Guild Wars 2

Hello everybody,

The last months I have been researching after the race of the Largos. For the ones who dont know, the Largos are mainly underwater living creatures. They have wings formed fins and they seem to be wearing a mask. Very little is known about their culture. What we do know is that they originaly live(d) in the North Arctic Ocean and the Unending Ocean.

There are some dots I have tried to connect:
1. The Largos might have interaction with the Tengu. This is based on the fact that in 1326AE Scarlet Briar tried (but failed) to create an Alliance between the Tengu and the Largos. Since the Largos have left their homelands because of ‘horros’ (Probably the unnamed Underwater Dragon), they might be living in the water of the Dominion of the Winds, the main city of the Tengu.
2. Largos seem to have powers to just vanish. This doesn’t look like stealth, but more like teleporting or shadowstepping. This might be connected to the Mursaat. The Mursaat vanished from the world, and later the Largos just appeared.
3. The Largos might be affected also by Zaithans powers. This is redicted from the fact that the Risen Priestress of Dwayna looks very similair to a Risen Largos. Since we do not know that they had interaction with the people of Orr (Never seen in GW1), they might have used their powers of vanishing to spy on the humans in Orr.

What do these points mean for our current story?
The Largos seem to get a bigger role in the current world. Many rumors have spread that the Tengu will become an accesable race, or at least their city. When their city would become available we might be able to get more knowledge of the Largos. A reason that they can be interacting with the Tengu is that the Tengu seem to hae the knowledge of the natural awakening of the Elder Dragons. They could use this to get rid of the Deep Sea Dragon.

My personal opion and hopes for a future update:
I really would love to see more about the Largos. They would fit in the dragon storyline. We (Hero’s) have beaten Zhaitan and now they might be looking for us to help them beat the Deep Sea Dragon. Next to that it would be awesome to be able to enter parts of the oceans. This brings underwater combat back, and it would connect to the Dragon story.
I think it can be possible that when the Scarlet story ends, we would get acces to the Tengu and Largos city cince she tried to make an allience between them. This would be a nice step to get back to the Dragon Beating part of the Living world.

What do you think? Could this be an option or do you have a whole other perspective? Please share!

Greetings, Fvux

1. I assume you are speaking of Scarlet’s “Alliance Scrap board”, right? The crossed line between the two races doesn’t necessitate that she tried to ally them together, rather than just weeding out ideas.
The waters in the Dominion of Winds won’t be large enough for an entire water-habituating species to live in.
There has been no mention from either species of interactions between the two.
2. I would say, it is very much a version of stealth or invisibility, and it fits the ninja-esque theme of the Largos quite well, too.
I would refrain from connecting invisibility to the mursaat like this. That would be like equating a stove to a volcano.
3. Although the two models share rough similarities they are distinctly different. Superficial resemblance doesn’t mean they are connected.
Even though I can’t count out zhaitan may have affected the Largos, I’ll give them the benefit f the doubt until we have more information.

I do like the idea of Tengu and Largos interacting, since the Tengu are very much Samurai-esque whereas the Largos are more assassin-like, which would make for an interesting dynamic. Though I don’t think they have a lot of common ground to have those interactions occur on.
The Tengu will most likely be the next playable race, and the Largos will be released once the hunt for Bubbles begins, i.e. once ANET has found a way to make underwater combat fun

1- most of those alliances are just poking fun at the community. they made a largos/tengu and a largos/kodan alliance on that sheet, which would be the “please give me a new race” alliance, since those are the 3 most requested. there’s also a skritt/ettin alliance, suggested by our very own mad queen malafide, the “dumb alliance” :P so don’t take the chart seriously.

2- i think it’s more tied with their race’s assassin roots. precise, deadly killers that only appear long enough to deal the blow. i don’t think they’re phasing out like the mursaat.

3- i think that’s more to do with the risen priestess of dwayna being undead with rotten wings. she is most definitely not a largos. the largos were minding their own business on the ocean until really recently. they were most definitely not worshipping the six, and they would stand out if they did, but no records of their existence in pre-cataclism times exist.

i don’t think we’ll see largos take a big role in the story until we fight the deep sea dragon, just like i don’t expect the kodan to be of major importance (as much as i love them) until jormag is on the list.

BrunoBRS.5178:

1- most of those alliances are just poking fun at the community. they made a largos/tengu and a largos/kodan alliance on that sheet, which would be the “please give me a new race” alliance, since those are the 3 most requested. there’s also a skritt/ettin alliance, suggested by our very own mad queen malafide, the “dumb alliance” :P so don’t take the chart seriously.

The skritt aren’t dumb, they got a hive like mind. I f more and more of them are together, they are very intelligent. The Ettin may have a similar mind, but I have to reasearch it.

BrunoBRS.5178:

2- i think it’s more tied with their race’s assassin roots. precise, deadly killers that only appear long enough to deal the blow. i don’t think they’re phasing out like the mursaat.

If it’s tied to Mursaat, then we have many Mursaat worshipper. Thinking of thief profession, which also could step out of phase and shadowstep.

Horst Hortensie.5420:

BrunoBRS.5178:

1- most of those alliances are just poking fun at the community. they made a largos/tengu and a largos/kodan alliance on that sheet, which would be the “please give me a new race” alliance, since those are the 3 most requested. there’s also a skritt/ettin alliance, suggested by our very own mad queen malafide, the “dumb alliance” :P so don’t take the chart seriously.

The skritt aren’t dumb, they got a hive like mind. I f more and more of them are together, they are very intelligent. The Ettin may have a similar mind, but I have to reasearch it.

BrunoBRS.5178:

2- i think it’s more tied with their race’s assassin roots. precise, deadly killers that only appear long enough to deal the blow. i don’t think they’re phasing out like the mursaat.

If it’s tied to Mursaat, then we have many Mursaat worshipper. Thinking of thief profession, which also could step out of phase and shadowstep.

1- the dumb alliance is a nickname one poster gave to a skritt/ettin alliance. i’m just the messenger. and a single skritt is very much dumb. point is, those alliances are mostly just jokes the writers are throwing in the players’ direction.

2- shadowstep was in GW1. your canthan assassin could go through the prophecies campaign and kill a bunch of mursaat, and they shadowstepped. the shadowstep is their signature move, and it has nothing to do with the mursaat’s phasing.

Regarding your dots:

1) Like said, the chart doesn’t mean Scarlet tried, just that she considered. And as said, half of it is a nod to the community. Take it all with a grain of salt.

2) Thieves and mesmers are able to turn invisible for an extended period of time. For us players, it is short because of skill balance. But there are various NPCs that are stealthed more or less permanently in the game. Largos invisibility is neither unique – nor tied to mursaat which is not standard invisibility but phasing out of Tyria, the mursaat are basically halfway into the Mists (or something else) when they’re “invisible”.

3) Everyone but sylvari are affected by Zhaitan’s powers – and the powers of any Elder Dragon. However, your connection of the Priestess of Dwayna goes only so far. Originally during development that model was to be used for Risen Largos, but it was at some point later decided to be used for Dwayna’s priestess instead. As such, we see no Risen Largos. However, there is no tie between the largos and the priestess in canon lore. Your implied assumption that the priestesses of Dwayna are largos is outright false, as your implied assumption would place them as largos spies that were invisible amongst the Orrian people but the priestesses of Dwayna would have been public figures.

The rest… not really seeing a theory.

Well yeah, it is just theory based on different appearances. And about the Risen priestress of Dwayna, what sort of creature could it be then?

The V.8759:

Well yeah, it is just theory based on different appearances. And about the Risen priestress of Dwayna, what sort of creature could it be then?

human. at least originally. if it’s an orrian priest or priestess of the six, then it’s human.

how it got those wings is another question, but dwayna DOES have wings after all.

In Sea of Sorrows we see that all kinds of risen receive extra/new extremities, tentacles for arms, being the first example that comes to mind. Not only that, but we see risen sewing together abominations in the “factory” where some risen were created. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the wings were just fabrications.

I took those wings as being clothing of the priestesses at the time.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I took those wings as being clothing of the priestesses at the time.

and given dwayna’s wings, it’s not at all unlikely that her priestess would adorn wings.

Okay…So next to the dwayna priest, what do you think about the others?

The others… the other priests?

The Priest of Grenth is an old man in a robe. Again, mimicking (a depiction of) Grenth.
The Priest of Melandru is… a fat man with branches and a leaf loincloth. No mimicking here but taking her aspects into his appearance.
The Priestess of Lyssa wears a 4-faced mask. This is a mimicry of the dervish Avatar of Lyssa.
The Priest of Balthazar is a tall helmeted (shirtless?) warrior with a big kitten flaming sword (at least in Arah, don’t recall if same at the temple). Basically a warrior priest.

The only oddity with the Priest of Melandru that it looks like it has a bird head – or at least a beak on his face. It would be super-gross if the risen sewed a giant eagle head on the headless remains of the priest. (But then one has to wonder why an eagle… maybe they were sacred birds of Melandru in Orr?)

I always thought Mel’s priest was a Risen gorilla.

I mean more like the other arguements I said

Sorry, V, this is going to sidetrack the thread more….

Just looked at Randall Greyston’s page on the wiki for an unrelated reason, and he calls the various high priests corrupted avatars of the gods. If the priests were stuck in their avatar forms, that would more than account for the not-quite-human bits, it isn’t implausible given that the various statues already set a precedent for Zhaitan repurposing divine magics, and it comes straight from the mouth of an NPC in perhaps one of the only places in the game where we’re meant to accept the NPCs as infallible. Altogether that makes a very strong case.

Anyway, back on topic… I’m of the party that doesn’t believe the scribbled lines have any meaning. I just cannot take a centaur-quaggan alliance as anything other than ANet poking fun at our mocking of their predictability. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the largos had had dealings with Orr, though- the cultures have similar naming conventions, and Sayeh was quite familiar with Orrian writing in Abaddon’s sunken cathedral… and a link between Abaddon and the largos wouldn’t surprise me either, given the degree of shared attributes. The mursaat, though, I don’t think would be involved- they were supposedly gone entirely from the world until just before GW1, and then the race was all but wiped out during that game.

@The V: Already stated in my first post on the thread.

@Aaron: Given the fact we have an Avatar of Grenth (not the skill but the NPC) and Avatar of Balthazar (seen in two PS steps), I doubt that the priests are stuck in Avatar form. I honestly think that, given how the priests were summoned (activating each statue), the original design of the dungeon was to be avatars and not priests, twisted by Zhaitan. Likely they ran out of time for new models but had the VO done already – which is also likely the reason why Zhaitan’s Rest is lacking a body of Zhaitan (when the model changed – as we see what is most likely Zhaitan’s corpse in the first trailer).