Which lore theories of yours were right?
I have a 100% record so far…
…Of being wrong.
Very little seems to be progressing in a natural, logic order anymore, so I’m just gonna ride it. I love the World, the little stories in each map, but the whole main story is just all over the place and too uncohesive for me to spend much time speculating going forward.
Can’t think of a single time I was right either. A lot of theories I have had have either never been dealt with or were way off base. Like siding with the thought that Sylvari are a Tyrian defense mechanism against the ED and that their souls were really souls recycled from the Mists.
First one that comes to mind, probably because it was relatively recent, is Caudecus being high-ranking White Mantle. Pretty obvious, I know, but I saw so many people who insisted that Caudecus must be the good guy simply because he was the democrat seeking to limit the power of the despotic monarch. Never mind that the Ministry is probably no higher than a 7 on the democracy index, and that may be being generous.
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.
Caudecus manor: hes gonna commit suicide.. nope
Draconis Mons: Taimi gets blown away, shes a goner.. nope
Lazarus is Palawa Joko.. nope
But i dont have a perfect loss record since I called that caudecus would be the WM boss or a near-boss-rank
Excluding the obvious like Caudecus was high ranked WM… Post-initial release content related:
- Toxic Alliance were made by Scarlet (for the 2 weeks we didn’t know it was even placed down as bets between “nah, Anet wouldn’t pull the same thing twice like with the Molten Alliance” and “Anet makes Scarlet a one-note song”)
- Exalted were tied to Forgotten (before knowing they were called Exalted; everyone else thought they were mursaat, hah!)
- Caithe wasn’t evil when stealing the egg
But I’ve been wrong a lot too, given there’s been a lot of contradictions going on in the plot since S1.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
I haven’t had a lot of theories. Speculation, sure, but more what-if rather than I-believe.
I was dead wrong on “they can’t put gliding in central Tyria” but that’s not lore, that’s coding
I do have an outstanding, long held theory. It’s not yet proven wrong or right, but I maintain that Faren is E, Scarlet Pimpernel style, and I eagerly await the story chapter that will resolve that one way or another.
I haven’t had a lot of theories. Speculation, sure, but more what-if rather than I-believe.
I was dead wrong on “they can’t put gliding in central Tyria” but that’s not lore, that’s coding
I do have an outstanding, long held theory. It’s not yet proven wrong or right, but I maintain that Faren is E, Scarlet Pimpernel style, and I eagerly await the story chapter that will resolve that one way or another.
….I think I’d like that.
I knew Belinda would die as soon as she was introduced.
All Professions Level 80
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1l4m9d/the_pale_tree_glint_20/
Two years before HoT released proper.
One theory I had was that the closer to death someone gets, the closer to the Mists they get; a sort of literally one-foot-in-the-grave sort of deal that was confirmed with the Lake Doric episode.
Heck yea
One theory I had was that the closer to death someone gets, the closer to the Mists they get; a sort of literally one-foot-in-the-grave sort of deal that was confirmed with the Lake Doric episode.
Heck yea
This one is not a theory, it’s actual lore. I mean aren’t you able to see envoys once you die in faction ?
Pact Leader is going to spend majority of their time behind a desk filling out paper work only.
I am glad the Commander did not become the leader of the Pact because it would go against what the Player character does by going out on adventures instead of being a active “commander” of the Organization. Not to mention all the Paper work he or she would have to constantly fill out daily while dealing with constant request.
Being a Adventurer in a small group is more suited for the Commander.
Shortly before HoT was announced, I had predicted
(1) that after defeating Mordremoth the story would deal with being caught between Primordus and Jormag fighting one another and dealing with them at the same time,
(2) after that, the story would appear to turn to Kraalkatorrik, but then the gods would return without warning to hijack the story, trivially wrecking Kraalkatorik and dragging Tyria into a conflict with much deadlier enemies from beyond the Mists (mostly I was thinking that people would be sick of Elder Dragons at that point.)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/12-years-to-kill-the-last-dragon/4696254
While it was obviously not correct, it wasn’t all that far off the mark either.
It wasn’t my idea originally but I was one of the people who sided with the “sylvari are dragon minions” idea before Season 2.
There was a lot of opposition to it at the time, mostly based on the assumption that dragon minions were always 100% evil, except Glint and her children (seen in a GW1 challenge mission).
But it was the only thing that made sense to me, particularly because the sylvari can’t have children themselves but are produced in large numbers by a single ‘queen’ like worker bees and ants in real-life and are able to manipulate other plants to serve their purposes – exactly like dragon corruption (except they choose to use it to make houses and bridges and things).
“Life’s a journey, not a destination.”
I am looking forward to the Finale.
But the theory I defended so much about Lazarus is Lazarus… failure xDDD
I suspected that Lazarus can be a human God- Kormir, Lyssa or Balthazar.
I think it’s 2 of 3 that were correct now with the last release. The incorrect one was about the Sylvari, I thought they were some kind of dragon anti-virus, born from Tyria to combat them, hence their immunity to the corruption. Well HoT proved me wrong.
The two correct ones were Glint actually being a dragon champ and (Spoiler for last mission of LS3 EP6)Livia being Anise mother.
Well, this release just proved two of my theories right:
First that Lazarus was not out of the picture with the reveal of Balthazar.
Second that Anise is not Livia.
Though I was wrong about Livia not becoming younger due to the Scepter of Orr.
@BuddhaKeks:
Livia says she has no bloodline (though this may have been a lie to deceive Lazarus). The PC compares Anise and Livia’s relation like a child to parent, but Livia denies it, saying “all of Shining Blade is my family” (paraphrasing).
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
(edited by Konig Des Todes.2086)
I wouldn’t say outright denial, she deflected it. I think the way she reacted to the Commander’s questions and considering they look very similar and have almost the same personality, the hints at them being related by blood are a little too strong. Sure she told Lazarus she doesn’t have children, but considering the guy would go after Anise in an instant, should Livia lose the battle, it’s wise not to tell him. And the way Livia asked the Commander not to talk about the matter for her sake (or something along those lines) is pretty much as close as confirming as she can get without confirming it.
I don’t think they look similar at all. Livia is dark olive skin with dark red hair, Anise is pale skin with auburn hair. She looks more Ascalonian. Wouldn’t be impossible if Anise’s father is Ascalonian but honestly I find it unlikely. Also unlikely for Livia to have a kid after so long. She would have had to met one hell of a guy for her to want a family after two centuries of living.
I don’t recall Livia asking not to talk about it for anyone’s sake – her’s or another’s. She merely replied with saying the Shining Blade was her family afair.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
I wouldn’t say outright denial, she deflected it. I think the way she reacted to the Commander’s questions and considering they look very similar and have almost the same personality, the hints at them being related by blood are a little too strong. Sure she told Lazarus she doesn’t have children, but considering the guy would go after Anise in an instant, should Livia lose the battle, it’s wise not to tell him. And the way Livia asked the Commander not to talk about the matter for her sake (or something along those lines) is pretty much as close as confirming as she can get without confirming it.
She asks the PC not to tell anyone she is Livia. There is very little indication if any of a blood relation. It is fine to speculate it as a theory, but it remains currently unsupported by the game at this time
New confirmation
[Spoiler] Livia leads the Shining Blade [/spoiler]
I distinctively remember her saying “don’t let anyone know, for her sake”. It was the german version though, maybe the dialog is different in english. I should learn to make screenshots during those scenes. Anyway, look at it from the writers perspective, why would they let the player character compare them to mother and daughter, if it wasn’t relevant for the plot. It could be a red hering, but why? There is nothing that could be revealed that would be bigger or more interesting.
@Amaimon: No, she doesn’t. Livia has stepped down from leadership in 1157 AE, there’s been four Master Exemplars since then. She follows Anise’s orders, though barely.
@BuddhaKeks: So in Edge of Destiny, when Zojja and Snaff were compared as father and daughter, that means that they were actually father and daughter?
The comparison is made because that’s how they act. People having father figures – or mother figures – is a very common thing. Especially (but definitely not solely) if the person didn’t know or hated their biological father or mother. The PC was ultimately just commenting on how, despite the fact Anise was leader, she often differed to Livia’s judgment.
That’s hardly a red herring.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
Apples and oranges. Yes not every comment that compares people to parent and child means they that, but in this instance it serves no purpose other than to hint at exactly that. I mean there was really no speculation that this could be the case at large from the community, atleast I can’t remember anyone but me saying that it might be the case, so why hint at it, as soon as Livia appears in the story unless they want people to think it is a thing?
You keep saying it’s a hint.
I’m not sure it’s a hint.
That’s my point.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
At the bottom line, the fact that you’re even arguing over it shows that it hasn’t been confirmed to be right. You’ve had a few more hints suggesting it might be right, but it’s not a confirmed thing from which you can say that your theory was right.
I’ve got my own that I was going to put up here – that the Enchanted look similar to the mursaat because the Forgotten based the Enchanted on mursaat armour – but then I realised that while we’ve had more hints pointing in that direction, there hasn’t been anything that actually confirmed it.
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.
I think I’m still at a solid 0 for correct theories with Anise not being Livia. Which leads me to wonder about what Canach’s conversation with Anise about her age really meant, if not that she was Livia in disguise.
Canach’s conversation was along the lines of what Anise might be hiding under an illusion. It might be an age thing, like he guessed, but it also might be some nasty scarring, or blonde hair, or a humiliating tattoo from when she got drunk on the town as a teenager. I always thought that people were reading more into that exchange than it supported.
Incidentally, though, this reminds me that it does confirm a theory that I’d had:
That Livia was not Anise, but was still around in the Shining Blade under an alias and keeping a low profile.
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
They hate her the way Star Wars fans hate Jar Jar Binks.
I seem to have also been wrong about Braham being an idiot, and going ahead and killing an extremely weakened Jormag leading to the world being on the verge of collapse.
Another theory of mine confirmed, Deessa’s observatory (and her) is just another looping fractal. I used to think Arkk was an outsider trying to get Deessa out but even he was just a looping anomaly..
I needed to stabilize my mind after that fractal
I seem to have also been wrong about Braham being an idiot, and going ahead and killing an extremely weakened Jormag leading to the world being on the verge of collapse.
I got the sense that Jormag just sort of merged with the ice, so that they couldn’t get at him. It wasn’t that they chose not to fight him, they just couldn’t reach him.
I seem to have also been wrong about Braham being an idiot, and going ahead and killing an extremely weakened Jormag leading to the world being on the verge of collapse.
I got the sense that Jormag just sort of merged with the ice, so that they couldn’t get at him. It wasn’t that they chose not to fight him, they just couldn’t reach him.
Or at the sea bottom, equally unreachable