Titan troubles (GW1 Spoilers)

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Posted by: Switcha.4713

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So i was reading vast amounts of the lore and i’m a bit confused.
Titans blow up ascalon’s big wall -> charr invade -> people evacuate to kryta -> heroes come from kryta’s ascolonian settlement -> heroes kill unseen ones and accidentally free the titans -> titans rampage around the world -> charr find titans and worship them as gods -> char use titans to destroy ascolon wall -> ascolonians have to evacuate to kryta… wait what?
Is it just me or did the lore loop? What did i miss?

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

Charr found Titans before the humans released them. Somehow Titans were able to get into the world at Hrangmer (sp?) where the Flame Legion adopted them as gods. Later at the end the humans released more titans (which in later quests we “cleaned up”). Eventually we went into the Realm of Torment and destroyed the being that was creating Titans and emptied the foundry of it’s inhabitants

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

Gandarel.5091

The five human gods outcasted and defeated the sixth one, Abaddon, the god of secrets, and imprisoned him in his own domain -> one thousand years later, Charrs were searching for a god to worship, because they tought that’s why the humans defeated them, the Charrs lacked a god -> Abaddon sent the titans to the Charr -> charr began to worship them, then invade Ascalon with the power granted by them -> Adelbern took a defensive stand and reformed south Ascalon, while Rurik, after giving up his offenses, lead refugees to Kryta -> He was killed by the leader of the Stone Summit dwarves along the way -> Refugees established Ascalon settlement in Kryta -> Later the Ascaloian heroes stop the titans -> In another campaign, Guild wars: nightfall, we spanked Abaddon and his followers in his own realm, but when Abaddon was defeated, his powers was to go unleashed, destroying Tyria, but Kormir, the Sunspear leader, was given the power by the other five gods to absorb that power, becoming a new god, taking Abaddon’s place, and becoming a 6th god, worshipped ever since. She took his power, his knowledge, but not his purposes and will.

Hope this summed up things

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Posted by: Swizzle.7982

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It was never really explained what the Titans were doing in Hrangmer, if they escaped, or if they’d been hiding there since Abaddon was sealed away.

It was also never established what happened to all the Titans that the Charr found, or how many they found (Ignis Cruor was likely one of them, who was killed in the realm of torment). We know that the Charr stopped worshipping them and that most Titans were killed, but as we never went to Hrangmer in GW1 there’s always the possibility that some might still be there, even up to the present in GW2.

Maybe the flame legion keep there ex-gods as pets, who knows…

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

So i was reading vast amounts of the lore and i’m a bit confused.
Titans blow up ascalon’s big wall -> charr invade -> people evacuate to kryta -> heroes come from kryta’s ascolonian settlement -> heroes kill unseen ones and accidentally free the titans -> titans rampage around the world -> charr find titans and worship them as gods -> char use titans to destroy ascolon wall -> ascolonians have to evacuate to kryta… wait what?
Is it just me or did the lore loop? What did i miss?

The charr discovered titans 200 years prior to the Searing, where they were given the Cauldron of Cataclysm by said titans – which seems to have been copied into many cauldrons. 200 years later, the charr, not the titans, blow up Ascalon’s big wall in The Searing.

Then as you said, until “titans rampage around the world” (just continental Tyria). That’s followed by the Ascalonians killing the titans in front of the charr, and the titans are no longer viewed as gods by the charr.

It was never really explained what the Titans were doing in Hrangmer, if they escaped, or if they’d been hiding there since Abaddon was sealed away.

It was also never established what happened to all the Titans that the Charr found, or how many they found (Ignis Cruor was likely one of them, who was killed in the realm of torment). We know that the Charr stopped worshipping them and that most Titans were killed, but as we never went to Hrangmer in GW1 there’s always the possibility that some might still be there, even up to the present in GW2.

Maybe the flame legion keep there ex-gods as pets, who knows…

200 years prior to GW1, Odran created portals to the Mists. A few years later, the charr find the titans in Hrangmer, and Shiro is confronted by the Demonic Fortune Teller. I suspect that some agents of Abaddon escaped via Odran’s portals.

All the titans the charr found 200 years seem to have disappeared – I suspect that it was just one titan, Saevio Proelium, who was captured by the Order of Whispers 100 years prior to Nightfall (aka 100 years after the charr found a titan(s)). Those from the Titan quests were all killed, except one, which was killed in Eye of the North.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Swizzle.7982

Swizzle.7982

All the titans the charr found 200 years seem to have disappeared – I suspect that it was just one titan, Saevio Proelium, who was captured by the Order of Whispers

Saevio Proelium could have been one, though that’s never hinted at. It’s also stated the the Charr discovered gods (plural) in Hrangmer. The flickering flame quest in the realm of torment strongly suggests that Ignis Cruor was one of the titans the charr found:

Scorch Emberspire: “The Charr have always found strength in the flames. When the Titans appeared before our people in a towering inferno, we knew that surely these must be our gods.
Through our gods our people found a purpose, one that bound us together and drove us onto a path of conquest. Following signs from the gods, we cut a swath of destruction into the lands of men. Victory was our birthright. Fire and steel became the hands with which we would grasp it.
Always toward Arah, where the gods once lived. All that awaited us there was death. What sort of god would lead its people to destruction? To think that I would ever be graced by the presence of a god….
I have come all this way to prove my faith. We have done all that you have asked, and yet I still find myself in this purgatory. How have we failed you?”

Ignis Cruor: “Impudent creature… I have no further use for you. Your presence offends my sense. Begone!”

The follow up quest has you kill two more titans, Securis Phasmatis and Letum Contineo, those may also have been the original titans found by the Charr.

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Posted by: DelayTheDecay.2675

DelayTheDecay.2675

Just one thing I wanted to add: the Searing Cauldron was not actually from the Titans. The Titans merely told the Charr about it, and told them to use it. The Searing Cauldrons (plural) are powerful, ancient relics, like Magdaer, Sohothin, and the Lost Scrolls, possibly older than the Human Gods.

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Posted by: Gandarel.5091

Gandarel.5091

Just one thing I wanted to add: the Searing Cauldron was not actually from the Titans. The Titans merely told the Charr about it, and told them to use it. The Searing Cauldrons (plural) are powerful, ancient relics, like Magdaer, Sohothin, and the Lost Scrolls, possibly older than the Human Gods.

Magdaer and Sohothin are Orrian swords, predating the exodus, but not the gods.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Just one thing I wanted to add: the Searing Cauldron was not actually from the Titans. The Titans merely told the Charr about it, and told them to use it. The Searing Cauldrons (plural) are powerful, ancient relics, like Magdaer, Sohothin, and the Lost Scrolls, possibly older than the Human Gods.

Not quite so. We hold no knowledge of the origin of the Searing Cauldrons. Nothing even implies the objects themselves are ancient in any way shape or form – just the magic contained within.

However, we know that the Titans gave the charr at least one cauldron called the Cauldron of Cataclysm . We also learn that the Flame Legion enchanted their Searing Cauldron*s* with powerful magic . And finally, we know that the Searing magic holds similarities with the Branded (Searing Effigy and the two new “mini-searings” all use purple crystals and flames, the flame animation used by Branded creatures too, though the crystal models are not shared – though it is shared as a recolored version of Reflection Crystals; lastly, the line about the magic of the cauldrons implies Elder Dragon – “It is said the Cauldron’s magic was older than the Charr, older even than recorded history, and forged by ancient entities fallen into sleep and quiescence. " – but only the magic).

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.