Guild Wars 2

Tyria is huge, the continent that is, but so is the planet. I really wonder what else is out there, in the unknown lands of tyria (the planet)

I guess I can say Malyk, the sylvari from another tree, is one example of what lies in the unknown, of a world that only shows us less than what it truly may hold.

What other races are out there? If only 5 of the main racial cities are near each other on such a huge continent, I’m sure there are Many other beings on the larger part of the continent as well. Even the planet.

It boggles my mind when I see a true world map of tyria, and I am blown away at how little we have been exposed to from gw1 and gw2. I mean that in a good way. I really hope we get to see more.

It’s never been confirmed that there is actually a second tree. All evidence is pointing towards it, but Caithe’s doubts and the missing proof shows that it may not exist.

We have some more racial “capital cities”. Skritt, kodan, ogre, quaggan, hylek, (jotun) all have a bigger city which can be called main town (minor or major capital based on their racial structure). Adding just the extinct human races with their capitals in Orr and Ascalon (they are dead, but still around).
Finally pointing to the races where we haven’t seen any capital by now like largos, centaurs, more hylek and maybe even harpies. Those may be located on continental Tyria. It’s still not enough that we know of our continent, that it’s hard to speculate what is lying bejond.

if there are other races should we have already seen them in the mists?

@Purecura: Aside from the texture of the OoW’s globe (fun note: the in-game version and the texture don’t match up, there’s portions of the texture missing or elongated – the in-game version is an “improper” version of the globe that illustrates the threats and knowledge of the Order of Whispers, the texture itself has errors too, but not as great as the in-game version), the only bits we know about the world beyond what we see in GW1 or GW2 would be:

“My library is a wonder of the world, young one. Ancient scrolls, text from Tyria, ancient Orr, Istan and Kourna, and all the strange places throughout the world can be found within its walls. I even have stone tablets that were found on an island far off the coast… an island that mysteriously disappeared thereafter. Ha! I see I have your attention. Yes, my library is magnificent. I encourage you to come and see for yourself.”

“Once, a shipwreck cast ashore an entire crew and all those traveling aboard the vessel. They could not get off the island, so the people made a little village by the edge of the sea. Each day they would watch and hope that a boat would see them and rescue them. There was water and food on the island, and people made huts out of straw and mud. They were happy. But everyone continued to say they wanted to go home. So, a very old woman in the village began to make paper lanterns. She hung them on the edge of their dock and lit them every night. On New Year’s Day, a ship did come by, and it stopped at the island. All the people were happy to see the rescuers, but suddenly they realized that they did not want to leave the island anymore. They had all that they wanted, and more. So, now the people of that village light their lanterns every year on New Year’s to celebrate how happy they are in their new home.”

Then there’s the lore on the krait, quaggan, and largos.

Though the locations of either is questionable. Equally, we don’t know whether or not how much of Utopia is considered canon still.

@Horst:
The minor races don’t seem to have capitals. Hence why they’re minor races – they just have “really large settlements”, which as far as we know only encorporates skritt, hylek, maybe ogre, and that’s about it.

Quaggan seem to have had a capital – but only the southern quaggan that were driven out by krait; the northern quaggans had “great villages”, most of which are wiped out. Krait likely had a capital too but was destroyed by the DSD; the largos do have a civilization elsewhere, and we know tengu have the Dominion of Winds. Jotun have fallen to low levels, they are no longer united in large numbers, so they only have a few tribes living in their ancient citadels nowadays.

Harpies I highly doubt have a capital – they’re presented in both GW1 and GW2 to be very tribal. Much like the grawl, their advancement has been minimal over the two and a half centuries.

@saventis: Not at all. In GW1, we didn’t see other races in the Mists, only humans really, until their placement in the Mists became relevant. We had no indication of naga until Factions, no indication of harpies until Nightfall, and no indication of norn or asura until Eye of the North.

In GW2, we only see a few outliers beyond the player races. No tengu or the like are in the Mists, for example.

Until Anet makes a model for them, then it shouldn’t be expected to see a race anywhere, and the Mists could, theoretically, have races from other worlds – but we won’t ever see such unless Anet thinks of such. But that doesn’t mean that in the wide large Mists, there aren’t these other races we don’t see.

The rest of the world is run by ponies.

Once, the so-called ‘civilized’ races rode ponies and other creatures everywhere they went, but then the ponies rebelled and there was a great war, the War of the Mounts, at the end of which all the rider races (and other unfriendly people) were corralled within a limited area — the Great Corral, which is the world as we, the players, currently know it — and their memories were magically altered so that they would not remember how to ride or be inclined to ride or even explore beyond the confines of the Great Corral, ever again. Or at least until such time as sufficient numbers of them truly learned what it means to be true, true friends.

Those who, through extensive trials and tribulations, come close to understanding that the magic of true, true friendship must apply equally to all creatures are sometimes allowed to become Dreamers, gifted with the ability to share a wondrous vision of one of the great pony leaders cantering forth to inspire love and tolerance in times of need.

All it would take is a few pen strokes/key presses from the right person(s) for this or something like it to become lore.

This was posted today:

http://imgur.com/jK6kTlr

That’s just a recreation of the OoW globe’s texture with fixes to inaccuracies around Tyria.

Fan-made or official? I’d guess fan given imgur but asking to be sure as it could be from the dat.

Either way, how it’s labeled interests me, so I’m translating.

Edit: I see it’s pulled from the dat by that_shaman. To translating I go!

Edit: It seems that WoodenPotatoes has already translated most of it and will be uploading a video of his translations. I’ll still consider my own though before seeing his video.

It’s hard to make out the smallest texts, but what I can make out is:

• The NW and SE bodies of water are labeled Unending Ocean. So it seems they consider the world to have a single ocean.
• Cantha has five names. As one would expect they are (from south to north): The Jade Sea, Echovald Forest, Cantha (largest), Kaineng City, and Shing Jea Island
• Of the dots and lines, we have included amongst them Lion’s Arch, Great Temple of Balthazar, Kamadan, and Kaineng Center. The four major ports of GW1’s time. These dots have lines going to all other three – thus making a divided diamond shape with the lines.
  • Interestingly, there are two additional lines and dots – that only connect to the The Great Temple of Balthazar and each other, making a triangle. This implies that only the Zaishen traded with/knew of these two ports.
• The landmasses west of Cantha have 2-3 letter names. I cannot make them out, unfortunately. Lettering is too small. But I think they’re numbers – the eastern name looks to me to be 04.
• The text over the Battle Isles, naturally, reads “Battle Isles.”
• Elona’s texts read (from south to north): Istan, Kourna, The Desolation, Vabbi, Elona
  • Just above Elona is “The Crystal Desert”; Just NW of The Crystal Desert is “Ascalon” then “Kryta” furthering that path.
• The largest text on the supercontinent is “Tyria” – it doesn’t centralize over what we had in Prophecies or in GW2, indicating the supercontinent’s name is Tyria.
• The text just north by northwest of Kryta is “Ysle of Janthir” – I don’t get the typo, unless that’s a very thin I (which appears as a backwards S separated in the middle horizontally in this style of New Krytan).
• There are 6 other land names, and 3 bay/coast names on the supercontinent. I cannot read the entirety of them.
• The islands to the east of Elona have a 3 letter and a 5 letter names. I cannot make out the names.
• The islands to the west of Tyria have 3 land names and (including the second port) 2 names in waters (1 bay and 1 islands it looks like). I cannot make out the names, just a few letters here and there.

Interesting, the Shiverpeaks, Maguuma, Blazeridge, Verdant Cascades, Ring of Fire, Charr/Blood Legion Homelands are all without names.

Edit: The bay-like area in the SE part of supercontinent Tyria appears to me to be “Tazmre Cape/Cove” to me. Half of it is very thin/faded so it’s hard to tell (e.g., for the second word, I can make out C and three other letters, the last being either B, E, or F; Cape and Cove are the only geographical words I know that can fit it; I’d press for Cape though).

Edit2: The word just north of the above towards the eastern coast appears to be “Ormpus” – though this doesn’t really sound ‘proper’ to me.

The two word above that… appears… to be… “Not real”… Perhaps the owners of this map doesn’t think that land exists? o.O

I can’t make any others out.

It’s not fanmade – the map is found on the floor of the balcony in the Priory library. The dirt layer is of a different color, though.

Yeah, I realized and denoted such in my first post there.

Which I find very fascinating. According to my and WoodenPotatoes’ attempts, most of the stuff we haven’t seen in GW1 are more of descriptions, though a few here and there are not.

What interests me, however, is not the names. But the existence of two other ports that had/have routes to the Battle Isles.

Agreed – one of them is on a continent in the direction where Utopia would have been in. On that note, I managed to make out “Howling” on the eastern part of that continent, though the lower word eludes me. Starts with “p”, but that’s as far as I got.

EDIT: on further inspection, I believe the word below “howling” to be “peninsula”, so, that part of the continent would be Howling Peninsula.

Thanks everyone for your replies. Ill leave this video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK0SWR0ksD4

Tachenon.5270:

All it would take is a few pen strokes/key presses from the right person(s) for this or something like it to become lore.

If you repeat it often enough in the starter areas, people will come to accept it as truth.

Where Utopia is thought to have been. We never received confirmation that Utopia would have taken place west of Tyria.

Let’s compromise and say “Presumed to be hinted to have been the place it would have been in had the campaign gone through”, shall we?

Huh… looking at that map, and now back at the OoW one… the northern and southern edges line up, but the western and eastern ones actually don’t. Maybe someone’s beaten me to this- there was a thread a while back about what the map implies about the shape of the world, which I don’t believe I followed to its conclusion- but wouldn’t that suggest that Tyria has poles at the west and east? (That is assuming, naturally, that the map is both accurate and depicting a sphere on a square image.)

Based on my observations, the name on the eastern edge of the Tyrian landmass, right around the middle, appears to be made up of the letters

ol-m—s

Olympus might be correct, as speculated in woodenpotato’s video.

The dual lines of the O, the Z shaped nature of the L, the very strong right handle of the M, and the N shaped nature of the S are all very distinct. Based on the more cursive form of the M, there appears to be an additional straight line between the L and M, which matches with the letter Y.

The big black blob on the upper part of the letter right before S seems to suggest a U, other similarly shaped letters such as R and T dont have as much in the upper section, and wouldn’t cause as solid of a black box as a U would.

The only letting that seems off if the P, it just doesn’t look like one that much to me.
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On the left hand side of the map, on the area woodenpotato partially translated as “howling something” the first letter looks like a P, and assuming the word isn’t something made up, proper grammar dictates an A,E,I,O,U, or Y, has to follow it, and given the shape it looks like an E.

The world might be peninsula, where potato mistook the U for an R given their similar shape.

And peninsula does correctly describe that that landmass is.
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I would also agree with his first translation of “furious stretch”, for the location in the upper part of the map. the first letter doesn’t curve right IMO to be a C

The more I look at this word on the map, the more it looks like Misandry.(see attachment 1) This was the word, in the upper right hand corner of Tyira, wooden potato couldn’t translate, thinking it was foundry with an extra A.

Is Anet playing a joke or something? the word appears right next to a place that looks like it’s labeled “not real”.

Anyways, attachment 2 is what I’ve gotten so far

Where’s the equator? Between Elona and Cantha – along about where the Battle Isles are?

This map places it north of Istan, about even with central Kourna.

On the map is it “Forsaken Cliffs” east of Vabbi?

That looks to be correct from what I can tell.

Now we are left with 3 bodies of water, and two islands left to translate.

One of the larger islands looks like it says either 04 or 24, while the one next to it appears to have an H for a last letter, and what possibly looks like a G for a first letter.

Sajuuk Khar.1509:

The more I look at this word on the map, the more it looks like Misandry.(see attachment 1) This was the word, in the upper right hand corner of Tyira, wooden potato couldn’t translate, thinking it was foundry with an extra A.

Is Anet playing a joke or something? the word appears right next to a place that looks like it’s labeled “not real”.

Anyways, attachment 2 is what I’ve gotten so far

I hope it doesn’t say that.

Bad form by Anet if so.

I really like the idea of it being “foundry”. It give me hope that there are other cultures and people groups out there somewhere. The other option is just distasteful.

Prophet.6257:

I hope it doesn’t say that.

Bad form by Anet if so.

I really like the idea of it being “foundry”. It give me hope that there are other cultures and people groups out there somewhere. The other option is just distasteful.

There is most certainly an A in the word, both I and Woodenpotatos see and A in there. The second half of that word is andry, without a doubt.

On another note, more of the map has been translated.
-Those islands in the south west corner of the map appear to spell Gwen and Yeh, a person at who works at Arenanet, and likely made the map along with Dahye Kim.
-The island in the upper left hand corner appears to say Dawn
-The body of water near the “icy tundra” appears to say Frozen Gulley.

That just leaves two places left to translate, a feature near the “Frozen Gulley”, and a body of water near the forsaken cliffs. the one near Forsaken Cliffs appears to be “something” cove.

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Now that I look at it more, it appears to be frozen gullet rather then gulley, which makes more sense as gulley is is a rare spelling of gully.

I translated the bottom sea one as “Tazmre Cove”.

Could it also be “Thunder Cove” where the H is blurred together and looks more like an I.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I translated the bottom sea one as “Tazmre Cove”.

Abjurer.9302:

Could it also be “Thunder Cove” where the H is blurred together and looks more like an I.

I got what Abjurer said when I translated it

I included both the original and the negative version of the map, with how I separated the letters, in the attachment below. I wasn’t 100% sure about the H, but the E looking shape in the second letter could be the right half of the H symbol, the upper and lower extensions, as well as the middle line, forming an E shape. the left half may have been blurred into the side of the T.

Wit this, we only have the body of water or land feature to the right of the “frozen gullet” left to translate. So far I’ve got —or-s or ---or-s. It looks like it might be spores or shores, but i can’t make it out on any version of the map.

how about cove maybe.

In my opinion a lot of the labels are made up. Some are from lore but I think a lot were just labels for decoration. I think they added “Not real” because they didn’t want to mislead people in to thinking this is concrete lore fact.

For the last location the word “Fjords” makes sense but the second character does not line up nicely.

Fjords is also something i thought of, but, as you said, the J doesn’t line up at all.

I still haven’t been able to figure out what it says.

From a gameplay point of view, the fact that ANET released this map, conjures up thoughts that maybeee we will get the chance to visit these far off lands….?

Has anyone figured out the name of the body of water next to the Forsaken Cliffs yet?

Havenfrit.9371:

Has anyone figured out the name of the body of water next to the Forsaken Cliffs yet?

Thunder cove apparently: http://thatshaman.blogspot.nl/2014/11/updated-high-resolution-map-of-planet.html

Any theories what each of the areas look like?

I can assume that Not Real is a Chaos Magic effected land….

Thunder Cove most likely has Thunderstorms at all times…

Forsaken Cliffs most likely are dark and creepy…

Olympus is most likely Greek…

Wetland is obviously all Wetlands…

Hownling Peninsula is most likely windy….

Arid is eithera Saguaro Cactus Desert to contrast the Maguuma Wastes(which has Prickly Pear Cacti) and the Crystal Desert(which has no Cacti at all) or a dry mountainous region….

Dawn is most likely bright and beautiful….

Foundry is most likely a factory….

Icy Tundra and Frozen Gulley are most likely the same as the Shiverpeaks…

No idea on what Furious Stretch is like….

The Isles of Janthir are mostly black rock judging from the GW 1 map….

The Sunken Isles would most likely be tropical and filled with ruins….

No idea on what Yeh and Gwen look like though it’s now obvious what the girl from Guild Wars Prophecies was named after….

Kim and Dahye judging from the names are Canthan just like the Battle Isles are….

Wonder what they look like….

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

No idea on what Yeh and Gwen look like though it’s now obvious what the girl from Guild Wars Prophecies was named after….

Kim and Dahye judging from the names are Canthan just like the Battle Isles are…

Gwen Yeh and Kim Dahye are both arenanet employees, most likely they were the ones who created the map.