Guild Wars 2

There is a heart, in Lornar’s Pass (near Winterthaw Waypoint) where you’re told that “Primordus shapes them out of rocks/lava.”
However there is a Durmand Priory mission with the Skritt where you stumble upon destroyer-eggs. Your Durmand-mentor (no idea her name) tells you. “Maybe these harpies where carrying the eggs prior to their corruption.”

So at one point you’re told that the Destroyers are made out of inanimate material and at the other point you’re told that they are basically corrupted beings.

Looking at Jormag/Kralkatorrik there are sure ED’s who have the power to corrupt animals/humans. Also Zhaitan’s risen could be seen as corrupted humanoids/animals. But where does Primordus gets his minions from?

And as a bonus question; where did the destroyers come from in GW1?

In GW1 the destroyers came from underground and spread throughout Tyria’s surface through the Asuran gates (that were at the time underground; Asurans were originally underground dwellers). It looked like they primarily came from the Destroyer himself, who was at the time at the Control Center of the Asuran gates. At the time, it was somewhere underground in the Shiverpeaks but with the 250 year time jump, idk if it’s still considered the Shiverpeaks.

These incarnations of the destroyer came from rocks/lava/mountain as well — forgot to add. They did not come from corrupting other creatures; they literally spawned from underground.

The cave from where they spawned in GW1 was the same cave where primordus was sleeping. Everything was just rocks and magma down there except for the asura who had their central transfer chamber adjacent to the cave. We could see the destroyers spawn from the magma. This doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the only way for destroyers to be created though. We didn’t see destroyer harpies in GW1 if I recall correctly, so they probably got corrupted some other way later on.

The destroyers are all spawned underground, and its said that when they spawn they can imitate other beings. So when spawned, some destroyers may take on the form of harpies, crablings, trolls, etc. I’ve never heard of them being able to corrupt other lifeforms and turn them into destroyers.

I think there’s two types. The ones from GW1 were all spawned from lava and rock, hence their forms not resembling anything living at all. Many of the ones from GW2 have forms that resemble living creatures though, so those could very realistically be corrupted beings. Most likely, crabs and trolls are a mixture of corrupted and created whereas all harpies are created. Just some speculation..

Well, when a dragon and a mountain love each other very much….

We were told that each Elder Dragon corrupts differently, and that destroyers are corrupted land… Logically, Primordus shouldn’t be capable (or shouldn’t prefer) to corrupt living beings. There’s no such evidence he can or has other than that one line you give.

Makes me think your mentor’s a little off on her money – which she is a tad crazy.

Edge of Destiny describes the creation process of destroyers fairly well, imo. The Destroyer of Life is standing guard over a pool of lava, where rocks are slowly drawn together to form destroyers. Kind of like some sort of creation vat. Which is indirectly seen in GW1, when destroyers rise from the lava around the Great Destroyer.

@Davelid: They all use the same animation, but it was said that Primordus creates destroyers in mockery of living creatures. If you look closely, there’s no way a Destroyer Troll or Destroyer Harpy could have once been a living troll or harpy. Not unless their bodies became rock and now lack any kind of flesh and bones.

If you played Guild Wars, you would know that the Destroyers were Primordius minions, when the Elder Dragon awoke, the Destroyers came to life and started spreading very fast, which made the Asuras come to the surface of Tyria, they lived underground before.

Here’s the link to wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Primordus

I did play GW1 and in GW1 the Destroyers looked more…unhumanoid than they do in GW2. There are rolling Destroyers and stuff like that. However most GW2-Destroyers look more like actual beings. I like the term “mockeries” for the GW2-Destroyers very much.

This one line of that mentor really sticks in my mind though. She mentions the possible origin of the destroyer-eggs by saying “carrying the eggs prior to their corruption.”

I just looked up the “My Story” tab to see what it says about that misson:

It seems that the destroyer was a unique ceature-a dragon minion that could create offspring. We have to kill that creature before it lays more eggs.

Makes it pretty clear that the “corruption”-theory isn’t likely to be true. I wonder why a member of the Durmand Priory is not aware of such a thing though.

What I remember from the ’ visions’ bout the creation of destroyers in gw1 it was that it looked like the great destroyer was a minion master that was summoning minions like a necromancer. I mean here the way they pop out of the ground and then stretching out. So my thoughts are that the gw1 destroyers are different from the gw2 destroyers where the gw1 destroyers are summoned minions for the great destroyer and the destroyers in gw2 are simular but lesser then the great destroyer and made by primordus himself now.

I see a simular thing with Jormag. On one hand you have the sun’s of svanir that are touched by Jormag’s champion like Svanir was. They where Norn once and though corrupted, still look like Norn. There are also the corrupte ice forms that are made from corrupted ice or are ice itself. Though we don’t know the origin of the second form, I have a good hunch that those are created by Jormag himself.

@mercury ranique: we do know the origins of the icebrood. They consist of living beings and creatures such as norn, kodan, elementals, wolves etc. and were corrupted by Jormag’s champion, the Dragonspawn.

Not all icebrood are made by the Dragonspawn.

Jormag and his champions corrupt via mental abilities – so they can, seemingly, only create icebrood out of living beings. Though there’s actual corrupted ice so that may not be the case.

Mirodir.1672:

I did play GW1 and in GW1 the Destroyers looked more…unhumanoid than they do in GW2. There are rolling Destroyers and stuff like that. However most GW2-Destroyers look more like actual beings. I like the term “mockeries” for the GW2-Destroyers very much.

This one line of that mentor really sticks in my mind though. She mentions the possible origin of the destroyer-eggs by saying “carrying the eggs prior to their corruption.”

I just looked up the “My Story” tab to see what it says about that misson:

It seems that the destroyer was a unique ceature-a dragon minion that could create offspring. We have to kill that creature before it lays more eggs.

Makes it pretty clear that the “corruption”-theory isn’t likely to be true. I wonder why a member of the Durmand Priory is not aware of such a thing though.

Here’s a thought. If the usual method of creation is as we have previously known it to be, ie creation by the champion of Primordus from stone and magma, then any sign that individual destroyers are gaining the ability to reproduce themselves would be a huge threat. Their numbers are already exploding with only direct creation by the dragon’s champion, could you imagine the swarming that would occur if the destroyers themselves began producing more of themselves?

The “corruption” line still doesn’t make the most sense, but since Primordus creates his minions in a mockery of life, then perhaps as he and his champion are exposed to more varieties of life they may try experimenting with more complicated mimicries, including potentially ones that can become self-replicating in a mockery of living reproduction.

And upon seeing such an unusual occurrence maybe that one Durmand Priory NPC was temporarily fooled… The strength of the Durmand Priory seems to be in knowledge, true, but the sort of knoweldge that comes from careful research. No one said they had to be all-knowing and encyclopedic from the word go. As long as she went home and fact checked and cross-referenced and came to the right conclusion later on she wouldn’t really be breaking with the Durmand Priory vibe.

Of course, it’s probably just a mistake by one writer doing filler text or something, but this is how my brain wants to reconcile it.