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Posted by: Stophy.9805

Stophy.9805

I know, I know. I am just now reading the books and snaff dies, I knew this since when I started playing the game and I was really sad such an awesome character died. And with his death great tragedy comes; they fail to kill kralkatorrik, destiny’d edge splits up. Basically the worlds last hope gets kittened, or so it seems. So to put a long story short, Why was this the outcome. Why did you do this Guild wars!? Whyyyy!? I haven’t completed the story mode yet, so I don’t know if they get back together but I’m reading this book and snaff is such a cool character. I just hope that this won’t end in bad because with destiny edge being such kittenes, the whole dwarf race falling to just a dragons champion, and the norns leaving there home and only being able to take a tooth (the norn race is beastly) I’m not complaining if thats what it sounds like. I just really, really, really appreciate the lore and everything you guys at guild wars staff do to make this story so interesting. I have never before been happier to play a game and go read books about it and scavenger hunt in game for hints on what might be in store(like the un-announced dragons in the jungle and sea) I really hope you guys can do something fantastic to fill this void in my heart that is the death of Snaff. Thank you again, and I hope that I can find my way to finally completing the story mode haha.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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The book is more or less the predecessor to the games dungeon story modes. Those story modes explains the aftermath of their splitting up.

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Posted by: Fafnir.5124

Fafnir.5124

Id just like to point out that if Snaff didn’t die all the elder dragons would be dead by now. The technology he built and utilized is still unrivaled today. T-T

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Posted by: dunnberry.2964

dunnberry.2964

Snaff 2016 make it happen

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Posted by: Stophy.9805

Stophy.9805

I don’t like the queen anymore.

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Posted by: dunnberry.2964

dunnberry.2964

Assassination of Jennah 2013! More likely to happen

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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The book is more or less the predecessor to the games dungeon story modes. Those story modes explains the aftermath of their splitting up.

That and the personal story until lvl 30. But you’d need to create a character for every race in order to see their separate story until they briefly rejoin at lvl 30 and then you can just do all the story mode dungeons.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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you might want to do all story dungeons, in the order they’re unlocked:

Ascalonian Catacombs
Caudecus Manor
Twilight Arbor
Sorrow’s Embrace
Citadel of Flame
Honor of the Waves
Crucible of Eternity
Arah

not sure on HotW/CoE, but they’re interchangeable.

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Posted by: Kestin.2368

Kestin.2368

Okay, look. You know those players who are just so ridiculously stubborn that they’ll lie around forever instead of waypointing, even in the most remote or hazardous places, because someone might find and revive them?

His body might be gone, but you’ll never convince me some part of him isn’t still waiting out there. He did mentor Zojja, so he can’t have any shortage of patience…and with a mind like that, he’s probably not even bored.

So there’s no need to despair. Once that area opens up to players, someone will notice the “defeated ally” mark on their minimap and go get him. (I doubt the immediate area is as enemy-saturated as it was during the event.)

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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Okay, look. You know those players who are just so ridiculously stubborn that they’ll lie around forever instead of waypointing, even in the most remote or hazardous places, because someone might find and revive them?

His body might be gone, but you’ll never convince me some part of him isn’t still waiting out there. He did mentor Zojja, so he can’t have any shortage of patience…and with a mind like that, he’s probably not even bored.

So there’s no need to despair. Once that area opens up to players, someone will notice the “defeated ally” mark on their minimap and go get him. (I doubt the immediate area is as enemy-saturated as it was during the event.)

i know it’s not a serious post, but i’ll reply it seriously anyway.

defeated state is more like unconscious and less like “dead”. otherwise everyone in tyria would be immortal demigods that just need a little fondling every now and then.

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Posted by: Stophy.9805

Stophy.9805

I just think snaff is the biggest kitten and I really hope that isn’t the end of him because he truly was a great character in a book I read. Yeah that might sound lame but snaff will always be remembered by me if not anyone.

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Posted by: Avatar Rage.4369

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I just think snaff is the biggest kitten and I really hope that isn’t the end of him because he truly was a great character in a book I read. Yeah that might sound lame but snaff will always be remembered by me if not anyone.

He may be gone but his legacy still live on.

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Posted by: Lutinz.6915

Lutinz.6915

The novels all have some pretty awesome Asura in them.


Sadly they died in the last few pages of the book too… Arenanet authors have something about Asura dying heroicly.

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Posted by: Drakkon.4782

Drakkon.4782

Assassination of Jennah 2013! More likely to happen

Isn’t Thackery emo enough? Do we really need to create a new evil from a former hero? We just got him back into Destiny’s Edge. I, for one, really don’t want to see another cliche former-good-guy-turned-evil-overlord-because-of-girlfriend’s-death.

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

Okay, look. You know those players who are just so ridiculously stubborn that they’ll lie around forever instead of waypointing, even in the most remote or hazardous places, because someone might find and revive them?

His body might be gone, but you’ll never convince me some part of him isn’t still waiting out there. He did mentor Zojja, so he can’t have any shortage of patience…and with a mind like that, he’s probably not even bored.

So there’s no need to despair. Once that area opens up to players, someone will notice the “defeated ally” mark on their minimap and go get him. (I doubt the immediate area is as enemy-saturated as it was during the event.)

Erm… Zojja cremated his remains… And places a jar of his ashes in his old lab… Not sure how you “revive” from that…

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Posted by: Kestin.2368

Kestin.2368

Okay, look. You know those players who are just so ridiculously stubborn that they’ll lie around forever instead of waypointing, even in the most remote or hazardous places, because someone might find and revive them?

His body might be gone, but you’ll never convince me some part of him isn’t still waiting out there. He did mentor Zojja, so he can’t have any shortage of patience…and with a mind like that, he’s probably not even bored.

So there’s no need to despair. Once that area opens up to players, someone will notice the “defeated ally” mark on their minimap and go get him. (I doubt the immediate area is as enemy-saturated as it was during the event.)

Erm… Zojja cremated his remains… And places a jar of his ashes in his old lab… Not sure how you “revive” from that…

Shhh…don’t crush my dreams

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Posted by: Sirius.4510

Sirius.4510

On a slightly-related note, it was nice of them to follow up the Glint thing this year. I didn’t actually expect it.

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Posted by: Celebratty.1632

Celebratty.1632

After I read the book, definitely a shame.
Potentially awesome character is of course the one who dies, leaving behind five flat characters that are all so flat mainly because of his demise.

I say Snaff isn’t dead regardless of if I had seen it with my own eyes, because hes a freakish genius, and they always have a backup plan for their backup plan.
Perhaps some inter-dimensional contact with another Snaff from an almost identical world, or he could have pulled some serious watchknight skills and not gone at all.

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Posted by: Dmzsfx.8103

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What bothers me the most was that everyone did not fall in to protect sniff, all they had to do was hold off the hordes for just a few more seconds as Rytlock says…. but instead they left caithe to do it on her own? Big zojja was clearly cutting through these things like butter and you’re about to tell me she couldn’t have fallen back and helped? We’re talking about seconds!

This also makes me wonder why everyone blames Logan – sure he left but he had an oath to protect the queen and from the state ebonhawke was in, they surely could have used the help. Logan doesn’t deserve the heat really, if they adapted their plan to the circumstances and moved closer together when Rytlock ran I could see them having been successful.

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

The problem is, by moving in closer they would have lost the advantage of the choke points at the entryways. Thus each individual could have been much more easily surrounded and killed off. From what I can tell, it was just a moment of no one else hearing that Caithe had been overrun, and thus they were not able to fall back and assist in time. It was an all around bad situation, but strategy wise, I’m not sure there was a much better way.

I do hope for certain that when we eventually go into the Crystal Desert that we will have a chance to visit the old Lair of the Dragon and pay our respects to the BEST asura ever.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

the whole dwarf race falling to just a dragons champion,

Nope, the dwarves started the Great Dwarf Ritual and turned into stone to fight the Primordus champion but most survived that part (the players killed the champion in the end of GW1) and kept fighting against the Elder Dragon since them, so they died against the Elder dragon and not against the champion.

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

Ludovicus.7980

I’m near page 200 and Snaff is not that lovable to me yet. I wonder when does he get interesting. He doesn’t respect himself and lets Zojja treat him like an old rag.

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Posted by: THE DOCTOR.3510

THE DOCTOR.3510

What I don’t get is, Snaff died before they nerfed waypoints, so why didn’t he just res and run back to help? :P

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

Ludovicus.7980

What I don’t get is, Snaff died before they nerfed waypoints, so why didn’t he just res and run back to help? :P

Because back then, the waypoints weren’t deployed yet. They’re quite recent.
Jokes aside I wish the waypoints didn’t exist at all. We should have resurrection shrines like GW1 and 2-4 asura portals in every map that could be accessed from lion’s arch and/or the main cities.
But since this isn’t going to happen, I’ll just stick with the current method.

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Posted by: Fafnir.5124

Fafnir.5124

Snaff died cause Logan took his personal teleporter which was their teams escape rout putting them against a wall. Snakitten invention is how we use waypoints now can teleport everywhere you already been.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

What I don’t get is, Snaff died before they nerfed waypoints, so why didn’t he just res and run back to help? :P

because logan wasn’t around, and clearly the ancient god statues only respawned those that were with a human in the party.

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Posted by: THE DOCTOR.3510

THE DOCTOR.3510

Waypoints aren’t ancient god statues… unless you mean that’s what they used before the waypoints. That would make your comment completely logical, and mine, well, pointless. I think Snaff might’ve not brought exotics either, just kept the rare stats on his cultural armor. Maybe there wasn’t transmutation stones or something.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

DarcShriek.5829

Snaff’s not dead, he’s just AFK, BRB.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

Waypoints aren’t ancient god statues… unless you mean that’s what they used before the waypoints. That would make your comment completely logical, and mine, well, pointless. I think Snaff might’ve not brought exotics either, just kept the rare stats on his cultural armor. Maybe there wasn’t transmutation stones or something.

i was referencing the GW1 spawn points. the ones you’d respawn at if your party wiped.

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Posted by: Kirschwasser.3972

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How do you survive a dragon attack?

Run faster than Snaff!

HA HA HA

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Posted by: Getefix.9150

Getefix.9150

How do you survive a dragon attack?

Run faster than Snaff!

HA HA HA

too soon…

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Posted by: Hka.3942

Hka.3942

How do you survive a dragon attack?

Run faster than Snaff!

HA HA HA

Not sure if you could run as fast as Logan though, he’s pretty good at that.

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Posted by: Big Tower.5423

Big Tower.5423

What if snaff had a copy of him self placed in the wizard tower in kessex hills, he might be the ’’wizard’’ that lives there. as snaff was a master of golemancy and mesmerism, he could easly have transfered his mind onto the golem of him self placed there, that might also explain the precence of the arcane eye.

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Posted by: THE DOCTOR.3510

THE DOCTOR.3510

I doubt that because the people that go to the tower don’t come back, and I think he would go back to tell Zojja. He doesn’t seem like he would just leave her.

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Posted by: Lord Trejgon.2809

Lord Trejgon.2809

hey guys I have a theory….
snaff was in dragon mind.
he planted his mind in very very deepness of that dragon mind.
his BODY was killed.
dragon seem to not have any activity.
for example Zhaitan was hunting artifacts, creating and sending armies to atack, corrupting things….
but Kralkatorrik?
except that branded are atacking everything that will cross the line of dragonbrand, some shaterrer-champions of him he seems to be very passive – have anybody ever seen branded outside the dragonbrand?

so theory is, that in the while of Snaff body dead his mind accidentally runned to the dragons brain, and in that little moment of his “disfocusing” dragon runned away, and by now he is trying and trying to get rid of “passenger” in the mind (ofc Snaff’s mind would never let him to do that, so that may take eternity :P)

so maybe when finding way to kill kralkatorrik, we will figure out that he is still there, and will use it for our favor?
(and maybe before dragon actually dies, but after striking the killing blow we will transfer his mind to… maybe golem for a start – this with the head )

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