Guild Wars 2

……That is when the Asura take over their rightful place as leaders of this world. The humans are greedy and self serving, the Charr are prideful and single minded, the silvari are…a side dish, the Norn play games, get drunk and fight each other.

When is the storline going to show the bright, true genius of the Asurans? To win this world we need only throw shiny baubles to the humans to satiate them, give kegs of beer and a few dice to the Norn to quiet them, create a more extensive cook book to take care of the silvari, and the Charr? We need only take a prized possesion from one faction and place it in another factions area and the vicious infighting will take care of itself.

And we Asurans, we sit back and wait……“cuddly pets indeed”

How about…
Killing Zojja, invent steam creature army, obliterate dragons, take over the world, all by myself?

And then you all accidentally kill yourselves in a lab explosion.

With the exception of Snaff, Asura are fare the most prideful of the races. Asura running the world would be the equivalent of having Vogons running the show, a world buried in bureaucracy and classicism.

You should play the asura, if you want to see asuran supremacy.

The Arcane Council is already working for asura supremacy. The level 20-30 asura storyline shows then explicitly. Even to the point where they’re censoring knowledge on the Elder Dragons consuming magic so that the asura can come out on top (somehow…).

And then there’s the Inquest, who’s goals are more or less the same thing except not all asura but just themselves.

The Arcane Council will probably be expanded upon in future content – directly or indirectly.

Us cute fury balls of destruction will take over all of you! Muaaaaahhahahhahaah

Hmmmm, I had always thought of the Arcane Council as a bunch of asura that got pushed into the political arena that are always looking for ways to get out of it by placing their mantle on someone else. This coming from Edge of Destiny. Of course, I only got my Asura through the lvl 20 storyline in the Beta’s, obviously, and so I haven’t had a chance to pick back up from there yet. I find that quite curious.

It seems to be a one-of-two-scenarios situation. Either they want to get out of the council so they can get back to their own experiments, or they’re power grubby asura who will willingly and actively plot and use just about whatever means necessary to obtain more power.

This is why the Arcane Council openly accepts the Inquest, and actively suppress movements that would harm their (the council and Inquest’s) advancements. This is mostly Flax’s actions, by the looks of things, but not solely Flax.

To get the best out of the Arcane Council’s darker side, go any college’s first mission (the contest – Dynamics and Synergetics shows it more), VAL-A Golem, and up to lvl 30 (any order choices). From my experiences – I haven’t done the weather converter storyline, though.

I think there’s an element that the Arcane Council has essentially two kinds of positions. There’s the positions with real power, and those asura that actually want to be in government compete for those positions.

And then there’s the positions that nobody wants, but someone has to do. From memory, for instance, the position that Snaff deflected onto a rival was basically being put in charge of waste disposal.

No, it was pest removal, but yeah I catch your drift. Although for some reason I got a similar feeling from GW1 to, though I have no clue why.

I think someone should play through the Unidentified Fractal

And then you all came to your senses and realized that the charr have you outgunned in every way conceivable.

Able and willing to work together on a large scale? Check. Asurans are too busy squabbling about who gets credit.
Physically more dominating? Check. Asurans are puny.
Technologically superior? Check. Asurans have golems, Charr have large tanks, airships (talk to the pilot of captain skyfire’s ship. All the airships are Charr designed and built. Those shield guns? Charr. Mortar cannons? Charr. Glitterguns? Probably charr. The only asuran thing on the ship was the laser that needed to be charged for ages, and got taken out like it was made of tissue paper.), and guns, oh so many guns. Flamethrowers too, oh and I guess mortars, and those motorcycle things. If it’s a warmachine, the charr have it.
subterfuge? There’s a gorram Ash legion dedicated to it. What do asurans have in the way of subterfuge or even diplomacy besides an arcane council whose very purpose is “we think we’re so much better than you and we’re going to try and prove it”

Frankly once the flame legion is either eradicated, or finally gets a tribune with half an inkling of sense the charr will actually be unstoppable.

Zenyatoo.4059:

Frankly once the flame legion is either eradicated, or finally gets a tribune with half an inkling of sense the charr will actually be unstoppable.

All the charr really need is a flame legion that values magic without diety worship and a farar who posseses the claw. Then they would be unstoppable.

The humans are still the only ones with money.

You know what really makes my day?
When I get to jump clean over an Asura. Those big headed gnomes will be destroyed by their own intelligence.

They’ll start a fight they can’t end, or they’ll create something that they can’t control. The race is big headed and believe that they are far superior to all other races with no real leg to stand on.

Humans, are the oldest and most well rounded race. I can imagine a alliance between the Norn and Humans would spell the end for the brash Charr and the Asuran upstarts.

For the Charr lovers of war? Being so physically superior did not seem to help speed up the ages it took you to retake Ascalon.

I can also see the Sylvari going to war over someone chopping down a tree somewhere. I’m not sure the part those glorified pot plants have to play, but of all the races, their’s is the one to watch.

The norn are very idividualistic I couldn’t ever see them joinig in a unified way with another race.

Charr also appear to be the fastest race to reproduce of the playable races. They are also fighting on many fronts (Flame legion, Ascolonian ghosts, branded creatures, Ogres and humans-[rebels], possibly the grawl too I dont know about this one though)

But what about the skritt they already have one large city, what are the limits to their hive mind intellegence?

The human’s may be well rounded in many ways but it appears they are not unified either, bandits(white mantle), rebels, centaurs that were close to breaching divinities reach, humans have too entrenched already to start another war.

Zenyatoo.4059:

Technologically superior? Check. Asurans have golems, Charr have large tanks, airships (talk to the pilot of captain skyfire’s ship. All the airships are Charr designed and built. Those shield guns? Charr. Mortar cannons? Charr. Glitterguns? Probably charr. The only asuran thing on the ship was the laser that needed to be charged for ages, and got taken out like it was made of tissue paper.), and guns, oh so many guns. Flamethrowers too, oh and I guess mortars, and those motorcycle things. If it’s a warmachine, the charr have it.

The charr might say that, but according to Trahearne the airships are a combination of charr, human, and asura contributions. You can talk to an NPC in the Fort Trinity submarine pen that says that the submarines were based on a charr prototype (the Iron Barracuda) but took contributions from all races to really perfect them. I haven’t seen it myself, but I’m told there’s somewhere where you get a similar description of the Pact choppers.

I suspect it’s a common thread with the stuff we see being used by the Pact. A lot of it is based on charr work, but making them into viable war machines required collaboration.

Regarding story mode Arah, I’m pretty sure the shields on the turrets were actually asura work, and the purple beams in the cutscene were probably also asura. The glitterguns look like they might have been related to Ghostbore technology and thus likely charr, but like the submarines may have been improved on from the original design.

More violets, less violence! If the rest of the races could just still for a minute the Sylvari could finish taking control of their dreams.

Guys, in one fractal (they show the future or the past) we allready see a postapocalyptic Rata Sum, where onyl 1 Asura is alive (he is crazy and says everyone is gone, so asuran allready killed everyone and finaly themselfes. With other words: whether you pick an Asura or not, the end is the same: everyone and everything is dead because of the Asura

let’s hope that was just someone’s nightmare being projected

Psientist.6437:

let’s hope that was just someone’s nightmare being projected

:D lets be serious: the worls is going to end at a certain time. And who do you think will be the causer? I mean, letting Asuras doing their “experiments” is actualy enough to destroy tyria. Even in the Asuran personal storyquests (Snaff Prize) you get to here things like “Behold: teleportation without a receiver! And note that my assistant is completely intact!” I just love Asuras, but if you just thing about it: its weird that tyria isn’t doomed allready.

Well, at least in an alternate universe my Asuran Necromancer has conquered the world with his steam creature army. And alsmost suceeded in taking over this one, too. Very cool personal story line
btw: Even the race selection screen during character creation says that sooner or later everyone will bow to the Asura.

pod people Sylvari are found everywhere, just waiting for Order 66 to be dropped in their collective dream for synchronized attack.

Besides, various NPC dialogues have shown Sylvari have driven most folks, including Asurans, to near insanity with their incessant queries. I have this feeling that poor guy at Uncategorized Fractal has been overwhelmed with flora curiosity that 4 golems are not enough to quell his loneliness.

Wiki states Sylvari have pollen shakes off them as they walk everywhere, setting the world for ‘The Happening’?

loneknight.8425:

pod people Sylvari are found everywhere, just waiting for Order 66 to be dropped in their collective dream for synchronized attack.

Besides, various NPC dialogues have shown Sylvari have driven most folks, including Asurans, to near insanity with their incessant queries. I have this feeling that poor guy at Uncategorized Fractal has been overwhelmed with flora curiosity that 4 golems are not enough to quell his loneliness.

Wiki states Sylvari have pollen shakes off them as they walk everywhere, setting the world for ‘The Happening’?

I never saw the bit about pollen I will go check that out. Raise the potential of Sylvari fruit! On a more serious note have there been any reports of annaphallactic shock?

hate to admit… but Asura have Tixx… no need to discuss this any further I think…
(unless Grenth and the Mad King team up to dismantle that little idiot…)

I don’t care how the future goes, so long as Zojja still lives.
Felicia Day’s voice should not die. :p

Whoever was that said char would easily beat asura(sorry bad with quoting otherwise I would) you forgot one HUGE text advantage the asura have which is the fact they build and control all the gates, teleportation is a very very powerful weapon! Especially with one being right inside the black citadel

The charr have their asuran gate rigged with explosives because the asura are a bit too friendly with humanity…

Recycle.5493:

How about…
Killing Zojja, invent steam creature army, obliterate dragons, take over the world, all by myself?

I can only condone that if by myself you mean me

As leader of a nature guild i will tell you what the future holds, all will fall to Nature this will be brought faster with the return of the forest dragon. squable over which race will rule but nature has ways of clearing the house. and as lone gate already stated the sylvari are all ready pollinating the world for the forest dragon’s return already there population exploding. so enjoy your technology while you still have it becuase ive seen the future of tyria and its very green and wild. All hail the forest dragon Muhuwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Muhuwahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Muhuwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Even to the point where they’re censoring knowledge on the Elder Dragons consuming magic so that the asura can come out on top (somehow…).

Wait, what? Is there some place to find out more about this without going through and actually playing an Asura (though I intend to do that eventually…)?

I honesty think the Sylvari pose a larger threat than the Asura. Despite their arrogance,The Asura can barely control their own machines, and they would never be able to keep them running right long enough to conquer the world. Meanwhile, the Sylvari are being produced by the Pale Tree and taking over positions of power at a scary rate (it’s only been 25 years, but they’re already one of Tyria’s most powerful and populous races). If the Pale Tree ever stops being so peaceful, we could have Tyria’s greatest war yet on our hands.

I actually have to agree with the Sylvari being a very real threat. Charr are my favorite race, but the Sylvari could easily outnumber any other species over the next few years. Not to mention the Sylvari can create turrets instantly out of the ground, something the Asura and Charr have to build with valuable resources.

Just how fast the Pale Tree is capable of producing sylvari, who knows. The first ‘crop’ was only twelve members, and it’s been steadily increasing since then, but hopefully the Tree knows when to dial it back.

And, of course, if the sylvari ever do turn hostile, the Pale Tree is their major weak point. It’s the focal point for both the Dream and making new sylvari, new sylvan, new everything. The sylvari cannot breed on their own.

As for turrets, Donut, I think that’s just a game mechanic, the way a charr can wave his hands and in a puff of smoke, a new building appears. They likely have to grow turrets using special speeds and wait for them to actually finish growing before they can be used. And then they would have the weaknesses of plants – needing food, sunlight, being rooted down, and such.

during one sylvari quest you have to hold Risen back while some chick prepares the turret seeds. that’s one of the two ways you get plant turrets in the game, the other being Take Root

the Pale Tree blossoms in waves and each new wave is clearly not as limited in numbers as the Firstborn were. new Sylvari (humanoid or canine) seem to be created constantly, though learning the exact rate would be nice

I’m pretty sure that Fractal of the Mist “episode” with the Raving Asura tells a story about a different future for you hamsters.

Oglaf.1074:

I’m pretty sure that Fractal of the Mist “episode” with the Raving Asura tells a story about a different future for you hamsters.

Not necessarily different, just a possible future. Something like that Fractal could very well happen, but it probably won’t. Everything is there for it to be a possibility.

Look into your black little hearts; search your feelings. You know this to be true.

We’ve already seen at least two possible futures for the asura. One where the player takes over the entire world using steam-creatures, and another where they apparently blow themselves (and the world?) up.

So they aren’t exactly batting a hundred in terms of good futures.

Oglaf.1074:

Look into your black little hearts; search your feelings. You know this to be true.

… so no GW3?

I like to think that the only thing keeping Asura from taking over the world is themselves.

I mean come on, The Inquest has a seat on the Arcane Council, right? They’re like a legally sanctioned criminal superpower.