Guild Wars 2

Elrey.5472:

If you actually did read this entire 15 pages thread… i’m sorry to say that you’ll get no surprise. I know i didn’t get a reaction at all, i expected something like that. However if you are really into gw2 lore and how the world changes, you might have hype for a few minutes after discovering what’s happening.

That’s i guess the problem about the theorycrafting theories. If someone actually finds the right guessing and you read it (and you believe it makes sense and will happen), the surprise feelings are gone when it actually happens and your reaction lacks of emotion.

So no large amounts of threads of certain individuals hating the living story?

Elrey.5472:

If you actually did read this entire 15 pages thread… i’m sorry to say that you’ll get no surprise. I know i didn’t get a reaction at all, i expected something like that. However if you are really into gw2 lore and how the world changes, you might have hype for a few minutes after discovering what’s happening.

To be fair the actual datamined information (I checked it myself in order to confirm its validity) doesn’t really say much at all though.

So claiming that people who have read this thread won’t be surprised seems quite premature.

Darkbattlemage.9612:

So no large amounts of threads of certain individuals hating the living story?

That’s a different thing. People reactions are based in how each of us are. So i guess some people will like it, some others will hate it, some others will ignore it and some others will just say “meh”.

lordkrall.7241:

To be fair the actual datamined information (I checked it myself in order to confirm its validity) doesn’t really say much at all though.

So claiming that people who have read this thread won’t be surprised seems quite premature.

It could be just fake information, i’m wondering that myself. And since this is the theorycrafting thread… here comes a Theory: Anet knowns for sure how the reddit community datamines a lot of information, so maybe they did put fake information in there to confuse the people. If that information is used or not in the game, even if we know about that, is yet to be confirmed.

Indeed, they are fully aware that people do data-mine, and as such I found it rather weird that they would include such information (if real) in the dat-file, especially that early.

But time will tell.
Personally I think that while the basic story might very well follow what they have released, it is likely that it will play out differently.

It makes me wonder if Zhaitan wanted LA for the leyline convergence under it…

Erukk.1408:

It makes me wonder if Zhaitan wanted LA for the leyline convergence under it…

If Zhaitan had specifically wanted LA then he would have gone after it. As it stands there were never any major Risen attacks on LA (I’m ignoring Sea of Sorrows).
Had Zhaitan been aware of whatever if under Lions Arch he could have flown over and dealt with it – we wouldn’t have been able to defeat him.

I noticed that each of the camps set up outside LA is close to each orders HQ. If Scarlet’s going to attack the orders HQ all the citizens we saved would be back in danger, and honestly I don’t see much point in the attack. The Pact is still preoccupied with Orr, which means most of each Order’s man power is there, posing no real threat to Scarlet’s plans. So my question: why would Scarlet bother with an attack on the orders if she already has control of LA and the ley line crossing?

wookalar.8952:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Why couldn’t that be referencing their interactions in the Aetherpath of Twilight Arbor?

From what I understood (I’ve only cleared the path a few times), Scarlet wasn’t actually there when we went in. All that was left were her holo recordings.

From the first boss:
“Let the boss talk, Spark. She spent a lot of time setting up these messages.”

Also in the very beginning of the Aetherpath Caithe says:
“I met Scarlet in the Grove, before she went on her academic pilgrimage. I was not overly impressed. Now she’s sent me a direct challenge. She claims to know things…things I wouldn’t want the world to know.”

This sounds to me like Caithe is leaving something out about when they met.

That quote on the blueprint is just Scarlet scribbling something on the back of the blueprint. It wasn’t a quote of Scarlet talking to Caithe. If you read the inscription fully, it states before the quote: Backside reads:

It’s similar to Scarlet scribbling on the side of Watchknight blueprints in the Tower of Nightmares lab “stupid humans, always getting in my way.”

Kycoo Grim.9463:

I noticed that each of the camps set up outside LA is close to each orders HQ. If Scarlet’s going to attack the orders HQ all the citizens we saved would be back in danger, and honestly I don’t see much point in the attack. The Pact is still preoccupied with Orr, which means most of each Order’s man power is there, posing no real threat to Scarlet’s plans. So my question: why would Scarlet bother with an attack on the orders if she already has control of LA and the ley line crossing?

Well given the whole potential-ties-to-Mordremoth thing going on, Scarlet would want, via Mordy’s influence, to weaken the Pact. To do that, strike the Pact’s pillars of support (as Zhaitan showed, striking the Pact directly is not very effective). It’s a take on the “divide and conquer” concept – except without the need to divide.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Erukk.1408:

It makes me wonder if Zhaitan wanted LA for the leyline convergence under it…

If Zhaitan had specifically wanted LA then he would have gone after it. As it stands there were never any major Risen attacks on LA (I’m ignoring Sea of Sorrows).
Had Zhaitan been aware of whatever if under Lions Arch he could have flown over and dealt with it – we wouldn’t have been able to defeat him.

I would disagree, about not sending a major attack on LA.

He took Claw Island, but thanks to the mentor(s) and player character, the force was beaten down sizeably (per Vigil storyline right after Claw Islands’ fall), so a sizable force couldn’t have been sent to LA. However, after the “feint” assault on Lion’s Arch, Zhaitan struck the Orders’ HQs, nearly toppling the biggest threats to Zhaitan.

I don’t know if Zhaitan was truly after Lion’s Arch. I think he was trying to destroy the biggest threats to him – just like his assaults during Forging the Pact (trying to keep the newly formed Pact from obtaining ancient history that could help them defeat him; and trying to kill the Marshal at the same time) as well as the “dishonored by allies” fear storyline, in which he sends a mesmer to try to frame you, the biggest of all threats, and assassinate Trahearne again. Even in Battle for Fort Trinity, he tried to take out the biggest threat.

All of Zhaitan’s big moves has been to remove potential threats – though he never bothered to send his full forces, which I attest to future-Trahearne’s statements during A Light in the Darkness, that Zhaitan grew overconfident because he awoke on a nation of ready soldiers and magic.

I suspect Scarlet’s doing the same, even now. Her first assault was via the Molten Alliance, attacking norn and Iron Legion (two of the four biggest national supporters of the Pact); second was via Aetherblades on Lion’s Arch (third biggest national supporter of the Pact); her third pre-planned assault was via Toxic Alliance on Kryta (final biggest national supporter of the Pact). Then with Origins of Madness, we saw X’s over each Orders HQ and Lion’s Arch – she couldn’t have (likely) known that the probe for searching ley lines was going to trigger at LA. I think she was intending to assault the X’s after the drill attack, and it just happened that the probe that turned green was at one of the next targets.

Even though her arc is closing, I don’t think this assault was intended to become her final action.

This also matches the actions of the other Elder Dragons’ risings:

• The Great Destroyer awoke to annihilate all life, as Primordus doesn’t use living beings in his corruptions. When Primordus awoke, he finished the Great Destroyer’s job underground – whatever races the Great Destroyer didn’t kill or force out of the area, displacing them, Primordus did.
• When Jormag awoke, the first thing he did was topple kodan icebergs and assault the norn. Even before awaking, Drakkar spent years – decades even – obtaining a cult (Sons of Svanir) and using them to raise Jormag; even before awaking, Jormag and his forces was dividing the races.
• When Kralkatorrik awoke, he immediately sought out the biggest threat: Glint. Even when passing by, he struck an attack on Ebonhawke – something insignificant in the long run compared to him, but a fortified structure that held two military camps – it wasn’t even his main goal, but he went and attempted a minor assault on a potential military threat.
• Even the deep sea dragon went and assaulted, not enough to wipe out but force out, the vicious krait, resilient karka, and assassin-cultured largos.

All of the Elder Dragons’ first noticeable assaults, is them weakening or attacking potential threats – rather than them first seeking out ambient magic and corrupting the land around them to make minions (only Zhaitan has not corrupted the land itself into minions; but he didn’t really need to either, thanks to waking on a mountain of corpses).

If the entity is Mordremoth, that would be what Scarlet’s doing – on top of whatever plan she has for the ley lines too.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

If Zhaitan had specifically wanted LA then he would have gone after it. As it stands there were never any major Risen attacks on LA (I’m ignoring Sea of Sorrows).
Had Zhaitan been aware of whatever if under Lions Arch he could have flown over and dealt with it – we wouldn’t have been able to defeat him.

I would count the Claw Island attack as a major attack against LA. Without the Orders helping the city, it would have been completely overrun by Risen and taken over.

Plus, Zhaitan hasn’t really moved the entire time it has been awake. It seems perfectly content with only sending its forces out to take care of stuff. This seems to apply to most of the Elder Dragons, especially from a gameplay perspective.

It’s not really realistic, but having lazy (or just slow) Elder Dragons evens out the playing fields. With how powerful the Elder Dragons are, they could have easily conquered all of Tyria in a year, if not a couple of months time. All they would have to do is a fly over of the land and corrupt/destroy it as the go.

So, sure, if Zhaitan wanted something, it could have easily taken it. But if it did that for everything, we (the player characters) would have probably either be corrupted or killed a long time ago.

So I was crafting that new backpiece (it looks great, ty ANET:)) and i found THIS written on blueprints:
“Caithe, someday you will see. Tyria needs me. -Scarlet.”
It is interesting, because it seems to me like Scarlet is presenting herself as “savior of Tyria”, or a “good guy”.
Any ideas what it means?

I was discussing that quote with Konig earlier (in game), and he supposed it’s just Scarlet’s ego. However, to me it does seem like the quote hints at Scarlet seeing herself as a force for a greater good. Of course, we don’t know the context of the quote.

But you’ve been stuck on the theory that Scarlet’s out to fight Elder Dragons, Malafide.

Which just doesn’t seem likely.

It seems less of “greater good” and more of “I’m too important to be washed aside!”

I think what she’s saying isn’t as important as who she’s saying it to.

Why not address it to the Pale Tree, why not anyone else who doubts Tyria needs her, which is almost everyone?

She states she knows one of Caithe’s darkest secrets or perhaps even more than one and we know from the Aetherpath that Scarlet and Ceara knew each other, though how well is not explicitly stated, just that Caithe ’wasn’t impressed’.

Either way, I think the blades are a small part of her overall ‘battle suit’ we’ll see her in during next release, and I hope this secret is revealed, be it either Scarlet just screwing with her and there is no secret or the actual secret itself.

I’d argue it’s to Caithe because of how Caithe viewed Ceara. In Twilight Arbor, Caithe says she remembers Ceara but that she wasn’t impressed. Pale Tree, on the other hand, makes mention that she was gifted and the like. Almost everyone else did.

Caithe is the only NPC in the entire game who is unimpressed in some fashion by Scarlet.

^Might this be because Caithe compares Scarlet (or Ceara back then) to herself? It can be ignorance and/or arrogance from Caithe, but maybe Caithe knows something (or someone) that made Ceara look insignificant.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Caithe is the only NPC in the entire game who is unimpressed in some fashion by Scarlet.

Two npcs. Canach didn’t care for her much either. Though, judging by his dialogue, she probably bruised his ego in some way.

Erukk.1408:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Caithe is the only NPC in the entire game who is unimpressed in some fashion by Scarlet.

Two npcs. Canach didn’t care for her much either. Though, judging by his dialogue, she probably bruised his ego in some way.

That Asura at Queens jubilee didn’t seem impressed with her either, he flat out discredited her college graduations when you asked his opinion on her.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Caithe is the only NPC in the entire game who is unimpressed in some fashion by Scarlet.

Probably because Caithe is annoyed at being displaced as this game’s biggest Mary Sue.

Nike.2631:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Caithe is the only NPC in the entire game who is unimpressed in some fashion by Scarlet.

Probably because Caithe is annoyed at being displaced as this game’s biggest Mary Sue.

What are you talking about? Mary Sues are unreasonably liked. Caithe is unreasonably disliked.

By players, maybe. Somehow she ends up being the voice of reason in the teenage angst festival that is her guild . Or maybe its just the gushing even other Sylvari do about her (“Have you ever been hunting with Caithe?”) piled on top of the general fawning heaped on Sylvari by NPCs the world over .

Nike.2631:

By players, maybe. Somehow she ends up being the voice of reason in the teenage angst festival that is her guild . Or maybe its just the gushing even other Sylvari do about her (“Have you ever been hunting with Caithe?”) piled on top of the general fawning heaped on Sylvari by NPCs the world over .

Her guild distrusts her. The people that associate with her guild distrust her. Just about every non-sylvari NPC we see her contact distrusts her. The only praise she gets is from other sylvari, and it’s just the praise the sylvari give to all of their firstborn.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I was discussing that quote with Konig earlier (in game), and he supposed it’s just Scarlet’s ego. However, to me it does seem like the quote hints at Scarlet seeing herself as a force for a greater good. Of course, we don’t know the context of the quote.

Remember who else said that the world needs him and that he will save humanity? That’s right our dear first major boss, the Lich-Vizier Khilbron. Sadly with the current writer staff i doubt that it would be as cool of a setup and she is probably either gonna run away, be imprisoned or converted into a member of DE 2.0 as Ceara.

Nike.2631:

Or maybe its just the gushing even other Sylvari do about her (“Have you ever been hunting with Caithe?”) piled on top of the general fawning heaped on Sylvari by NPCs the world over .

This is a problem with all of Destiny’s Edge. You can’t walk 5 feet without some random npc commenting on how great one of the members of Destiny’s Edge is. Oh, I sure would like to join Rytlocks warband. I wish I was more like Logan Thackery! Eir Stegalkin is the greatest hunter ever!

Writers take note: Show, don’t tell!

Aaron Ansari.1604:

Her guild distrusts her. The people that associate with her guild distrust her. Just about every non-sylvari NPC we see her contact distrusts her. The only praise she gets is from other sylvari, and it’s just the praise the sylvari give to all of their firstborn.

Put it in context – most members of Destiny’s Edge start their conversations with “I should kill you/I wish you were dead”. The so-called ‘distrust’ she so-called ‘labors under’ doesn’t stop her from being the most influential and persuasive member of the group in the eyes of all the others and rather than being a handicap is there mostly to give her the chance to be oh-so-much more understanding and patient with the others, because “if only the others would see the big picture (like me) instead of being tied up in their petty squabbles… BLAH BLAH BLAH.” Yes, Caithe. We know. The writers have a huge crush on your entire species. Plant-elves are the new elves. ((sigh))

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Writers take note: Show, don’t tell!

This. This x 10.
I feel like they’ve somehow managed to fail at the very basics of writing and it’s simply spiraled off into oblivion.

@Nike. The Sylvari are superior to the other races in every single other way – so, the preferential treatment they deserve is entirely earned. Sincerely your plant-based overlords.

Maybe Scarlet believes that disrupting the ley lines at this point will disrupt the dream and free her people.

This may also be exactly whatever is possessing her wants. While Scarlet believes she is freeing her people, she may in fact be sending them to their doom.

The way I see ley lines is like rivers, they flow beneath the ground. On the intersections, the magic is obviously the strongest. When Scarlet reaches the ley line intersection with her drill, the flow of these rivers will stop and she will probably tap the power from the intersection. In other parts of the world, the amount of magic will drop as a consequence, with maybe some results, maybe not. She will use her collected energy to do something, like awaken a dragon as mentioned before, which will likely kick off the season two.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This. This x 10.
I feel like they’ve somehow managed to fail at the very basics of writing and it’s simply spiraled off into oblivion.

I agree, although I can see that they are trying to improve. It’s not all bad. The problem is, that you need very little writing to make a character likable, but it takes only a little in the wrong direction, to make players hate a character.

For example, in GW1 we originally spent very little time with Gwen. But for some reason, just by having her follow you around in Presear, and finding her flute and cape, people really were drawn to this character.

But then take someone like Logan Thackery, a character that is deeply woven into the personal story, and is mentioned in dozens of towns, and people tend to really despise this character. He’s just so flat, and one-note.

It’s not difficult to write fun characters. All you need to do, is make them a bit flawed, and let them do something. Had Logan been a complete drunk, and a failed washed up has-been, he would have been a far more likable character. Have some npc’s refer to him negatively in towns (instead of positively), and then allow the character to have an arc, where he rises to become a hero again. Don’t have him start off as the commanding officer of the Seraph, but have him climb to the top.

If they needed to have some character be the commanding officer of the Seraph, have it be someone else, someone intentionally unlikeable. Not the pet favorite Mary-Sue from the novels, but some delightfully slimy weasel. Done.

Blurk.6231:

The way I see ley lines is like rivers, they flow beneath the ground. On the intersections, the magic is obviously the strongest. When Scarlet reaches the ley line intersection with her drill, the flow of these rivers will stop and she will probably tap the power from the intersection. In other parts of the world, the amount of magic will drop as a consequence, with maybe some results, maybe not. She will use her collected energy to do something, like awaken a dragon as mentioned before, which will likely kick off the season two.

So what you’re saying is this is 600 A.D. and Scarlet is Magus instead of the Joker. I can get behind this.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

It’s not difficult to write fun characters. All you need to do, is make them a bit flawed, and let them do something. Had Logan been a complete drunk, and a failed washed up has-been, he would have been a far more likable character. Have some npc’s refer to him negatively in towns (instead of positively), and then allow the character to have an arc, where he rises to become a hero again. Don’t have him start off as the commanding officer of the Seraph, but have him climb to the top.

If they needed to have some character be the commanding officer of the Seraph, have it be someone else, someone intentionally unlikeable. Not the pet favorite Mary-Sue from the novels, but some delightfully slimy weasel. Done.

Your ‘a bit flawed’ turned into ‘one huge gaping collection of flaws waiting for redemption.’ And its not that Logan isn’t flawed to begin with, given his serious attachment issues.

I think the problem lies in showing, not telling, and not being so hilariously obvious when they do show.

Could the new back piece be a play on the feathers of the Mursaat?

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

FlamingFoxx.1305:

This. This x 10.
I feel like they’ve somehow managed to fail at the very basics of writing and it’s simply spiraled off into oblivion.

I agree, although I can see that they are trying to improve. It’s not all bad. The problem is, that you need very little writing to make a character likable, but it takes only a little in the wrong direction, to make players hate a character.

For example, in GW1 we originally spent very little time with Gwen. But for some reason, just by having her follow you around in Presear, and finding her flute and cape, people really were drawn to this character.

But then take someone like Logan Thackery, a character that is deeply woven into the personal story, and is mentioned in dozens of towns, and people tend to really despise this character. He’s just so flat, and one-note.

It’s not difficult to write fun characters. All you need to do, is make them a bit flawed, and let them do something. Had Logan been a complete drunk, and a failed washed up has-been, he would have been a far more likable character. Have some npc’s refer to him negatively in towns (instead of positively), and then allow the character to have an arc, where he rises to become a hero again. Don’t have him start off as the commanding officer of the Seraph, but have him climb to the top.

If they needed to have some character be the commanding officer of the Seraph, have it be someone else, someone intentionally unlikeable. Not the pet favorite Mary-Sue from the novels, but some delightfully slimy weasel. Done.

But there are people who dislike Logan… A LOT of people because he’s a backstabbing kitten who betrayed his friends and allowed Kralk to survive because he had to kitten out and go somewhere he wasn’t truly needed…

Granted the NPCs that dislike logan for that reason aren’t humans… but that’s because Logan went and saved Humans and has always been The Knight in Shining Armor for Kryta, so why would Kryta dislike him? They wouldn’t for the most part…

However, you also get the whole “kitten the Seraph!” npcs who i’d imagine hate Logan just as much, if not more than, the other Seraph. Granted most of these ones are seen in the Human PS, and then a few NPCs will make negative comments about the seraph and ministry guard, but those aren’t very common (especially on the former) but that’s for obvious reasons…

Volstag.6371:

Could the new back piece be a play on the feathers of the Mursaat?

Incredibly unlikely. The “feathers” of the mursaat span in a full 360 directions, while these are closer to traditional wings.

Volstag.6371:

Could the new back piece be a play on the feathers of the Mursaat?

It’s more like a Queen of Blades reference from Starcraft. The backpiece reminds me of Kerrigan.

Oh god… Is this whole disrupt the leylines exercise of Scarlet’s the ol’ “But if I destroy all magic, the Elder Dragons will starve and die! (and then you’ll all love me)” strategy?

Brought to you by an Engineer, naturally…

Oh great a marionette with a jetpack and a big giant hammer…

wellt he jetpack makes sense. Now it does not need the silly chains… wait… now it is just so silly that it is awesome? i do not know… it is a bit out of left field again, so i am confused and can`t decide what my emotions are supposed to be…

However i have another idea…

What if Scarlet is trying to release some Leylines?
What if she realized the magic being consumed to fast by the dragons and that she is now letting new magic energy into the world, so all can still use their powers like they are used to…

You know, allowing us to keep our magic.
Furthermore she build a lot of technological marvel, which with some tinkering, could work without magic… though that is a long shot, i have to admit…

I think unleashing magic into the open world would just draw the Elder Dragons’ attention, and result in its devourment being faster rather than slower.

The ley lines isn’t “new” magic btw, it’s still part of the world, just apparently deep underground.

I really do not think that Scarlet’s going to turn out to be some misunderstood/misunderstanding good guy like so many are wanting (and gods know why, that’d mean she’d be kept around!).

Unless she becomes a martyr.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I think unleashing magic into the open world would just draw the Elder Dragons’ attention, and result in its devourment being faster rather than slower.

The ley lines isn’t “new” magic btw, it’s still part of the world, just apparently deep underground.

I really do not think that Scarlet’s going to turn out to be some misunderstood/misunderstanding good guy like so many are wanting (and gods know why, that’d mean she’d be kept around!).

Oh, i do not want her around at all.
She did not make a good impression on me at all, so i cannot see her as a good character.
Caera maybe.. but thats it.

No, i was just implying that she noticed the decline in magic energy through the dragons, something we only find out through the PS.
Then her plan to “refill” our stocks is just to drill for another source. Basicly what we do with oil around the world (insert here enviromental message/oldschool FF7 reference)

She believes what she does is good, but maybe it is just something (the voice) in her head, that drives her to this insane means to an end.
Maybe it is even “his” plan"…

Again, it is all her own wrong doing and deserves every punishment she will get.

DarcShriek.5829:

Unless she becomes a martyr.

“Martyr is just another word for ‘my enemies die’.”

Here’s my final theory and i’m not going to put in spoiler tags, since it’s just my theory.

Scarlett has refined her weapon with Mari, however, it won’t be a puppet this time, but a machine she will command. This machine is built to destroy whatever it is she is unearthing, be it a dragon or dhumm or w/e. I also think she will fail in this mission, which will close the book on her, giving us the chance to retake the city.

Well, the machine part looks right. Seeing the image they have of the giant robotic creation that we’re gonna have to fight makes me pretty certain of that. As to what it’s fighting, well… That’s just speculation.

Legendary Steam Droidgon

A-net, now that I said it, you have to do it, the Grand High Sovereign commands it.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I think unleashing magic into the open world would just draw the Elder Dragons’ attention, and result in its devourment being faster rather than slower.

I was too under the weather to properly theorycraft answers for you yesterday, but…

“Caithe, someday you’ll see, Tyria needs me.”

“Are you afraid of dragons? You will be.” (or something like that?)

“But I reject that call. I reject the notion that that I must choose the Dream or be lost to Nightmare. The forces that push us this way or that can be redirected. They can be set against one another to the detriment of both, and now I know how.”

“I have a great deal of work ahead of me. I don’t know what the world will be when I’m through, but I will very much enjoy finding out. Empires will fall, continents will burn, and when the conflagration is over, I’ll be there to put my stamp on whatever new world this one becomes.”

A giant dragon on the ceiling over her lair. One of her scribbles resembles the eye of Primordius from GW1. Another shows two rows of what look like giant teeth. Thumpers placed all across Tyria just so she can find the right junction of ley lines to re-do Thaumanova in the way she sees fit.

(And let’s throw in the console screen of what could be Jormag’s hideout in the northern Shiverpeaks.)

Brimwald.5894:

(…)The main hole in my theory is that the Krait and the Leviathan fit so much better with Bubbles than Mordramoth.

There’s only 1 big thing we know of that lives underground.

Worms. Big, giant, freaking worms.

Oh, and dredge also.

Destroyers too…

Not really relevant, but DarcShriek, when was the last time you saw a giant dredge? (Not counting Molten bosses who are big but not big enough)

FlamingFoxx.1305:

Not really relevant, but DarcShriek, when was the last time you saw a giant dredge? (Not counting Molten bosses who are big but not big enough)

As an individual I can’t think of any giant dredge. However, the tunnels in which they live are quite large, and there are multitudes of dredge there. The large drill that Scarlet has designed would be perfect for invading such a location.

However I don’t think she’s attacking the dredge, I was just stating that they are down there coincidentally.