Guild Wars 2

Okay so im new to posting so dont yell at me if im stupid heh

I was reading other forum posts and some one head a pretty good idea that i will link in with my own

It is my understanding that the Elder Dragons are not mere inhabitants of the world of Tyria but are integral parts of the world itself. They have existed for possibly longer than the known history of Tyria and predate the existence of the current races as well as the Human Gods.
Whether the Dragons are related to the Gods or are a whole separate group of deity-like creatures is not known, but it is known that they have a great effect on the world itself.
This raises two questions for me. One, are the Dragons “alive” in the sense that we understand it. Can they be killed or destroyed, or are they – much like the Human Gods – entities that exist eternally, inhabiting different forms of existance (when we killed Abbadon, the god died, but his energy, powers and “being” was passed on to Kormyr)? And two, what are the consequences of destroying or “killing” an Elder Dragon.
I believe that the answer to the first question is “no.” The Dragons are not living creatures, if they even can be called creatures. They are like a physical manifestation of an element such as air or earth. They take on a physical form to better interact with the physical world, but they cannot be eradicated from it, only laid to rest for a time, much like physically killing a ghost merely dissipates it for a time.
As to the second, I want to know more about this. It has been a year since we defeated Zhaitan. While I do not believe that we have killed him, it is possible that his physical form was defeated. However, there have been no consequences; no fallout. One would think that by removing such a great force from the world would cause some noticeable changes, but the only problems we have had since his removal was the arrival of Scarlet and her minions. The rest o the world just keeps on turning. If such a massive, powerful presence is gone, shouldn’t there be a noticeable difference in the world?
These Dragons exuded huge amounts of energy in their dormant state, releasing power that was harnessed by others and had noticeable effects on the living world. When the Dragons woke up, they created armies and changes the very landscapes around them. Are there some changes yet to come?
I had thought that there would just be…more to defeating an Elder Dragon than removing the inconvenience of having its minions nipping at your heels.

this was a post i got from reddit from Knight_of_autumn

now what if the defeating zhaitan has the same sort of thing going on as abbadon did? what if his magic, energies, powers, life force, godlieness or what ever you want to call it is being moved from the previouse host to a new one? namely tequatil the sunless.

now i know with Kormyr it was instant but those are human gods so as far as we know they dont absorb magical energies . however a new elderdragon may need to start from scratch slowly absorbing the magic of the world. hence the new powers?

i dont know if you will really understand what im saying but

TLDR:
what if tequatil is becoming a new eldar dragon

sorry for wall of text

I think it was an ERROR to force story into Tequatl Rising. It feels cheap and lame, and even more, emphasizes the storytelling problems of the game when they do stuff like this.

First of all, the revamp shouldn’t have altered the timeline. If it got any story, it should have been placed chronologically when Sparkfly Swamp “storyline” happens. Gameplay patches need no lore-reasons to happen, and when you try to give them any, in most cases you only manage to hurt lore.

Also, I can’t believe I’m still seeing people justifying the return of some enemies. There’s only one Shatterer, and it dies. When we fight him again, we’re repeating content, not fighting his twin brother. Same for Tequatl, I hated when they said “waypoints were canon”, and now fighting Tequatl repeatedly seems to be canon, too, which is awful storytelling.

Tequatl Rising shouldn’t have any story at all, at least not outside his original timeline. Things like this make me lose hope in the storytelling of this game.

If it was in my hands, I would retcon the living world of this release, or just change it to something like Rox searching dragon pieces, with no relationship to the revamp at all.

I can’t believe we got this poor lore-excuse of living world story after all the storytelling problems . Seriously.

Actually there are more than one Shatterer.
When one dies another takes its place.
It is not a specific individual, it is a Rank.

If someone kill the general of an army that doesn’t mean the army will never have a general.

I didn’t get impression that Tequatl evolution is happening before Zhaitan’s defeat, he was never mentioned. Pact offensive continued after big Z’s defeat since those risen didn’t just vanish.
Real question is are we seeing open world Orr as it is durring Zhaitans life or after defeat? If its after defeat, why does i.e. pristess of Lyssa talks about Zhaitan as if she doesn’t know he’s defeated.

Lonami.2987:

I think it was an ERROR to force story into Tequatl Rising. It feels cheap and lame, and even more, emphasizes the storytelling problems of the game when they do stuff like this.

First of all, the revamp shouldn’t have altered the timeline. If it got any story, it should have been placed chronologically when Sparkfly Swamp “storyline” happens. Gameplay patches need no lore-reasons to happen, and when you try to give them any, in most cases you only manage to hurt lore.

Also, I can’t believe I’m still seeing people justifying the return of some enemies. There’s only one Shatterer, and it dies. When we fight him again, we’re repeating content, not fighting his twin brother. Same for Tequatl, I hated when they said “waypoints were canon”, and now fighting Tequatl repeatedly seems to be canon, too, which is awful storytelling.

Tequatl Rising shouldn’t have any story at all, at least not outside his original timeline. Things like this make me lose hope in the storytelling of this game.

If it was in my hands, I would retcon the living world of this release, or just change it to something like Rox searching dragon pieces, with no relationship to the revamp at all.

I can’t believe we got this poor lore-excuse of living world story after all the storytelling problems . Seriously.

I think if they keep scarlet separate from TQ it can have the potential for a decent story.

kRiza krimos.1637:

Real question is are we seeing open world Orr as it is durring Zhaitans life or after defeat? If its after defeat, why does i.e. pristess of Lyssa talks about Zhaitan as if she doesn’t know he’s defeated.

During.
More or less every single DE is tied to pushing towards Arah and Zhaitan.

lordkrall.7241:

kRiza krimos.1637:

Real question is are we seeing open world Orr as it is durring Zhaitans life or after defeat? If its after defeat, why does i.e. pristess of Lyssa talks about Zhaitan as if she doesn’t know he’s defeated.

During.
More or less every single DE is tied to pushing towards Arah and Zhaitan.

Tought so too, but wassn’t sure. I beleve that in that case teq evolution is happening durring Zhaitans reign over Orr.

However, that wouldn’t make sense kRiza, given Rox’s presence, as she talks about MA which happens – per our knowledge – post-Zhaitan.

If they do tie in Tequatl’s evolution to the LS, then it’ll be something terribly contrived.
Scarlet Finds the ‘corpse’ of Zhaitan, absorbs his power and then buffs Tequatl with it as a test. This then leads on to what she’s doing in TA.

I would have preferred a simple ‘the beast is learning and adapting’ explanation to anything Mary Scarlet Sue related.

I think they’re going to tie Tequatl’s boost of power to the Zephyrites, indirectly. Or so I hope… Or to Zhaitan’s death and finally stop skipping around the burning bush.