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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

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So recently I did Arah Explorable mode Path 3 and the Sylvari NPC was able to reverse the Risen affect on the chicken “Twitchy”.

Since the Sovereign Eye of Zhaitan stated that Tybalt is “under Zhaitan’s wing” (how does that work for Sieran!?), then is it possible to see Tybalt resurrected?

We know for a fact there there remains Risen after Zhaitan’s death. Their objective, we don’t know. But we do know there are risen, and that furthermore, we could resurrect them.

So, is it possible, due to popular demand and the puzzle pieces in place, that we could see Tybalt return in the next expansion?

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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exactly because of the thing with Sieran, i think it was a bluff. don’t expect him to return. i think it makes for a more memorable and impactful moment too, knowing that he’s not coming back.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

It’s possible, but since as Bruno said, the Sovereign Eye says the same for the sylvari Sieran, I doubt that he was telling the truth.

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Posted by: Mechos.5640

Mechos.5640

Well, he might not have meant in a literal sense; after all, not all of Zhaitan’s minions were corporeal. Sieran being ‘under Zhaitan’s wing’ could mean that, rather than raising her as a Risen, she was turned in to one of the Orrian Wraiths (or it could be all three of them are now ghosts/spirits).

In which case, them coming back would be amazing. Think of it like our own personal Obi-Wan.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

But sylvari are immune to all corruption – it isn’t just that they can’t become risen.

Truth be told, we don’t even know if sylvari have souls, I believe. I don’t think we see a single case where a sylvari ghost has appeared.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

Well, he might not have meant in a literal sense; after all, not all of Zhaitan’s minions were corporeal. Sieran being ‘under Zhaitan’s wing’ could mean that, rather than raising her as a Risen, she was turned in to one of the Orrian Wraiths (or it could be all three of them are now ghosts/spirits).

In which case, them coming back would be amazing. Think of it like our own personal Obi-Wan.

it’s not that sylvaris can’t turn into zombies. they’re quite literally, quite solidly stated in lore, immune to dragon corruption of any kind.

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Posted by: Mechos.5640

Mechos.5640

Well, Sieran (for all her bubblyess, one of the highest ranking scholars in the Durmand Priory, being a Magister and all) seems to believe that her spirit will go to the Mists. And, though I hate to bring it up, there is that one Sylvari commander during the Gates of Arah event that becomes an undead. Whether he’s meant to or not, it’s hard to say.

Either way, I don’t think it would be implausible to think that Sylvari could become ghosts; heck, we see that inanimate objects (trebuchets, cannons, weapons) can become spirits.

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Posted by: Garenthal.1480

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But sylvari are immune to all corruption – it isn’t just that they can’t become risen.

Truth be told, we don’t even know if sylvari have souls, I believe. I don’t think we see a single case where a sylvari ghost has appeared.

They’re not immune to all corruption, though. There’s even a Sylvari who is encountered in Orr who goes mad as a result of torment at the hands of the Risen, or more specifically an Eye of Zhaitan. They may avoid the physical side of corruption, but as we’ve seen from the Nightmare Court they’re certainly not immune to being corrupted through torture.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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But sylvari are immune to all corruption – it isn’t just that they can’t become risen.

Truth be told, we don’t even know if sylvari have souls, I believe. I don’t think we see a single case where a sylvari ghost has appeared.

i think it would be really tragic if the sylvaris couldn’t go to the mists lol. there is no lore supporting it or against it though, so it’s a dead end of speculation. they can walk into the mists while alive though, for whatever that’s worth.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

But sylvari are immune to all corruption – it isn’t just that they can’t become risen.

Truth be told, we don’t even know if sylvari have souls, I believe. I don’t think we see a single case where a sylvari ghost has appeared.

They’re not immune to all corruption, though. There’s even a Sylvari who is encountered in Orr who goes mad as a result of torment at the hands of the Risen, or more specifically an Eye of Zhaitan.

that’s not corruption, that’s PTSD, and that’s a very real thing :P

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

Well, Sieran (for all her bubblyess, one of the highest ranking scholars in the Durmand Priory, being a Magister and all) seems to believe that her spirit will go to the Mists. And, though I hate to bring it up, there is that one Sylvari commander during the Gates of Arah event that becomes an undead. Whether he’s meant to or not, it’s hard to say.

I don’t recall a Risen Sylvari even though I had done Gates of Arah many times.

Please clarify the specifics so I can see it ingame?

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Posted by: Mechos.5640

Mechos.5640

Well, Sieran (for all her bubblyess, one of the highest ranking scholars in the Durmand Priory, being a Magister and all) seems to believe that her spirit will go to the Mists. And, though I hate to bring it up, there is that one Sylvari commander during the Gates of Arah event that becomes an undead. Whether he’s meant to or not, it’s hard to say.

I don’t recall a Risen Sylvari even though I had done Gates of Arah many times.

Please clarify the specifics so I can see it ingame?

I think his name was Tactician Coehl? It was a Vigil, male Sylvari. Becomes a Champion on death.

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

Well, Sieran (for all her bubblyess, one of the highest ranking scholars in the Durmand Priory, being a Magister and all) seems to believe that her spirit will go to the Mists. And, though I hate to bring it up, there is that one Sylvari commander during the Gates of Arah event that becomes an undead. Whether he’s meant to or not, it’s hard to say.

I don’t recall a Risen Sylvari even though I had done Gates of Arah many times.

Please clarify the specifics so I can see it ingame?

I think his name was Tactician Coehl? It was a Vigil, male Sylvari. Becomes a Champion on death.

Which is the exact event name? Can we have a screen, please?

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Posted by: Mechos.5640

Mechos.5640

I’m not able to get on my main comp at present (on a laptop right now), but here is a link to the event in question on the wiki:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ensure_that_the_Pact_holds_the_Gates_of_Arah

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

And, though I hate to bring it up, there is that one Sylvari commander during the Gates of Arah event that becomes an undead. Whether he’s meant to or not, it’s hard to say.

I’ve followed through this, however I never saw a sylvari turning into an undead. There’s one sylvari there, and not a commander at that.

But it’s likely a model oversight, because it’s quite solidly stated in lore – as said already – that sylvari are immune to all corruption.

Either way, I don’t think it would be implausible to think that Sylvari could become ghosts; heck, we see that inanimate objects (trebuchets, cannons, weapons) can become spirits.

Those inanimte objects are more likely the similar situation to a ghosts’ clothing or weapons. They’re not spirits of objects, but rather ectoplasm turned into the shape of objects. Well, that’s my take on it at least, given that we don’t see a ghostly catapult going “Hey, you fleshling there! I’m gonna kill you!”

They’re not immune to all corruption, though. There’s even a Sylvari who is encountered in Orr who goes mad as a result of torment at the hands of the Risen, or more specifically an Eye of Zhaitan.

That’s not dragon corruption. That’s called having a mental breakdown. (Though I don’t know where this sylvari is).

The Nightmare Court is completely separate from dragon corruption as well.

When I said sylvari are immune to all corruption, allow me to rephrase it: all sylvari are immune to all dragon corruption.

I don’t recall a Risen Sylvari even though I had done Gates of Arah many times.

Please clarify the specifics so I can see it ingame?

During the meta event – if the Gates of Arah are lost, the allies become risen. One of which being a sylvari who’s name is retained.

Thing is, if I’m remembering the name correctly, when I went there that name was for a human, not a sylvari.

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