Guild Wars 2

While I was reading the various books in the priory’s secret library, I popped this idea.
Why abaddon is not classified as a “true god”? Though the other five gods had exiled Abaddon, I don’t think it can be considered a “lesser god”. I also came to mind that we well know what are the other five elder dragons, instead the deep sea dragon remains a mystery, a secret. I understand that you can not claim a link between the gods and dragons but still… my conclusion is that the sixth elder dragon (DSD) behaves quite differently than the others, as it was for Abaddon.

What do you think?

P.S. : sorry for my english, it’s not my native language, please forgive my mistakes! ^^

The term ‘True Gods’ mostly showed up in GW1 as a kind of ‘take that’ to the White Mantle, stressing that the Five were the ‘true’ gods as opposed to the Unseen. Thus, it’s likely that Abaddon was exclused simply because he wasn’t known at the time, and Kormir because for much of the Krytan civil war she wasn’t a god, and in the final stages news probably hadn’t spread widely of her ascension.

Which basicly means this book needs an update, since in the last 250 years Kormir is appearently widely known as the new sixth one (Divinity`s Reach cough )

Hrrrmn, I just re-read one of the references to this…

I think what’s going on here is that the book did get updated. While the gods seem to have missed a lot in scrubbing out references to Abaddon, if the “Scroll of the Five True Gods” was a well-known reference, they probably would have at least replaced the easily available ones with a new edition that has had references to Abaddon sanitised out.

It just hasn’t been re-updated since Kormir’s ascension. :P

Not really related, but it does somewhat touch on the theme of the “true Elder Dragon” was an interesting piece of dialogue that came from Ogden after the mission was over.

He said that the Brotherhood of the Dragon theorized that Glint might have been able to turn into an Elder Dragon herself if she continued to live and gather power. This might also touch on what is/was happening to Tequatl.

where did ogden say this? i cant find anything on it on the wiki

S2E5, after the section in Glint’s lair – you have the opportunity to ask him about five or six topics. In one of the resulting lectures, he mentions the possibility that Glint could have continued consuming magikittenil she became an Elder Dragon herself, but one that cared for the civilised races rather than viewing them as pests or food.

There’s no Five True elder dragons, there’s also not Five True gods, that’s just how humans describe them because Abaddon isn’t much liked. Now with Kormir, it’s six again. But there are potentially more, Dhuum and Menzies may or may not be alive still, Dhumm WAS a god, and I believe Menzies was half? Anyways Grenth overthrew Dhuum, but never actually killed him, at least not in GW1, he was in fact imprisoned in his own realm, much like Abaddon. Even then, Abaddon wasn’t always hated, many people worshipped him. It wasn’t until the bloodstone that Abaddon disagreed with the other gods, which is a really big mystery… nobody knows what he knew that caused what he did, but he went to war with the other gods over it and was determined to give humans insane amounts of magical power. Perhaps he knew about the threat ahead and wanted to prepare humanity, but ultimately humanity was using the magic to kill itself and wasn’t ready.

Menzies was/is Balthazar’s half-brother, but we know godhood is not, or at least not solely, inherited, so Menzies would not necessarily be a god himself. Since we don’t know anything else about Balthazar’s pre-Tyrian history (save that his father died) that’s all we can say for certain.

Dhuum, also, is a bit weird, in that Grenth did not achieve godhood and all that comes with it until after Dhuum’s defeat- suggesting that Grenth’s ascension was at least partially at his expense. I’ve seen a couple theories bounced around, that Grenth was a half-god already and couldn’t contain all of Dhuum’s power or that being the god of death prevented Dhuum from dying, but when it comes to the question of Dhuum’s current divinity the same thing goes as for Menzies- all we know for sure is that we can’t be sure.