Where did Canthans come from

Where did Canthans come from

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Posted by: Cardon.4092

Cardon.4092

According to the timeline, the human race appeared on Cantha more than 500 years before they appeared anywhere else.

But the orrian scrolls make a point that humans arrived in Orr with and because of their gods (while supposedly just ‘dropping off’ the Elonians on Istan).

Did the gods just bring the Canthans to planet Tyria and were like ‘whatever, let them do their thing until we come back’ or are Canthans somehow humans that are natural to Tyria while Tyrians are near-human ‘aliens’?

I just came across this as I was about to give an explanation how humans spread (which is kind of messy, Orr being the first Tyrian nation declaring independence… from whom? Ascalon, with which they were ruled together by Dorics lineage?) and it baffles me because those orrian scrolls made it a priority to tell you that that’s where the gods brought the first humans through the mists.

They aren’t without their quirks, though, because they somehow mention Kormir a whole 1400 years before her ascension.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Nothing says that the act of bringing humanity to the world in Arah was done in 205 AE.

In fact, we know that’s not true. In 205 AE, humanity arrived in Tyria and Elona by boat. The act of bringing humanity to the world via portal opened by Dwayna, and humanity’s arrival on the shores of Tyria/Elona in 205 AE, are two different events.

So it seems that the events of humanity’s origins is:

  • Dwayna brought humanity to the world at Arah.
  • The gods moved humanity (or they moved themselves) to another, unknown location, before they could leave a mark of history on Orr. An interview a long while back with Jeff Grubb hints this place can be south of Elona and/or Cantha – if this map is accurate then it is likely the dual-continent west of Cantha given next point.
  • Humanity arrives via boat on the northwestern shores of Cantha.
  • Humanity arrives via unknown-atm means in Echovald Forest and Jade Sea (note: not the same group as those of the northwestern shores). Luxons hold tales of a homeland across the sea.
  • Humanity (again, a group not of Cantha) arrives on the shores of Elona and Orr.
  • Orrians spread into Ascalon and Kryta; Elonians spread into Vabbi and the Crystal Sea (the latter being the Margonites).
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Posted by: Cardon.4092

Cardon.4092

So they appeared where Arah currently stands, then collectively moved out to some other continent and waited a while before they decided it’s time to go back to where they originally landed?

That’s one hell of inconsistent settlement policy.

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Posted by: Narcemus.1348

Narcemus.1348

It’s stated that after arriving Balthazar purged Orr with a searing flame (most likely to remove Dragon Corruption). I would say that they probably brought humanity to Orr because that was where they already had a portal, but they then decided to move humanity to an area that didn’t have as much draconic corruption.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

That’s the theory, Cardon. Do keep in mind that Arah was where Glint was cleansed thus you can presume Kralkatorrik’s corruption was present – and it’s where Zhaitan fell asleep, so his corruption was likely there too.

And if all humanity was on Orr, then Balthazar couldn’t have swept the land in flame (he would kill all the humans) for Melandru to then regrow vegetation in the land.

It isn’t entirely clear what happened after humanity was originally brought to Orr, however it’s heavily implied that not only did the Six Gods not make Arah (due to the story of Glint and the mentions of there already being steps of Arah when Dwayna arrived) but also that humanity was moved after being brought to the world (likely due to draconic corruption, or perhaps the Six Gods wanted to live away from humanity and decided “Arah is ours, not humanity’s”). Not proven though, just heavily implied.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.