The source of the dream/nightmare?

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Posted by: Mike Winters.6871

Mike Winters.6871

Could the source be the magic of the preservation bloodstone.

In GW1. We know that the magic of The Bloodstone is radiating into the water table and that is how the area around The Bloodstone is so overgrown.

The pale tree is planted within the Bloodstone’s influence.
[spoiler= the Seers locked all preservation type magic in it [/spoiler]
Because of all the preservation type magic the Pale tree would have been able to get big off of the magic because the area and magic acted like uber miracle grow.

Now maybe because the pale tree is intelligent it can sense the magic that has been locked up and flowing around it and in side it’s roots.
The Pale tree doesn’t bother questioning the dream because it would be like asking how It grew so big. To the Pale Tree all it needs to now is was just planted in a nice healthy spot with lots of other overgrown plants and has no reason to question why.

[spoiler= The other Pale tree may have grow out side of the swamp or at least above the area of the water table that was influenced by the bloodstone hence no dream that and the other Pale tree that made the sylvari probably kittend most of miracle grow for its self since growing fast can be seen as a survival advantage. [/spoiler]

Now to the nightmare. In GW1 we know people were killed over the bloodstone maybe causing negitive energy to go into the stone we know the the murrsat hated the the Bloodstone’s creators so why not kill people on it out of spite hence corrupting it. The bloodstone would have absorbed the suffering because its preserving. It doesn’t see good bad or ugly just that it needs to preserve whatever touches or is influenced by it.

Then Bloodstone’s reduced influence could be because the pale tree absorbed must of it

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Posted by: Mike Winters.6871

Mike Winters.6871

Ok I can’t get spoilers to work right

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

[spoiler=] Just missing the second bracket.

The only problem with your theory is the fact that there actually is no bloodstone very close by. The bloodstone that we know about within the maguuma is much further north in the Maguuma Wastes where, interestingly enough, a vast desert has claimed the jungle. Also, if you can claim it’s magic reaches from near the middle of the Maguuma Wastes all the way down to the grove, then your theory is also flawed because of the fact that the second tree is likely even closer to the bloodstone than this one because of the trajectory that we are shown for roughly where the second tree is

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Posted by: Thalador.4218

Thalador.4218

Personally, a theory has been forming in my mind that Nightmare is tied to mursaat magic (explained in detail in the Arah mursaat path, but in a nutshell they can phase out and “slip beneath the skin of Tyria” – as to what that actually means I have no idea (hopefully will do that path today).

It’s been said multiple times that it was the mursaat that had slain the people of Ronan’s village. It might be possible, that in their active use of that phase-changing magic, they influenced the area where the Plae Tree was going to be planted: both the victims who were killed by Spectral Agony and co. and the environment as well (they might have weakened the barriers between that “dimension” they hid in and Tyria. Now, what if the Dream is somewhere in that “dimension,” and the Nightmare is a sentient presence in that “dimension” that reacted to the invasion of the Pale Tree and the Dreamers in such an aggressive way?

Food for thought…

Scarlet’s Alliance Wars (a.k.a. “Guild Wars 2”)
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Posted by: Yata.8932

Yata.8932

Some of the Nightmare Courtiers that you can talk to doing a heart in the Caledon Forest say something along the lines of: “The Nightmare has always been. It is the dark thoughts and emotions that dwell within us all.” You must remember that the dream is, as stated by Trahearn (more or less, don’t know about that last one for sure, Memory, Aether, and Magic. the dream is full of memories, emotions and experiences from all sylvari,. The nightmare is just the dark part, the painful experiences, the dark thoughts and/or actions. But other than that, information is scarce, the dream is a mysterious thing indeed.