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Posted by: jweez.7214

jweez.7214

This could be boneheaded but I wanted to bring it to you guys. Maybe you can help solidify this theory or help to debunk it. Please with either option be helpful and respectful.


I am starting to believe that Scarlet’s end goal is to eliminate magic from the world. My reasoning follows.

1)Engineers shun magic.
This is possibly a weak point but I ran across it in the wiki when reading about magic. It plainly states that all professions utilize magic except engineers who are opposed to it.

“Of the heroic professions, all except engineers (whom shun it)…” wiki exercept.

2)Scarlet is looking for where two ley lines intersect.
We don’t know how many ley lines are out there but it makes sense that if you needed to turn them off it would be easiest to do so where many intersect.

3)Eliminating magic would kill of the Elder Dragons.
Supposedly. No one can really say that for sure but one can assume that if the dragons have nothing to consume they will not be able to sustain their self. IF the theory on the pale tree being a champion of an elder dragon is true this would free the Sylvari which we know is part of Scarlet’s goal.

4)Magic is finite.
Magic in Tyria is a finite resource. Because of this there is a possibility to rid it from the world permanently.

5)Society wouldn’t like it.
If eliminating magic from the world is the only method to permanently get rid of the elder dragons the major races possibly wouldn’t want to because they have a huge dependence on it.

6)This would make her immensely powerful.
Scarlet states in “What Scarlet Saw” that

“I have a great deal of work ahead of me. I don’t know what the world will be when I’m through, but I will very much enjoy finding out. Empires will fall, continents will burn, and when the conflagration is over, I’ll be there to put my stamp on whatever new world this one becomes.”

Surely an exhaustion of magic from the world could create the circumstances she speaks about in the above quote. Also the last sentence sounds like Scarlet crowning herself queen or something. With her advance knowledge of engineering and her armies already in place she would be in a great position to conquer the world.

Anyway there it is guys. Let me know what you guys think.

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Posted by: kta.6502

kta.6502

This could be boneheaded but I wanted to bring it to you guys. Maybe you can help solidify this theory or help to debunk it. Please with either option be helpful and respectful.

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BOMBSHELL! You’re definitely on to something with #1. If you look at the Elder Dragons section in the same article, you’ll notice it states, “The natural role of the Elder Dragons is to keep magic balanced by consuming it and drawing it into themselves.”

Magic and dragons are connected. If Scarlet succeeds in her goals, she could release another dragon for the PCs to kill, and if all the dragons are killed, magic will cease to exist.

In the Sylvari personal story line, the PC’s Wyld Hunt (in all 3 storylines) revolves around killing dragons. The Pale Tree’s goal is also about saving Tyria from the dragons.

I definitely agree with you on this one. I’m also going to add that all Sylvari PCs want to remove magic as well because their Wyld Hunt is to kill the dragons.

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Posted by: Kalarchis.8635

Kalarchis.8635

A very interesting theory. Certainly one of the most original I’ve seen. Kudos.

But it only works if you’re of the opinion that she’s in control of her goals. They’ve made it fairly clear that some entity has a grasp on her mind, and that her actions are playing right into that entity’s goals. If that entity is a dragon, as many of us suspect, then it wouldn’t make sense for the dragon to want to erase its own food source.

As well, I don’t think she has the capability to erase all magic, no matter what leyline hub she has access to. Magic appears to be a natural force in Tyria. There are creatures that consume it (Elder Dragons,) attempts to contain it (the Bloodstone,) and sources of it beyond Tyria itself (the Mists,) but the fact that it permeates the entire world and runs in natural channels through it tells me that it’s a fundamental part of the world.

That’s not to say that the world couldn’t exist without it, but something tells me that removing it from Tyria entirely is well beyond the scope of Scarlet’s power. Now, she could be attempting to contain it in a new kind of Bloodstone, sealing it away from the dragons. But again, I think she’s Mordremoth’s puppet, and I don’t see why he would want to do away with his food.

Magic and dragons are connected. If Scarlet succeeds in her goals, she could release another dragon for the PCs to kill, and if all the dragons are killed, magic will cease to exist.

Magic and the dragons appear to be connected in the way that leeches and blood are connected. There’s nothing to suggest that killing them would do away with magic; indeed, the opposite. Killing them would allow magic to keep building up unchecked; that buildup seems to be what triggers them to rise and trim the magic down in the first place.

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Posted by: jweez.7214

jweez.7214

Thanks guys. I am glad you guys see it as a viable theory if nothing more.

Kal, I agree that this theory only works if she is in control of her own goals. I haven’t found anything yet to say-definitively-that she is not. From what I have we know that something has broken in her mind. We don’t really know if she is in collusion with it or not. Furthermore, it is a beautiful irony that the being who wants nothing more than independence lives everyday with something compelling her actions. Perhaps that can be another reason why this theory works; she seeks independence above everything but cannot achieve it now with the voice in her own head. If the voice is an elder dragon all the more reason to want to do away with them.

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Posted by: Kalarchis.8635

Kalarchis.8635

The reason I think she’s not in control is something from her journals from the previous living story releases. From her main journal:

“Control of my world, of myself, is slipping through my hands.”

And from the holojournals:

“Ever since I came out of Omadd’s machine, you’ve been taking credit for my ideas. They are mine! Not yours. Let me be clear. I’m not doing this for you; I’m doing it for me. Nobody tells me what to do. Not ever. It’s not true. None of it. I don’t have to listen to you. Get out of my head!”

Emphasis mine. These lines suggest to me that, much as she’d like to be in control, everything she’s doing is playing right into the entity’s plans. That said, it’s likely that she still has some degree of control. How much, and whether or not it makes a difference in the end is yet to be seen.

I have a feeling that her end goal – whatever she’s going to do with that leyline hub – is something that she thinks will break the dragon’s control (or defeat it,) but is only going to cause him to rise. In essence, I think her drive for independence is working against her; it’s blinded her to how much of a puppet she really is.

That said I still like your theory

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Posted by: jweez.7214

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Thanks! I forgot about those lines of text in the last Ls. That does indeed sound like she lost control.