portals, including ones to the mists). She is shown to have ties with both The Molten Alliance and the steam creatures, most likely the one who was pulling the strings regarding their actions (she might not be the “big boss” though) – this means that she might have come from the alternate reality revealed in the infinity ball Asuran personal story (where our Scarlet Briar may not be using that pseudonym, may have been abducted or may have been killed). This ties in nicely with my previous idea of the Ventari’s Tablet being open to interpretation as the Sylvari on that side of the portal may have had more time to ponder it (as it is suggested that the other side of the portal is further in the future, unclear if it is ‘our’ future).

The alternative is that she was able to visit that reality and was recruited by the characters in that time/space-line. Alternatively, she might have visited that reality and saw that something must be done to prevent it from happening in ours and is, as such, acting in a benevolent manner (even though we, with our limited knowledge, see it as malevolent) – that fails to explain why the steam creatures are working with her (they could be illusions though).

Assumptions are all we have – ANet purposefully leave this stuff open-ended, so it doesn’t hurt to throw ideas around.

I have some plans for an infographic explaining my perspective of all of this. A lot have said the living story as chaotic and disorganized, and have criticized it for that – but I am starting to see many parallels (mostly with the help of watching WoodenPotato’s videos), similar to one of those movies or books that make no sense up until the very end (The Fight Club comes to mind as one example).

Asimov’s 3 laws: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics

Edit: Wherever I indicate her allies, add The Aetherblade as well – oops.
Edit 2: Somewhat unrelated to the OP, but related to my post is Countess Anise providing Rytlock as the Charr illusion during Thackery’s watch knight fight. She could be doing the same thing to us during this part of the living story.

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Posted by: Evans.6347

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I tried looking at Scarlet Briar (which is very strange for a Sylvari) as an anagram, but the only thing i got was “Racist Barrel”.
So that’s a dead end

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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But like I said, it is very unlikely that she is from the future, given the fact that she would need to learn how to travel through time first. And we know that she studied on this planet. So she must come from this time, and from this planet.

You can’t travel through time and space, and then take a course on how to travel through time and space. That is not the right order.

Also, the name Scarlet Briar immediately made me think of Briarthorn Den. However, there currently isn’t anything to link her to the Nightmare Court, and briar is a rather obvious and name for an evil Sylvari. So maybe there is no link there.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Briarthorn_Den

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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You can’t travel through time and space, and then take a course on how to travel through time and space. That is not the right order.

Read my post again. None of my assumptions are subject to that paradox (nor did I actually say that):

Scarlet Briar from the future: has already learnt the spacetime travel within her timeline.
Scarlet Briar from another space: different events leading to her learning the information sooner in her spaceline; such as having access to more complete research regarding the infinity ball (because “you as the Asuran” continued with the research, or because Sodd did the research in secret from the start)
Scarlet Briar from our spacetime: has already learnt it already (in secret – considering she would have had access to the device) and has visited the future or another space – has become sympathetic with their malevolent plans and has allied with them, or has seen a bleak future and is doing all of this in an attempt to prevent it from happening (an interactive prophecy, if you will).

How else would you explain the steam creatures working with Scarlet Briar? (we have no hard evidence about the Molten Alliance or the Aetherblades, so they don’t have this logical issue yet) The steam creatures are certainly NOT from our space and/or time (hard evidence during the infinity ball story, once again) – so she has had to interact with their creator/leader in order to attain their alliance (provided that they are real).

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Posted by: Plunder.8195

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I wonder, did Scarlet ever had the dream? Did she even awake from the pale tree, or is she more like Malyck? I don’t think we ever got an answer on why the court was so interested in him in the first place. The “Harbinger”, the Harbinger of what? of Scarlet maybe?

Does the Pale tree know about Scarlet, aren’t all memories of the sylvari accessible by her, at least in some form? I guess next time ingame I’ll pay a visit to mother ;-)

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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How else would you explain the steam creatures working with Scarlet Briar? (we have no hard evidence about the Molten Alliance or the Aetherblades, so they don’t have this logical issue yet) The steam creatures are certainly NOT from our space and/or time (hard evidence during the infinity ball story, once again) – so she has had to interact with their creator/leader in order to attain their alliance (provided that they are real).

Ah, I see what you are saying now. You mean she did learn everything on this world, but then after learning it, traveled through the Mists, and allied with the Steam™ creatures, and then traveled back. I would accept that.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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i was more surprised to know asuras accepted non-asuras on their colleges than anything else. that she graduated on all three of them (thought it was kind of a “choose one and never look back” deal) is even weirder.

i think the writers might have gone overboard with estabilishing her intelligence.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

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Could Scarlet be a by product of the thaumanova reactor explosion? It wouldn’t be a stretch for her to have been there at the time. It would explain her link to the steam creatures. It could also explain her portals and her apparent mental state.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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Could Scarlet be a by product of the thaumanova reactor explosion? It wouldn’t be a stretch for her to have been there at the time. It would explain her link to the steam creatures. It could also explain her portals and her apparent mental state.

don’t know. you’d THINK someone would have mentioned that there was this one single sylvari in the thaumanova krewe if she was there. i mean, she’d stand out like a sore thumb.

it’s one thing to never have heard of this prodigy student that’s, oddly enough, not even asura. it’s another thing to have the entire thaumanova krewe (well, those that survived) forget to mention that they had a sylvari krewemate, especially considering how it seems like the other asuras are offended by her intelligence. they’d pin the blame on her in a heartbeat if she was one of the workers.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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What immediately caught my attention, was when they said Vorpp had extensive experience on Thaumatical research, or something of that order. Once again confirming the link between the Thaumanova reactor and portal research.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

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don’t know. you’d THINK someone would have mentioned that there was this one single sylvari in the thaumanova krewe if she was there. i mean, she’d stand out like a sore thumb.

it’s one thing to never have heard of this prodigy student that’s, oddly enough, not even asura. it’s another thing to have the entire thaumanova krewe (well, those that survived) forget to mention that they had a sylvari krewemate, especially considering how it seems like the other asuras are offended by her intelligence. they’d pin the blame on her in a heartbeat if she was one of the workers.

You make some good points here. I can see her being blamed for the explosion and a sylvari would stick out like a sore thumb. However, so would a sylvari that masters all three colleges and this is the first time we’ve heard. It would explain a lot about her though.

Also, if you had mastered all three colleges, where would you most want to be?

To me though the main problem with this idea is that if she was present at the explosion, I would think that she would be rather angry at the Asurans. So far her anger seems directed at everyone else.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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what are her motivations ?

Unknown as of yet. She’s just causing mayhem “from Divinity’s Reach to Ebonhawke” (quite literally – invasion events don’t happen in lvl 1-25 zones).

Kind of makes an interesting thought on what her motivations might be.

There is, frankly, alot we dont know about her. We cant even be sure she is from the Pale Tree.

She does, however, mimic the Pale Tree sylvari’s line – “By the Pale Tree, what I have done? So horrific- pffahahaha, sorry I just couldn’t keep a straight face.” or something along those lines. This signifies she likely is from the Pale Tree.

There’s alot we dont know about her but her intellect explains how she has formed the Molten Alliance, the Aetherblades and how she is controlling the Steam Creatures.

Her dialogue implies to me that she did not form the Aetherblades, but threatened them into working for her. Whenever the Aetherblade wave comes, she says “they work for me, you know, because they want to live.”

She probably isn’t only 26 years old. Everything about this event points to her (and the aetherblades and her technologies) coming from the future. Or a different reality.

The oldest sylvari at this point is 24 – though they love to round to 25, the Firstborn were born in 1302 AE, not 1300 AE, which now puts them at 24 in 1326.

But if she was a Firstborn, I think there’d be making mentions of her by Caithe or something by now. Unless that’s for the next update with Scarlet. She is at best Secondborn, IMO. We already got 2 other evil Secondborns anyways.

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Posted by: Dustfinger.9510

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One point: Though highly unusual for anybody to study at all three colleges, (probably the reason for the special dispensation) asura don’t spend their whole life time in their college. They go to their respective college and from there, join various crews throughout their lifetime, in order to work on specific problems using the knowledge they gained at college. So while Scarlet is extremely smart, she isn’t necessarily smarter than any asura could ever hope to be.

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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Scarlet’s age is not particularly relevant since the Sylvari are ‘born’ as functioning adults.

I would take her statement about the eternal alchemy as sign that she has some unique knowledge rather than her knowing everything. In particular, I’m guessing that she can see something fundamental in magic/science that allows seemingly different powers to be used together using common principles (that only she understands).

I wouldn’t be surprised if Scarlet has seen the nightmare but is not part of the nightmare court. As pure conjecture, could it be that Scarlet has seen some representation of Abaddon in the nightmare?

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Posted by: Bellyboomer.3048

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I think it’s safe to say that Scarlet is most likely a mist-traveler. Whether she has seen the eternal alchemy, came from a parallel universe or a possible future, she probably did not gather all her assets on this plane of existence.

And I know we all have a Scarlet fever at the moment, but doesn’t it bug anyone that the sylvari are so advanced in only (and I must correct myself) 24 years? I thought about it some more today, and the there are almost as much sylvari as humans or norn in Tyria. Their settlements spread trough the entire maguuma jungle, yet the other races don’t feel threatened by their rapid growth. If anything, the pale tree can raise quite a horde of minions in a short period of time. If Mordremoth were to claim all those sylvari, we’d be in some deep kitten.

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Posted by: SinerAthin.2374

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To me, Scarlet seems like Joker’s twin sister turned space-time-pirate with an army of robots under her command.

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Posted by: Lokheit.7943

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My personal theory (just a theory) is that she got a very special Wyld Hunt, that required giving her an incredible intelligence and knowledge of many things, so she was created as a super intelligent being to be able for her task.

Somehow in the way, so much knowledge and intelligence drove her crazy and she twisted the way she was supposed to perform her Wyld Hunt (probably in its origins it would be something like using all that knowledge to make the world a better place, but she twisted that and is now following a new version of the plan). Or maybe she didn’t twist it, but she was destinated to make the races stronger to fight the dragons by giving them a wonderful opponent to keep them active.

PS: The wiki states that it is believed she was trained by the six gods… where is this stated? I didn’t found that in dialogues :S The edit stating that part is done by an IP with no other known contributes so I don’t know if it is trolling.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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That last line was added by an IP as seen here – which as far as I’ve seen, is utterly unmentioned. Unless it’s part of the Playhouse, that’s an IP who made kitten up and is full out proof for why the wiki is ever failing at lore. Random joe smoes go and put in whatever BS they want to put in.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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It is also possible that simply seeing the Eternal Alchemy is what drove Scarlet slightly bonkers.

“Madness is just another way to view reality”
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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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It is also possible that simply seeing the Eternal Alchemy is what drove Scarlet slightly bonkers.

just slightly.

i mean, it’s not like witnessing the fabric of reality could be mind blowing in any way.

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Posted by: Xaton.1902

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well for the whole joining krewe and stuff shes a mesmer she could of hid ehr true form possibly. and stuff.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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well for the whole joining krewe and stuff shes a mesmer she could of hid ehr true form possibly. and stuff.

mesmer?

everything points towards her being an engineer that happens to be very good with portals (which are not a mesmer exclusive, with the right tools)

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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everything points towards her being an engineer that happens to be very good with portals (which are not a mesmer exclusive, with the right tools)

By the same logic neither are rifles off-limits to mesmers: she has done a lot of mesmer-like magic (nothing outright mesmer though) which gives credence to her being a mesmer.

Another possibility is that, having witnessed the Eternal Alchemy, she is aware of some workaround for the splitting of the Bloodstone and has limited capabilities to be multi-disciplinary. That’s a long-shot though.

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Posted by: Lord Trejgon.2809

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That last line was added by an IP as seen here – which as far as I’ve seen, is utterly unmentioned. Unless it’s part of the Playhouse, that’s an IP who made kitten up and is full out proof for why the wiki is ever failing at lore. Random joe smoes go and put in whatever BS they want to put in.

nope that isn’t a part of playhouse….

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Posted by: KeyLimPi.9031

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You can’t travel through time and space, and then take a course on how to travel through time and space. That is not the right order.

It is also possible that simply seeing the Eternal Alchemy is what drove Scarlet slightly bonkers.

Also gonna go Dr. Who on this response and say Dalek Caan or “The Master”. Both say the fabric of existence and both were driven mad.

Thus far, she seems to have a Joker complex, causing trouble and chaos because it’s fun for her.

The Joker doesn’t do it because it’s fun, that’s a biproduct. He does it because he wants to prove no matter how moral, how upstanding someone is, they can sink, fall, and become the most reprehensible scum in Gotham. That’s why he doesn’t, or rather, can’t kill the batman. On the same side, Batman can’t kill him because he has to prove that no matter how dark someone may be, they can still be saved. It’s a product of duality~

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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Also gonna go Dr. Who on this response and say Dalek Caan or “The Master”. Both say the fabric of existence and both were driven mad.

Yeah, I was thinking especially Dr Who.

The Joker doesn’t do it because it’s fun, that’s a biproduct. He does it because he wants to prove no matter how moral, how upstanding someone is, they can sink, fall, and become the most reprehensible scum in Gotham. That’s why he doesn’t, or rather, can’t kill the batman. On the same side, Batman can’t kill him because he has to prove that no matter how dark someone may be, they can still be saved. It’s a product of duality~

That’s the Nolan Joker. The original Joker was mostly just a prankster without some ideology or complex psychology. I think the comparison is sound. She’s a lot like one of the classic Batman villains.

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Posted by: Amanda Whitemoon.6173

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you now what first hit me as strange, i think she is one of the few, maybe only one with a last name.

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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you now what first hit me as strange, i think she is one of the few, maybe only one with a last name.

A cursory glance at: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Category:Sylvari confirms “the only one” except for, obviously, Pale Tree. Some of them have titles, which aren’t technically part of their name.

Maybe “Scarlet” is her title/rank? Scarlet is a common dye. Maybe the next character will be a Ruby, Wrath or Cinnamon. Mmmm… Cinnabons. Or, most likely, I am talking crap.

Or maybe she isn’t actually a Sylvari in the first place?

Good observation none-the-less.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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everything points towards her being an engineer that happens to be very good with portals (which are not a mesmer exclusive, with the right tools)

By the same logic neither are rifles off-limits to mesmers: she has done a lot of mesmer-like magic (nothing outright mesmer though) which gives credence to her being a mesmer.

Another possibility is that, having witnessed the Eternal Alchemy, she is aware of some workaround for the splitting of the Bloodstone and has limited capabilities to be multi-disciplinary. That’s a long-shot though.

the only thing she’s done so far that could be tied to mesmer magic are her portals, which have already been giving a background that are not magical, but mechanical. she’s a really, really good engineer, she tinkers with machines like no one else, and she developed a new portal technology for her personal, mischievous use.

it’s all explained in game. there’s nothing that points towards her being a mesmer. not even her armor weight class.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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And she uses guns and explosives. That all seems like the work of an engineer to me.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I concur that she’s an engineer. Which makes me glad – I fought enough purple butterflies in Orr, tyvm.

The Joker doesn’t do it because it’s fun, that’s a biproduct. He does it because he wants to prove no matter how moral, how upstanding someone is, they can sink, fall, and become the most reprehensible scum in Gotham. That’s why he doesn’t, or rather, can’t kill the batman. On the same side, Batman can’t kill him because he has to prove that no matter how dark someone may be, they can still be saved. It’s a product of duality~

And that’s why Scarlet fails. She’s all the mayhem, but none of the goal.

She’s a copy of Harley Quinn, but without affection for someone she’s trying to impress (Joker does kitten cuz it’s fun and to mess with Batman’s mind; Harley Quinn does kitten cuz it’s fun and to impress the Joker).

Maybe “Scarlet” is her title/rank? Scarlet is a common dye. Maybe the next character will be a Ruby, Wrath or Cinnamon. Mmmm… Cinnabons. Or, most likely, I am talking crap.

Or maybe she isn’t actually a Sylvari in the first place?

Someone pretending to be a sylvari? Would explain the horrendous hairstyle.

Scarlet is treated like her name, while Briar is hardly mentioned. If either is some sort of title, then it’d likely be Briar.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Amanda Whitemoon.6173

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i just did the playhouse again with my sylvari, i was nect to her in the final battle,
she is huge

i know my sylvari is tiny, but she is norn size, im not sure on the max length of a sylvari, but to me she looks a bit too large.

are we really sure she is a sylvari? becauase her length plus her hair = her name doesnt all look sylvari to me, but she could just be the exeption to the sylvari.

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Posted by: VitalSuit.1980

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I just realized she’s wielding 2 Quips when you fight her in the pirate area in the Playhouse. On top of that she uses an Asuran glyphic rifle in the invasion events and in the closing ceremony she uses an Aetherized rifle.
Probably a stretch but it seems like she uses weapons of factions she’s had ties to (except for Molten Alliance). Aetherized rifle – Aetherblades, Glyphic Rifle – Asura (the 3 colleges), Quips – ???

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

i just did the playhouse again with my sylvari, i was nect to her in the final battle,
she is huge

i know my sylvari is tiny, but she is norn size, im not sure on the max length of a sylvari, but to me she looks a bit too large.

are we really sure she is a sylvari? becauase her length plus her hair = her name doesnt all look sylvari to me, but she could just be the exeption to the sylvari.

Legendaries, and even champions, are larger than their standard equivilants. It’s a mechanics thing.

Though oddly enough, the Shamans and Captains in the invasion events are even larger than other captains.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Amanda Whitemoon.6173

Amanda Whitemoon.6173

is it really stated she is a sylvari? i thought i read dialogue about it but i cant remember or find it. (the dialgue about the 3 coleges i thought it was)
or is the sylvari thing just player assumption?

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

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It’s common game design to make bosses bigger than normal so that players can see them in a crowd and clearly see their animations. I certainly find it impossible to see the animations of the smaller guild mission targets once they are in a crowd. So I wouldn’t assume there is any lore behind the size of Scarlet or her minions.

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Posted by: VitalSuit.1980

VitalSuit.1980

is it really stated she is a sylvari? i thought i read dialogue about it but i cant remember or find it. (the dialgue about the 3 coleges i thought it was)
or is the sylvari thing just player assumption?

Just look at her model. It’s pretty obvious she’s Sylvari.

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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she is huge

In two senses: she is a bit of a porker (at least according to her face portrait) – which is extremely unlike nearly (or every?) other Sylvari NPC. I am not sure if you can create a bigger boned Sylvari as your character.

is it really stated she is a sylvari?

She is made out of leaves and stuff visually. Me agreeing that she might be a mesmer has been shot down (for good reason), but I am still seeing it as a remote possibility. After playing the playground I see it is even more remote: but still there. Mesmers are “deceptionists” after all.

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Posted by: Mad Queen Malafide.7512

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And that’s why Scarlet fails. She’s all the mayhem, but none of the goal.

She’s a copy of Harley Quinn, but without affection for someone she’s trying to impress (Joker does kitten cuz it’s fun and to mess with Batman’s mind; Harley Quinn does kitten cuz it’s fun and to impress the Joker).

Harley Quinn is kind of a tragic character. She’s a doctor who has fallen in love with her patient. But it’s an abusive relationship. No matter what she does to impress the Joker, he always ends up treating her badly, yet she refuses to see it for what it really is. This big flaw is what made gave her character depth. And on top of that, she is hardly as dangerous as she tries to be (Batman always takes her out quite easily).

With Scarlet we’re seeing all of the craziness of Harley Quinn, but none of the tragic depth. She has a perfect degree in everything, is totally insane, and wants to cause chaos and destruction. But we’re missing that relatable side. I hope we get to see a more human side of her (even though she is Sylvari), that makes her less of a cartoon villain… but I know 99% sure that’s not going to happen. The writing just isn’t very good.

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