Was Ancient Karka the same as Bubbles?
Karka = bubbles dragon minions. equivalent to destroyers/undead.
my opnion of course.
And yes we will eventually see all the dragons… whatever they may be, but not in this first release, wait for expansions.
I’m not convinced the karka are draconic minions. Their nest and bodies don’t display obvious signs of draconic corruption (Pretty sure the mess is simply secretions)
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I got the impression they were ‘driven’ to land by the dragon and his minions.
Similarly to the Asura from the Destroyer’s, Koden/Norn in the north from Jormag, etc.
Did anyone else notice that the Karka can’t swim? They won’t chase you in the water if you jump into it!
I assumed also that all the dragon minions were just normal beings that were corrupted. Icebrood, Risen, Destroyers, Shattered – all of them appeared to just be “turned” into minions. That would discount the crab minions coming from eggs as a comparison…
Did anyone else notice that the Karka can’t swim? They won’t chase you in the water if you jump into it!
I assumed also that all the dragon minions were just normal beings that were corrupted. Icebrood, Risen, Destroyers, Shattered – all of them appeared to just be “turned” into minions. That would discount the crab minions coming from eggs as a comparison…
Destroyers are made from stone and magma so no corruption of anything asides from rocks.
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Well, not all dragons create minions from normal beings. Destroyers are created from stone and lava, no races required. It is assumed to be the same way with the DSD, but no one knows for sure about how it actually works with him.
The young Karka can swim, at least. I was personally chased by one underwater this weekend. I don’t know about the older species.
I saw an adult karka swimming while fighting the champion reef shark once. It was close to the edge of the render, but it’s legs were moving in a kind of weird way that seemed to me to be more in lines with treading water than walking.
I didn’t get closer though, as I didn’t think swimming adult karka was anything unusual, so take this as the bigfoot sighting it is.
Did anyone else notice that the Karka can’t swim? They won’t chase you in the water if you jump into it!
Young karka definitely swim, I actually found one swimming and decided to intercept it just to see if they had any unique underwater combat behaviour (Nothing special just swim about and bite me.)
I also saw an egg-layer leap out the water in front of me wayyyy into the air and land atop a 60ft tall cliff, I didn’t catch a glimpse while it was submerged, but it seemed like a scripted event more than an AI behaviour
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Strange. I found ducking into the water to be highly effective in not being mauled to death. They would stop at the lands edge and watch me, throw up their legs in frustration, and eventually turn around and run back. I couldn’t get one into the water, even when I was standing next to a mining node directly adjacent to a young karka. Maybe they are afraid of me more then the water?
As far as the destroyers are concerned; I’ve seen destroyer trolls and spiders, and I’m sure there are other beings that appeared to have been something else before being ‘converted’. What’s DSD? After reading the Destiny’s Edge novel, it seems like all the dragon minions are corrupted/fallen. Sons of Svanir and the Icebrood are corrupted by Jormag, the destroyers appear to be corrupted creatures from the mountains (trolls and spiders), and the crystalline whatevers, kralkatorrik’s minions, are all corrupted creatures according to the book and the beta-zombie-invasion-style event. The Risen are obvious.. corrupted dead things that follow Zhaitan.
Karka = bubbles dragon minions. equivalent to destroyers/undead.
my opnion of course.
Your opninion is wrong.
We’re told that they were forced out of the water depths just as krait, quaggan, and largos were.
@OP: If you heard the term “bubbles” in game, then that held no relation to the deep sea dragon – Bubbles is a fan-made game. If you heard it from the people, then you were hearing speculations. Unless it was that the DSD forced the karka out.
Well, even that’s speculation still, but highly immensely implied.
As far as the destroyers are concerned; I’ve seen destroyer trolls and spiders
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the destroyers appear to be corrupted creatures from the mountains (trolls and spiders.
Destroyers mimic life. And it would be crabs, not spiders.
There are “Destroyer Crab” “Destroyer Troll” and “Destroyer Harpy” models, but they’re not corrupted beings. They’re just made in mimicry of crabs, trolls, and harpies.
If you observe the destroyers carefully, though its harder for crabs, you can tell that they very much were never living creatures. No bones, skin, hair, etc. And Destroyer Harpies are actually hollow (you can only tell this when they die, at a certain angle). Other dragon minions always retain some fragment of their former bodies – even Icebrood Colossi, despite being giant blocks of ice, still contain the original skeletons that the creatures once were.
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with the destroyers just wanted to add that in gw1 they were called ‘destroyer of lives’ ‘destroyer of hopes’ and the like, and i reckon over time the populace named each destroyer by what creature/sentient being they looked like
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The young Karka can swim, at least. I was personally chased by one underwater this weekend. I don’t know about the older species.
When the karka attacked lion’s arch the first one cam out of the water.
Karka = bubbles dragon minions. equivalent to destroyers/undead.
my opnion of course.Your opninion is wrong.
We’re gold that they were forced out of the water depths just as krait, quaggan, and largos were.
? Source?
Your opninion is wrong.
We’re told that they were forced out of the water depths just as krait, quaggan, and largos were.
? Source?
Besides some of the lines in game which stated they have been present and are not a new threat?
There was an article by Matthew Medina which stated this, though I can’t recall where it was.
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Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
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‘Bubbles’ isn’t a race or anything. ‘Bubbles’ is a name given by fans to the DSD or the unnamed Deep Sea Dragon, nothing more.
So, let’s say the Karka aren’t Bubbles’ minions. That means they were either forced out as has been posited, or they were just doing some sort of thing that animals do (migration or somesuch). The fact of the matter is, Tyria’s response was we need to find these kitteners, and they need to DIE. We participated in mowing down their habitat and invading their nests to off an ancient karka, possibly THE ancient karka. With a name like ancient, it would probably be unreasonable to assume the thing was less than a couple centuries old, and we outright destroyed it. The priory or the asura might have objected at some point and tried to study it, but no. The lionguard opted for extinction, or as close as they could get.
“We’re safe now? Hell no! We’re gonna hunt them sumkittenes down and END them!”
Not trying to get all PETA on the thread, I’m just wondering if this dawned on anyone else yet. It’s like in the Metroid games, where the vast majority of the enemies are just plants and animals planting and animaling around.
Of course if it drops loot, Grenth wanted it to die.
The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real.
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Buy the ticket, take the ride.
It would be cool to have major enemies that aren’t related to the dragons, altough the karkas being bubble’s minions would be pretty awesome as well.
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There are loads of enemies not related to the dragons, lol!
“major”.
the whole world revolves on how the ED are kittening everything up. it would be cool to see something like “gee, that crazy kitten centaur is getting a nice big army”
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As far as the destroyers are concerned; I’ve seen destroyer trolls and spiders
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the destroyers appear to be corrupted creatures from the mountains (trolls and spiders.Destroyers mimic life. And it would be crabs, not spiders.
There are “Destroyer Crab” “Destroyer Troll” and “Destroyer Harpy” models, but they’re not corrupted beings. They’re just made in mimicry of crabs, trolls, and harpies.
If you observe the destroyers carefully, though its harder for crabs, you can tell that they very much were never living creatures. No bones, skin, hair, etc. And Destroyer Harpies are actually hollow (you can only tell this when they die, at a certain angle). Other dragon minions always retain some fragment of their former bodies – even Icebrood Colossi, despite being giant blocks of ice, still contain the original skeletons that the creatures once were.
Though it was to my understanding and agreement that destroyers only mimic life, it is notable to point out that in the crucible of eternity story, trapped test subjects are somehow able to be turned into destroyers. Granted, this may simply be due to the inquest forcing exposure to dragon energies on the subjects, so whether or not it’s an isolated case is unknown. I’d assume it is though (or simply a dev oversight) .
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I heard this from one of the Dev’s “The Karka were driven out of the sea by a much bigger and powerful force”
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Considering how freaking tough the karka are, if they were driven out by something more powerful, we’re pretty kitten’ed.
Though it was to my understanding and agreement that destroyers only mimic life, it is notable to point out that in the crucible of eternity story, trapped test subjects are somehow able to be turned into destroyers. Granted, this may simply be due to the inquest forcing exposure to dragon energies on the subjects, so whether or not it’s an isolated case is unknown. I’d assume it is though (or simply a dev oversight) .
And in that dungeon, a charr got turned into an icebrood kodan, and a human into a branded charr.
That’s not evidence for anything. It’s an oversight of randomization – any subject can turn into any set number of dragon minions, and apparently destroyer trolls got added to the mix.
Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.