Guild Wars 2

Now I’ve been wondering about what ANET plan to do with Traeharne. What I think would be a cool twist is that he joins Mordremoth and leads an army of Slyavir against you in HOT. It leads to a massive fight were at the end of it you stomp Traeharne. What do you guys think?

While I’d love to make a chopped salad, I doubt it’d happen. The Pale Tree/Dream helps protect sylvari from corruption, and as a firstborn, Trahearne would probably get extra protection from mama.

After all the hate he’s gotten from the Personal Story, having us kill him off seems too… fanservice. My best bet is on him dying to mordrem offscreen, but if that doesn’t happen I suspect he’ll make it through more or less intact. It all comes down to whether they’ve decided to integrate him into the story arch after his conspicuous absence in the Living World.

It’d only be a twist if 98% of the player base hasn’t said that they wanted it to happen.

That’s why the ‘sylvari are dragon minion’ reveal was no plot twist, nor any form of fancy reveal, like they proclaimed.

Honestly, all the Trahearne hate is undeserved. His only issue was that he was a bit bipolar (but so were a lot of NPCs throughout the personal story and dungeon story modes – hello Logan of Caudecus Manor and Eir) and that his voice acting was flat. There was no other issue with him or his character – despite claims of things like ‘he stole the spotlight’…. well, he didn’t, at all. And that flat voice acting seems to have been rectified with the Personal Story rework, and as we saw in Season 2 his voice acting then was much improved.

My hope if we end up having to fight Trahearne is that Anet goes trolling on the haters. Trahearne is corrupted, but we force him to undergo a ritual like Glint did in order to free him of that corruption, saving our dear Pact Marshal’s life.

I disagree on the part about him stealing the focus of the plot, but that has been discussed waaay too often in waaay too many places already.

I believe the writing team may have an opportunity here to correct something, while at the same time providing the fans with some sort of… present, in regards to the cries of “Death to Traeherne”. What if the Pact Marshall were to die while… sacrificing his life to save ours?

If done properly, he would still be dead (nice), and also give us a meaningful sacrifice. Sieran’s, Forgal’s and Tybalt’s, while the latter was emotional, did not really make an impression (at least on me), because their sacrifice was in vain. Claw Island was still taken, and… I’m pretty sure our mentor would also have been able to flee with us.

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Sieran’s, Forgal’s and Tybalt’s, while the latter was emotional, did not really make an impression (at least on me), because their sacrifice was in vain. Claw Island was still taken, and… I’m pretty sure our mentor would also have been able to flee with us.

This is a tangent away from the main topic, for which I apologize, but I just did that again today. In between almost having to reload the instance because Blightghast can permafear now and wondering why Trahearne treated a blinded soldier by bandaging her head to toe, I got to refresh myself on the scene. The premise makes sense. There’s already undead on the docks, and there’s a need to keep the massive hoard from surrounding and overwhelming you for long enough to lead battered survivors to slice through the obstacle. It wasn’t just a matter of making a sprint for it. The explanation’s still not airtight (why wouldn’t the dragon fly over to sink us?) and not every mentor is as well suited to the task as the others, but the sacrifice isn’t as unnecessary as I and many others have built it up to be in our memories.

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Now I’ve been wondering about what ANET plan to do with Traeharne. What I think would be a cool twist is that he joins Mordremoth and leads an army of Slyavir against you in HOT. It leads to a massive fight were at the end of it you stomp Traeharne. What do you guys think?

my pet wolf would love a chance to eat that salad <.<
and my sylvari hound agrees.

glory stealer must die

I still don’t see how Trahearne stole the spotlight from my character. Thanks to him, I was a glorified Monster Hunter who could give orders to a whole lot of soldiers without ever having to bother myself with logistic, diplomacy or even research of new technologies or ancient lore. All I had to do was to go on a rampage in Orr and kill Zhaïtan.

I hope that Trahearne will survive HoT. In fact, I hope we will be able to purify him if he is corrupted, if only because he is probably one of the sole minds able to clearly tell us what it was to be a Dragon Minion (something which could turn to be crucial when dealing with the other dragon’s minions) and some part of Mordremoth plans/functions.

That’s doesn’t mean that other characters shouldn’t die, but their death shouldn’t come as a “reward” for a great part of the playerbase. I would prefer the murder of Kasmeer by some corrupted sylvarie over Trahearne’s being killed by the player, because it would be a shock, and would drive the player and the story in a more personal way. Kind of like when Belinda was killed. Even if I barely knew her (a shame ANet should have waited to kill her), it made the thing personal, because I love Kasmeer, Marjory and the others.

The one point where I remain upset about Trahearne is where he performs the ritual at the Cathedral of Radiance to allow players the death ritual of the Lyss priesthood and him telling the players all about it and human religion. Having a sylvari be the expert of all things Orr felt like a giant slap in the face for my human characters.

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The one point where I remain upset about Trahearne is where he performs the ritual at the Cathedral of Radiance to allow players the death ritual of the Lyss priesthood and him telling the players all about it and human religion. Having a sylvari be the expert of all things Orr felt like a giant slap in the face for my human characters.

I don’t see how it’s a slap in the face. Traeharne is an expert on Orr because he’s been studying it for 25 years.

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Genesis.8572:

The one point where I remain upset about Trahearne is where he performs the ritual at the Cathedral of Radiance to allow players the death ritual of the Lyss priesthood and him telling the players all about it and human religion. Having a sylvari be the expert of all things Orr felt like a giant slap in the face for my human characters.

I don’t see how it’s a slap in the face. Traeharne is an expert on Orr because he’s been studying it for 25 years.

The issue isn’t so much just Trahearne, as the larger perception that humans are the only race who aren’t the best as anything. It makes people who play them sensitive to places where they’d be the most natural fit and still don’t get the spot.

Fjaeldmark.9043:

I don’t see how it’s a slap in the face. Traeharne is an expert on Orr because he’s been studying it for 25 years.

And how long have humans been studying their own religious traditions? Why are we being told about this human religion from a sylvari and not a human priestess of Lyssa? Because this knowledge has been lost? Apparently not if Trahearne learned it from somewhere.

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Fjaeldmark.9043:

I don’t see how it’s a slap in the face. Traeharne is an expert on Orr because he’s been studying it for 25 years.

And how long have humans been studying their own religious traditions? Why are we being told about this human religion from a sylvari and not a human priestess of Lyssa? Because this knowledge has been lost? Apparently not if Trahearne learned it from somewhere.

Well the PC is still relatively young, so they didn’t have the time and perhaps also perhaps didn’t feel the need to study old orrian religious rituals as thouroughly as a person of any race that specialises in their studies on this culture.
Just because the Orrians and the Krytans were both humans, doesn’t mean that they have the same rituals when it comes to their burial rites…plus the rituals in that part of the story are almost 200 years old (if I remember the timeline right, I’m a bit bad at that stuff), so even if the krytans and the orrians had the same burial rituals at that time, they could have change a lot during that time.

Though I appreciate your attempts to answer my concern, I think you’re nevertheless missing my point.

i was enjoying this mission SO MUCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-IC9EJp98&feature=youtu.be

Professor Gorr is great! specially when he talks about what apprentices are for

but every time Traeharne opened his mouth, all the joy DIED.

why couldn’t Traeharne have SHUT UP and let me enjoy this.

the mission was literally ruined because he had to talk.

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i was enjoying this mission SO MUCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-IC9EJp98&feature=youtu.be

Professor Gorr is great! specially when he talks about what apprentices are for

but every time Traeharne opened his mouth, all the joy DIED.

why couldn’t Traeharne have SHUT UP and let me enjoy this.

the mission was literally ruined because he had to talk.

It was supposed to be an action scene mixed in with funny lines. Risen slaying is serious business boy. You think this is a game? You think this is all about fun? People are dying son. No just kidding. Just think of Trahearne as your older brother who’s super serious.

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arenta.2953:

i was enjoying this mission SO MUCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO-IC9EJp98&feature=youtu.be

Professor Gorr is great! specially when he talks about what apprentices are for

but every time Traeharne opened his mouth, all the joy DIED.

why couldn’t Traeharne have SHUT UP and let me enjoy this.

the mission was literally ruined because he had to talk.

It was supposed to be an action scene mixed in with funny lines. Risen slaying is serious business boy. You think this is a game? You think this is all about fun? People are dying son. No just kidding. Just think of Trahearne as your older brother who’s super serious.

sells older brother to a charr slaver as kindling