What broke the cycle? Zhaitan or the Egg?

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Posted by: jhgund.5906

jhgund.5906

The cycle I’m asking about is the elder dragon cycle. So first what exactly is the cycle and how do you think Mordremoth fits into it?

The cycle is similar to hibernation. The dragon’s feed on magic, coincidentally destroying everything, then sleep releasing the stored magic into their environment. This seems to be the case for the first five dragons but I’m not convinced this is Mordremoth’s cycle. Mostly because he was feeding off the leylines and woke after gaining to much magic.

IMO the dragons are displaying adaptive characteristics in relation to natural selection. (Check out https://web.stanford.edu/group/stanfordbirds/text/essays/MacArthur%27s_Warblers.html if you’re unfamiliar with it.) This is demonstrated by the dragons feeding off of magic in different locations and waking at different times. By sleeping at a leyline Mordremoth doesn’t compete with the other dragon’s for magic, in their case food. They also stay in their relative territories they mark out with their corruption.

There isn’t any mention of Mordremoth, a sixth dragon, in the previous cycle. The two possibilities for this is either he didn’t wake up or he wasn’t noticed. So either he isn’t part of the cycle or he wakes last. It’s speculation but I think when the other five dragons go to sleep their excess magic leaks into the leyline and this influx of magic is what would normally wake Mordremoth up.

Whether he was not suppose to wake or he woke early the cycle was broken, or at least altered. But why? The likely response is Scarlett but she was a tool and not the motive. The death of Zhaitan has been brought up as a motive but so far Mordremoth doesn’t seem to be heading to Orr. He doesn’t need Orr for magic. He has a pretty sweet deal feeding off the leylines.

I think he woke because of Glint’s egg. This means it has to be some type of threat to him in resources/magic or proximity. I think the Pale Tree’s vision involves Glint’s egg and it being a part of Mordemoths plan. The Zephyrites are the most likely care takers and may have placed the egg at a leyline to feed it magic. This may be where the Master of Peace was heading after the crash.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Um, actually there is mention. Priory headquarters there is a charr who mentions “Five against six…”

Fire races, against six dragons.

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Posted by: Ronin.7381

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My thoughts were that the Pale Tree was, inadvertently, preventing Mordremoth from stirring. So his wake was delayed and it wasn’t until Scarlet became Scarlet that Mord awoke, angry, and aggressive.

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Posted by: Goatjugsoup.8637

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my thoughts on it are if the elder dragons are supposed to be waking up 50 years or so apart (or at least that seems to be what we’ve seen this cycle) then mordremoth being woken early by scarlet could cause some major conflict between the elder dragons

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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Glint’s egg hatched 250 years ago. Sure there may be other eggs but why does everyone care so much about the idea of Glint’s egg in GW2? Isn’t the idea of Glint’s offspring growing to a full sized dragon, since GW1 players last saw it, a lot more compelling?

At least one of Glint’s egg’s hatched over 250 years ago. There is a GW1 mission where you protect it from destroyers (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Glint%27s_Challenge). It’s interesting that destroyers were specifically going after a dragon though.

Why would Glint’s egg today matter at all when we (possibly) have Glint’s offspring?

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Posted by: jhgund.5906

jhgund.5906

Glint’s egg hatched 250 years ago. Sure there may be other eggs but why does everyone care so much about the idea of Glint’s egg in GW2? Isn’t the idea of Glint’s offspring growing to a full sized dragon, since GW1 players last saw it, a lot more compelling?

At least one of Glint’s egg’s hatched over 250 years ago. There is a GW1 mission where you protect it from destroyers (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Glint%27s_Challenge). It’s interesting that destroyers were specifically going after a dragon though.

Why would Glint’s egg today matter at all when we (possibly) have Glint’s offspring?

The reason we are caring about an egg in GW2 is because that was what appeared to be in the Pale Tree’s vision. The item we saw might not be an egg. It could have been a cocoon, magic artifact, a rock, or whatever. In some peoples opinion it most resembles an egg.

Whatever it is the dragon wants it so it has to have some importance. If it is an egg than there are only a few reasonable options of where it came from, the most likely being a dragon’s egg (What other eggs would he care about?). There weren’t a lot of dragons running around or that we know of so a responsible assumption is it was Glint’s egg. We don’t have enough information to speculate further than that. We have tied Glint to it because the Zephyrites have a connection to her and the Master of Peace is up to something. In truth it could be the egg of another creatures, elder dragons, or not an egg at all.

I think the item is related to another dragon in some way because it has to pose a threat. The only threat I think he would even care about waking up for is a threat to his food source, i.e. the ley lines. I think the object, egg or not, is parked at a ley line feeding off its magic. This is where I think the story might go and is speculation on my part. Heck, we really don’t know if he was manipulating Scarlett or is being manipulated by what ever controlled her.

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Posted by: Ronin.7381

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Posted by: Goatjugsoup.8637

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oh imagine if glints egg becomes the new zhaitan like how kormir took over from abbadon

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

CureForLiving.5360

oh imagine if glints egg becomes the new zhaitan like how kormir took over from abbadon

Well surely there is a power vacuum in Orr right now…