Guild Wars 2

If Baltazhar is still alive, Grenth, Melandru, Lyssa and the rest must be alive too.

where are they?

In my opinion, the Human Gods are in the shadow, playing with the rest of Tyria behind the great organizations. They are too weak to figth for themselfs, they are using us.

The Exodus of the Gods was a lie.

In the nex expansion we will she The Battle of the Gods, to control the magic, and retake their godness condition.

they were never considered dead.
After the Great Guild War (the third of the three) the gods permanently left Tyria because they thought their meddling and presence was causing all the war and ravaging. They didn’t just abandon us, they simply retreated to some higher realm or into the mists. They left behind champions and priests, and avatars, etc. And they still answered prayers until this day (although less and less every year).
Now we learn that their magic is waning, and apparently Balthazar was the first to say “my glory before Tyria’s” and came back down to us to reclaim some of that juicy juice we use for our daily lives.
And I don’t even know if we will fight all the gods, maybe Balthazar is the only one going rogue, maybe he’s just the first, maybe he was convinced by Lyssa who was already crazed before Balthazar was. We just don’t know.
I can hardly imagine Kormir or Dwayna coming back at us. Grenth and Melandru I can imagine, but not until the very end, they would look for alternatives. Grenth is all about fariness, and Melandru loves all life indiscriminately, so she wouldn’t come at us without some proper instignation, she’s prepared to respond with violence, though, when we harm nature or wage wars.

Amaimon.7823:

After the Great Guild War (the third of the three) the gods permanently left Tyria because they thought their meddling and presence was causing all the war and ravaging.

Uhm, wow, no. All three Guild Wars had occurred after (and partially because) the gods left the world.

The war over magic was never given a name. The first Guild War happened because guilds, having gained influence in the politics of continental Tyria, went into conflict over control of the bloodstones.

But yeah, they were never said to be dead, and they left the world quite physically over a thousand years. That’s a long time for gods wanting peace or honorable combat to be acting behind the shadows. Especially for a god like Grenth who is all about removing veils and pretensions.

And doubly so when we’re explicitly told by developers that they left the world. When ArenaNet has twisting plans they just refuse to answer, rather than straight up lying about it.

Amaimon.7823:

And they still answered prayers until this day (although less and less every year).

They ceased communications – prayers included – around GW1’s time. They don’t answer anymore.

Even the druids, the most devout of Melandru, had lost contact with her at that time.

Amaimon.7823:

Now we learn that their magic is waning,

Only Balthazar’s, nothing says anything about the strengths or weaknesses of the other gods.

Amaimon.7823:

And I don’t even know if we will fight all the gods, maybe Balthazar is the only one going rogue, maybe he’s just the first, maybe he was convinced by Lyssa who was already crazed before Balthazar was. We just don’t know.

We can’t even be sure that we’re going to fight Balthazar. He’s certainly an antagonist for the PC, but he probably isn’t a Big Bad so much as he is going after the Big Bads in a selfish fashion that recklessly jeopardizes many lives. He doesn’t seem much farther over the moral event horizon than Canach or Braham, actually, especially if Braham continues to pursue his vendetta knowing what Taimi discovered.

Given how much it has already made for weird situations with player and NPC barks, I’m hoping that the plot avoids the deicide route (or leaves it to the Big Bad, but that would still break a lot of things) and just let us beat some sense into him and then shut up about it. Or maybe let Braham and Balthazar beat some sense into each other.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Amaimon.7823:

After the Great Guild War (the third of the three) the gods permanently left Tyria because they thought their meddling and presence was causing all the war and ravaging.

Uhm, wow, no. All three Guild Wars had occurred after (and partially because) the gods left the world.

The war over magic was never given a name. The first Guild War happened because guilds, having gained influence in the politics of continental Tyria, went into conflict over control of the bloodstones.

Wasn’t it the third war were Doric asked the gods to seal the magic again?
Maybe I’m confusing something up now.
yes, they don’t have a name, but they’re simply called the first, the second and the third, and the third was also called the great guild wars because it made the first and second look like high school bully-fights

Amaimon.7823:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Amaimon.7823:

After the Great Guild War (the third of the three) the gods permanently left Tyria because they thought their meddling and presence was causing all the war and ravaging.

Uhm, wow, no. All three Guild Wars had occurred after (and partially because) the gods left the world.

The war over magic was never given a name. The first Guild War happened because guilds, having gained influence in the politics of continental Tyria, went into conflict over control of the bloodstones.

Wasn’t it the third war were Doric asked the gods to seal the magic again?
Maybe I’m confusing something up now.
yes, they don’t have a name, but they’re simply called the first, the second and the third, and the third was also called the great guild wars because it made the first and second look like high school bully-fights

The third war was the one that ended when the Charr invaded the human kingdoms (start of the prophecies story line).

Amaimon.7823:

Wasn’t it the third war were Doric asked the gods to seal the magic again?
Maybe I’m confusing something up now.
yes, they don’t have a name, but they’re simply called the first, the second and the third, and the third was also called the great guild wars because it made the first and second look like high school bully-fights

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Orrian_History_Scrolls#The_Guild_Wars
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/First_Guild_War
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Second_Guild_War
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Third_Guild_War

The Guild Wars have a name… Collectively, they’re called “Guild Wars”. Individually, they’re called First Guild War, Second Guild War, and Third Guild War.

The war about magic, which happened in 1 BE to Year 0, did not have a name.

The First Guild War happened over 100 years after Year 0. The Third Guild War began in 1013 AE and ended in 1070 AE, with the Searing. The Third Guild War was never called “Great Guild War”, but in GW1 was the one people referred to when just saying “the Guild War”, since it was still fresh in everyone’s mind.