Guild Wars 2

We have Primordus, Jormag, Kralkatorrik, Zhaitan and Mordremoth. As much as I love Bubbles, I’d really like to know the name of the last elder dragon.

As Kasmeer and Marjory have gone to the Durmand Priory to research dragons, it might be a good time to introduce/learn the name of the Deep Sea Dragon’s name, since the Priory would be the perfect place to find it. It would surely be good for the commander of the Pact, which was set up to fight the dragons, to know the dragons’ names, right? I just don’t want it to end up like Mordremoth, where the PC just randomly said the name.

I realise that they might even leave the DSD as the last one, but it could just be something for us to put in the back of our minds. Is it possible to get a response from Anet or am I in the wrong place?

Developers seldom reply to the lore threads. Of course they do occasionally, but I wouldn’t have any high hopes.
No matter how they reveal Bubbles’ real name, I’m sure they’ll do it in a better way than what they did with Mordy. The lore community was in outrage back then, and it didn’t go unnoticed

(What I don’t understand is why they didn’t go back and change the revelation of his name – now that we have the repeatable story instances)

Presumably the Priory don’t know the dragons name. If they did there wouldn’t be a good reason for players to not know it.

We’ll have to wait till our character and co. pull the name out of nowhere again.

they got Mordremoth’s name from ancient dwarven text

If I remember correctly, the name of the Deep Sea Dragon is unknown to keep the seas mysterious and dangerous.

If I were to guess, it would be some form of levithan, or Krakken, to keep in with the theme of a deep sea terror.

I’m surprised Zommoros doesn’t know. If he was around long enough to know about the Karka, he’s certainly been around through more than one Elder Dragon rising.

He is a she and her name is Ariel the Little Mermaid! D;

Theoretically, the deep sea dragon could have a name for itself that is like whale sound.

Titus.4285:

Developers seldom reply to the lore threads. Of course they do occasionally, but I wouldn’t have any high hopes.
No matter how they reveal Bubbles’ real name, I’m sure they’ll do it in a better way than what they did with Mordy. The lore community was in outrage back then, and it didn’t go unnoticed

(What I don’t understand is why they didn’t go back and change the revelation of his name – now that we have the repeatable story instances)

kitten , well at least they’ll do it properly when the time comes (Hope its soon)

It’s Bubbles the Good, Friendliest Dragon of All. She has Merry Mermare Minions of Mirth and Magic that wander Tyria’s oceans cleaning up excess ambient magic, thus helping to keep the world a joyful and friendly place for everyone.

Zaxares.5419:

I’m surprised Zommoros doesn’t know. If he was around long enough to know about the Karka, he’s certainly been around through more than one Elder Dragon rising.

If Djinn were even around at that time, they wouldn’t be on Tyria. Djinn are only native to Elona.

His name is John Smith.

The Deep Story Developer (DSD)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Zommoros-told-me-a-secret/page/12#post4509702

narwhalsbend.7059:

Zaxares.5419:

I’m surprised Zommoros doesn’t know. If he was around long enough to know about the Karka, he’s certainly been around through more than one Elder Dragon rising.

If Djinn were even around at that time, they wouldn’t be on Tyria. Djinn are only native to Elona.

The flaw in your logic is that Elder Dragons are not limited to continental Tyria. The deep sea dragon and Jormag both were not on continental Tyria when they woke – Jormag has pushed south into Tyria, however.

Furthermore, there’s indications that Zhaitan was not always where he was, given the fact that Arah was used to cleanse Glint’s corruption (would the Forgotten do that under an Elder Dragon’s nose, in the heart of its territory? No.).

Also, the Elder Dragons are stated on many occasions to be world enders, of sorts. They wiped all life from the world in the past. Being in Elona would not save you from the Elder Dragons’ consumption.

Probably a version of an old religion serpent or sea monster like Scylla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla) or Serra (http://www.mythicalcreatureslist.com/mythical-creature/Serra).

The DSD’s current role seems to be blocking passage into Cantha and invading and corrupting the depths of the unending oceans. The blocking passage part is very similar to Scylla.

In Greek Myth (Homer’s Odyssey), there was a giant whirlpool called Charybdis which was in an Ocean Strait (people are not sure which), Scylla would be on the opposite side ready to prey on sailors who sailed too close to Scylla when trying to avoid Charybdis. This seems to fit DSD quite nicely in terms of function at least, so maybe the name of DSD would be similar to Scylla?

Maybe they would mix Scylla with another old sea serpent, Leviathan. Could end up with Scylliathan? Just thinking Scylla is a little short considering the names of the other dragons are fairly long phonetically speaking and have a sense of omen to their name.

Jormag’s pretty short and sweet.

Cthulhu! (I wish)

Zaxares.5419:

Jormag’s pretty short and sweet.

Yup, but the phonetic of it lengthens the name.

Scylla is very short sounding, phonetic wise, either way, it is a shot in the kind of dark, only evidence we have is the first letter lol so I am very likely to be wrong on this.

At this point, conjecture and supposition are great, but do we really care about the name of something we aren’t probably going to have to deal with for another 2 or 3 years?

The DSD’s name apparently begins with an “S”, according to Wooden Potatoes’s insight.

So, with that in mind, we should begin looking into myths for villainous figures that begin with “S” and maybe have some cultural relevance to cultures the sentient sea people’s are based on.

I think people here realized the S bit before WP. He likes to present things found by the community without attribution – which itself is fine… Until people begin attributing the find to him.

I go a hunch it will be some name with an Arabic-like feel to it, since we have Largos whose names follow the same convention, and who can be one of the first living races that probably have met the effects of his corruption. I doubt the quaggans named it, or we’ll end with a Slooblupppplupp, even worse than Spongebob or Steve…

His name is Scourge of the Unending Ocean!
Snake of the deep sea!
Serpent of the dark below!
Slitherer beneath the deep depths!
Sinker of sea vessels!
Siren of the Undersea!
Sultan of the salty seas!

Bonus points if you read that in an escalating pirate voice.

Invidia.9074:

I go a hunch it will be some name with an Arabic-like feel to it, since we have Largos whose names follow the same convention, and who can be one of the first living races that probably have met the effects of his corruption. I doubt the quaggans named it, or we’ll end with a Slooblupppplupp, even worse than Spongebob or Steve…

I doubt they’d have 2 Elder Dragons named after Arabic references or having Arabic-like feel as you would say. We already have Zaihtan which is derived from the Arabic word Shaitan which is the Arabic word for Devil. Some people actually think Shaitan is Arabic for Satan but that would actually be Iblees. Anyways, they already had Orr names being of Arabic origin so I think they’d stick with a differet style for the DSD.

@Xukavi

Shaytan can be devil, THE devil and Iblis.
As for the Satan/Shaytan thing, the assumption isn’t quite wrong since Shaytan is the equivalent to Satan. The problem is that Christianity has a very vague concept of what/who Satan is… so I can’t blame anyone. :P

Anyways, while it’s possible that the DSD was ‘named’ by/after Largos who have an arabic theme, IMO it’s even more likely that it was named after the theme of the krait who have a Greek and Latin motif (and prolly threw a ‘ss’ into the name) since it’s been mentioned several times in the game that it awoke in their home.

Though yeah, guess we gotta wait a long time before we find out for real. ;P

VeaR.4286:

We have Primordus, Jormag, Kralkatorrik, Zhaitan and Mordremoth. As much as I love Bubbles, I’d really like to know the name of the last elder dragon.

Its probably something like xX360noscopeAnetrulez#cantstopwontstopbestdragon2014mlgprominecraftmw3bo2WoWsuxlolololololXx

I wonder if Anet just put in that letter and decided to let the community figure out a name and then base the real name on that to be lazy? :P

Pyriel.4370:

I wonder if Anet just put in that letter and decided to let the community figure out a name and then base the real name on that to be lazy? :P

I think i would appreciate a community chosen name, or at least like a part of it. Then AN can wrap around the stuff where the name actually came from etc etc. i really wouldn’t mind and would only show their communication and dedication to the forums.

#confirmed
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GscGunner.2419:

Pyriel.4370:

I wonder if Anet just put in that letter and decided to let the community figure out a name and then base the real name on that to be lazy? :P

I think i would appreciate a community chosen name, or at least like a part of it. Then AN can wrap around the stuff where the name actually came from etc etc. i really wouldn’t mind and would only show their communication and dedication to the forums.

Thinking about it, yeh! Would be cool for the community to name the dragon and impact lore and game experience in such a way of influencing the naming of a character

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I think people here realized the S bit before WP. He likes to present things found by the community without attribution – which itself is fine… Until people begin attributing the find to him.

Ah, sorry about that. My bad on the wrongful attribution.

Largos seem to have Greek connections, given Tethyos Houses seem to play off a Greek Sea Goddess, Tethys. In which case, we can look for entities in Greek Myth which begin with S.

Perhaps they’ll use an alternative spelling of Cetus[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetus].

ElysianEternity.6215:

@Xukavi

Shaytan can be devil, THE devil and Iblis.
As for the Satan/Shaytan thing, the assumption isn’t quite wrong since Shaytan is the equivalent to Satan. The problem is that Christianity has a very vague concept of what/who Satan is… so I can’t blame anyone. :P

Anyways, while it’s possible that the DSD was ‘named’ by/after Largos who have an arabic theme, IMO it’s even more likely that it was named after the theme of the krait who have a Greek and Latin motif (and prolly threw a ‘ss’ into the name) since it’s been mentioned several times in the game that it awoke in their home.

Though yeah, guess we gotta wait a long time before we find out for real. ;P

Well yea, its not exactly wrong but some people usually take it as a word for word translation and that it means Satan. It is regularly used as the word for Devil or The Devil as you stated and rarely used to refer to Satan himself. Anyways that aside, I do believe that his name would follow a different theme than Arabic.

Xukavi.4320:

ElysianEternity.6215:

@Xukavi

Shaytan can be devil, THE devil and Iblis.
As for the Satan/Shaytan thing, the assumption isn’t quite wrong since Shaytan is the equivalent to Satan. The problem is that Christianity has a very vague concept of what/who Satan is… so I can’t blame anyone. :P

Anyways, while it’s possible that the DSD was ‘named’ by/after Largos who have an arabic theme, IMO it’s even more likely that it was named after the theme of the krait who have a Greek and Latin motif (and prolly threw a ‘ss’ into the name) since it’s been mentioned several times in the game that it awoke in their home.

Though yeah, guess we gotta wait a long time before we find out for real. ;P

Well yea, its not exactly wrong but some people usually take it as a word for word translation and that it means Satan. It is regularly used as the word for Devil or The Devil as you stated and rarely used to refer to Satan himself. Anyways that aside, I do believe that his name would follow a different theme than Arabic.

The term Satan is actually hebrew for Adversary (http://www.bibletopics.com/BibleStudy/164.htm) and while it is primarily associated with “the devil” it can refer to anyone/anything standing as an adversary.

Perhaps the Elder Dragon’s name is….. Shing Jea?…..

It has an S in it and as for not matching the Largos’s language: Do you honestly believe that the Elder Dragons didn’t name themselves!?!

Well, if it’s Greek, Scylla is plausible. Or, corrupted versions of names like Seto or Scyrybdys

But actually, it’s Serendipity

DSD will be revealed during Wintersday and its name is Santa.

I’m going to keep calling it Bubbles regardless of its official name. I mean really how is “no amount of fire from our cannons could harm the mighty Bubbles” not hilarious.

Seem to remember this from somewhere else, but given its name apparently begins with S and has had the pet name Bubbles; what if we were close (except for 1 letter) all along with the real name being an anagram like Sebulba…

We even got these Adventurer’s Spectacles coming into this new region… coincidence?

The plot thickens! :P

Correct me if im wrong. but dont we know the first letter in there name now? We could probably use that to make some guesses based on the naming scheme of the other dragons.

The Durmand Priory believe its name begins with an S, but it could also be something else because of issues with translating the old scripts…

Well in this topic of the deep sea dragon i was looking at this picture of the elder dragon orbs and their marked with the letter that represents their names and on the upper left there is a blue orb with an S on it and iv looked up tones of dragon names that start with S i even looked at some dragon movies i’l leave a link here so that you people can see which name suits your theories
http://www.kismetrose.com/dnd/CharacterNamesS.html

1. We’ve already known the name starts wth an S.
2. The link you’ve sent doesn’t provide the names of the currently known Guild Wars 2 Elder Dragons (Zhaitan, Mordremoth, Jormag, Primordus) so it has zero credibility to provide the name of the still unknown Deep Sea Dragon.
3. You necro’d a 1 year old thread to add a futile post. (imho)

Now I’m not saying I don’t appreciate your effort of finding a suitable name for the DSD, I just can’t get behind this.

DnD -/→ DSD.

My apologies.

Severus. Severus Snape.

On a serious note, I could see it being something similar to Scylla as that is the hydra beast from Greek Myth. “Terror of the deep.”

Since the ocean is the most dangerous biome with the most dangerous animals it should be saved for last. Then again we would have hit Jormag second if that were the case as jungle animals are more dangerous than tundra. Or maybe second last since underground and lava are even more dangerous.

A female sounding name like Scylla would be cool.

I’m sure Elder Dragons don’t really have gender, but Zhaitan and Mordy have always seemed male to me.

Hmmm- It was somewhat revealed that the Elder Dragon in the waters name begins with the letter ‘S’—(assumption, but we will run with it)
And some of the underwater weapons I personally use are of Inuit carvings- (Killer whale)- I might say the name : Sedna, goddess of the sea—from Inuit mythology— It’s an English translation, but wasn’t Tyrian translated to English by our lore gurus anyhow?

The hinted picture of it had 3 heads if I remember correctly. That might play into its name.