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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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Hello guys.

I was seeing the well known map found in the chantry of secrets and I was wondering what’s the 3D shape of tyria.
¿Is it a globe or a donut?
I mean east is clearly connected to west.
¿But is north connected to south (donut shaped world)?

On a side-note, I know the texture is on a globe, but in AC there’s a globe with the map of tyria (the continent) alone, so the shape on which the map is drawn is not a reliable indication.

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

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Donut. Definitely.

If you see globes of tyria why do you ask if it is a globe?

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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Donut. Definitely.

If you see globes of tyria why do you ask if it is a globe?

Because of the reason I’ve already written in the OP.

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

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In AC, that’s the GW1 map, in the chantry of secrets that’s the full world map. However, we haven’t even heard about the 80% of it in the lore, but somehow they know.

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Posted by: Alzager.7265

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I wrote about this in some length some time ago here and am still interested in it, but I have not seen any new information concerning the shape of the world since then.

Somewhere someone suggested that the texture simply got “cut off” at the wrong position, but this seems pretty unlikely to me, because there is no mechanic, that should do something like that accidentally and also there would be a seam on the texture, if this was the case.
And my asumption still ist, that someone simply did not know, what they were doing, when they created this texture.

Yet I think, that the best way to think about the texture is, that it is cut off at the wrong position, even if this was not done intentionally.
The map should probably look like this
This way the top could represent the north pole and the bottom the south pole.
Also it would fit what we know about the geography of the world with Cantha still being south of Tyria and Elona would be close to the equator.
There would not be any land at the poles, but there would be land close to the north pole.
Now, this is all hypothetical, but I think this is the best way to look at it and I would not be surprised, if they later on try to explain this texture this way.

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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I just saw your thread and it was very methodical. I hope we get to an answer for this question eventually. I’d like to cross the world of tyria.

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Posted by: BuddhaKeks.4857

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Everyone knows Tyria is shaped like a banana. :P

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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Everyone knows Tyria is shaped like a banana. :P

OMG!!11one1!!eleven1!! This explains so many things!!! And on the other hand it raises so many new questions!!
Is primordious eating its content?
Do de asura eat fruit because they lived in the dephts?
Is the flaming legion trying to make a flamed banana?
AND SO MANY OTHER!!

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Posted by: BuddhaKeks.4857

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What many people don’t know, the Mists are actually forming a giant monkey, who holds the banana. Isn’t nature beautiful?

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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What many people don’t know, the Mists are actually forming a giant monkey, who holds the banana. Isn’t nature beautiful?

Does that mean that the 6 gods are the aspects of the ape?
Would that explain why there are no apes nor monkeys on Tyria? (I know in GW1 there were some, but they disappeared)
Did the gods bring the humans from another monkey world to Tyria??

So many questions!!! So little time!!!

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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To answer your question Ludo, think of the world of humanity as an apple that was about to be chomped down on by a horse. The Banana was still a long ways from the hand of the monkey, so they moved humanity there to keep them safe for a little longer. :P

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Posted by: Valon.4720

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And why no lions in the whole game?

So many questions, so little time.

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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To answer your question Ludo, think of the world of humanity as an apple that was about to be chomped down on by a horse. The Banana was still a long ways from the hand of the monkey, so they moved humanity there to keep them safe for a little longer. :P

So let me get this straight. You’re telling me that the mists is a monkey and there was a horse in the monkey about to eat an apple which was a monkey world and the aspects of the monkey saved humanity from becoming horse droppings by putting them in the banana held by the monkey which has a horse inside???

And why no lions in the whole game?

So many questions, so little time.

Was the horse chased by a lion???

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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A horse needs to keep up it’s energy, lol. It’s very confusing, but once you start understanding the Meta-physics of the Mists, it is all actually very simple. You see the horse is actually the belly button of the monkey, and the apple that was the human world was much like the banana that is Tyria. You see they are outside of the Mists, but still closely related. And the belly button of the monkey that is a horse was about to eat the human “apple” world when the gods transferred them to the banana. You see the monkey was still producing an arm worthy of grabbing the banana that is Tyria, and thus humanity had more time to flourish. But the end is nigh, once we destroy the Elder Dragons the real fight will begin. We must destroy the Molars of Destruction (a.k.a. Monkey Teeth) before they chomp down and destroy Tyria as we know it. If we give the Mists (a.k.a Monkey) enough of a tooth ache, it will decide not to eat “the banana” and Tyria will be safe once more. As I said, simple. :P

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Posted by: BuddhaKeks.4857

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But be careful, the monkey likes to fling it’s poo at you!

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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Ah, but a world covered in monkey poo is one that is unlikely to be eaten by the monkey!

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Posted by: BuddhaKeks.4857

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You obviously don’t go to the zoo much. Monkeys are some dirty, dirty animals. :P

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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Monkeys maybe, but you don’t know how the mind of a Mist Monkey works!

EDIT: but as fun as this has been, we should probably revert something closer to the point of the OP, lol.

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Posted by: Ludovicus.7980

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Monkeys maybe, but you don’t know how the mind of a Mist Monkey works!

EDIT: but as fun as this has been, we should probably revert something closer to the point of the OP, lol.

I don’t mid, but since we’re in the lore forum. I guess it’s the right thing to do.

The whole banana discussion gave me and idea.

What if Tyrian doesn’t have a 3D shape at all?
We see the map on the chantry of secrets with repeated parts and that’s kind of inconsistent. But if Tyria was a closed plane, with the mechanics of a torus world, but actually flat, that would defy what we know about physics. But hey, so does magic?

So what do you say? Any chances for Tyria to be a flat world? Is it possible lore-wise?

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Posted by: Alzager.7265

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I think i know what you mean, and I thought about that too.
At first glance, this seems to be a nice idea, especially because it would be something different, but also complicated to understand.
But I see several problems with that.

First we know, that there are at least three spatial dimensions, so we assume that in two directions space repeats (= flat torus) and in the third it does something.

If there were something above Tyria, that is as big as Tyria in one of the repeating directions, it would span the entire sky in this direction (and there could be nothing bigger than Tyria in one of these directions). So if we see spherical stars in the sky, especially the sun, then they would have to be extremely small and bright floting orbs, much smaller than Tyria and very close to Tyrias surface. But even if we do not see anything span the entire sky, we should still see things repeating in the sky, especially the sun, and we do not see that.
Also it should easily be noticeable if the stars were small and close.

Another problem is, that there would not be a horizon. So a sunset in this flat torus world means, that the (extremely small) sun crashes into the planet at some place and later emerges at some other place at sunrise. And this is something, that probably would be known.

Also this would probably cause several problems concerning gravity and light et cetera.

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

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That would be true, if this was the real world, but far stranger things have been found in the Mists, and remember Tyria is a part of the Mists (how they are connected we do not know, but they are). I think I remember Konig voicing the possible option of the continents being like “fractals” and the oceans being the “space between” that people have to travel through. In this instance the world isn’t a full shape, it is a series of continents connected by oceans whose boundaries are not set. They are merely the travel time to the next area. This is speculation though. It seems more likely that they will eventually create a more realistic world that is set up correctly (semi-scientifically) so we can take it for truth.