The Scroll? Doesn't it sound familiar?

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Posted by: Arden.7480

Arden.7480

When I was doing A Crack in the Ice (I mean the last chapter) I didn’t notice that The Scroll sounds really familiar.

I don’t know in this Forum appeared any topic about it, but is there any similarity with the Scroll, who was used to kill charr and then drown Orr by Vizier? I don’t say it is the same Scroll, but history tells that there is more than one.

But if yes, why we found it in Far Shiverpeaks, because story says that they are placed in Orr. They are forbidden spells/texts. What if the scroll Braham used to crack the tooth was forbidden? Will it bring the catastrophe as another Scroll brought to Orr and destroyed it?

Because Braham heard that there is a Scroll, and we didn’t know who brought this Scroll there. We know that we were the 1st people in this place from years and years.

It’s suspicious and I wanna know what is this mystery Scroll- is it the one from Orr/Arah or the Scroll, who is just so powerful that could allow to crack the tooth, but it’s not the one the forbidden Scrolls?

I hope this Scroll has a story to tell, I would like to hear a dialogue in story who will tell is it a normal Scroll or the ancient, powerful one.

Does anyone have any notes/discoveries about the Scrolls? If yes i would love to hear them, because it really excites me.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Unlikely. Why would a scroll that was locked away in the vaults of Orr suddenly be in the northern Shiverpeaks (Bitterfrost Frontier isn’t Far Shiverpeaks, technically, but the northern edge of the Shiverpeaks before the Far Shiverpeaks)?

Besides there’s this NPC who makes mention of a jotun scroll Aesgir had and Braham says that the scroll is “similar to the scroll Aesgir used in his great victory,” which indicates that the scroll is more likely to be of jotun origin, and had been in the Shiverpeaks for the past 200 years. Perhaps it’s been there longer though, since we found it near jotun monuments (they’re right outside the other exit of the cave).

So in addition to the first question of why its sudden change of location, if this scroll was among the “lost scrolls”/“forbidden scrolls” it would imply the one that caused the Cataclysm was of similar origins which would mean the Cataclysm magic was made by jotun – why would they make such magic (perhaps, one can argue, their infighting got that bad).

Then there’s the fact these scrolls were forbidden. Why forbid a scroll which all it does is ignite weapons with fire? That’s not particularly dangerous.

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Posted by: Vesuvius.9874

Vesuvius.9874

Why forbid a scroll which all it does is ignite weapons with fire? That’s not particularly dangerous.

My thinking is that’s not all the scroll does, and even if it does, the fire isn’t any regular fire. If all it took to crack the tooth was a simple flaming arrow, how come no one else thought of it before? I mean, fire vs ice! come on!

There’s more to the scroll and the fire than what was shown to us.

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Posted by: Arden.7480

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But the Ancient Jotun lived in Arah, we have the Jotun Path in Arah-Dungeon. What if they brought the Scroll to the Shiverpeaks.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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My gut feeling is that the only thing they have in common is that they’re both scrolls containing powerful magic. It’s a pretty common fantasy trope.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

@Vesuivius: There’s no reason to believe the scroll does anything more than produce a very powerful flame to the weapons (one strong enough to crack Jormag’s tooth).

@Arden: The jotun monuments and telescope, like many other things, were brought to Arah by the Six Gods. We’re outright told this in the dungeon. There’s no reason to believe the jotun ever lived outside of the Shiverpeaks given the jotun monuments which have wethered there but are seen nowhere else but where they were “taken to” (Arah).

Furthermore, the vaults that the Forbidden Scrolls were in were made by the Six, containing those very things we investigate in the Arah explorable paths, and this was well after the jotun had fallen from grace and humanity had made Orr its kingdom. There’s no reason to think jotun (whether one or many) traveled to the heart of a highly religious human nation, accessed their forbidden vaults, and left with one of its contents back to the Shiverpeaks.

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Posted by: ugrakarma.9416

ugrakarma.9416

For me there is nothing special. It’s an old cliché in fantasy worlds the thing of “magical scroll inside a forgotten cave”.