Guild Wars 2

I was thinking about this earlier. Are there inherent benefits to living close to them? Such as living close to a Volcano gives you beautiful scenery and extremely fertile land?

For example:
The Human City of Arah was right on top of Zhaitan.
The Norn were living close enough to Jormag to be forced out
The Asura were extremely close to Primordus and built their central transit hub on top of him!
The Krait have been living close enough to Bubbles to force them out.

Kralkatorric I don’t know enough about (Despite being my favorite). Same goes for the Jungle Dragon.

Well for the most part, the races didn’t know they were living near a sleeping ED. Arah for example was chosen by the six gods as a place to build a city, the humans probably had no idea why there, and we don’t know if the gods knew about Zhaitan, or if they just sensed a source of powerful magic. Either way, I assume the reason they build it was Zhaitan’s magic leaking out of him.
The Norn did not live near Jormag, the Ice Dragon actually slept further north in the arctic sea, where the Kodan come from. The Norn only knew about the beast in the Drakkar lake and for the most part, kept away from it (until Svanir meddled with it).

The Asure build their central transfer champer on Primordus because their asura gates need a lot of energy and Primordus provided that. Similar to Zhaitan and most likely all EDs, he bleeded magic while sleeping (not sure if they also do that while awake). The Asura had no idea what Primordus, they just harvested the strange energy without thinking too much about it.
The Krait maybe even worship Bubbles, but we have to little information about it to be sure. They could have been attracted to the source of magic and power deep in the ocean, or they don’t live at all close to Bubbles and were only later pushed out by his minions. We simply don’t know.
Kralkatorric probably leaked magic too, but we aren’t sure if the charr used it for the searing or not. But they certainly didn’t choose to live near him, since the land they actually wanted is Ascalon, which is further to the south. They were just pushed into Kralli by the humans.
The Jungle Dragon (possibly Mordremoth) lives in Maguuma, but that’s all we know for sure. He could have slept somewhere else (or is he still sleeping?)

So basically, it comes down to the same thing as living near Volcanoes in that most of them live near the Dragons because of the Energy they emit. I really hope this Expansion moves into Kralkatorric’s territory next. :/

Axyl.9408:

So basically, it comes down to the same thing as living near Volcanoes in that most of them live near the Dragons because of the Energy they emit. I really hope this Expansion moves into Kralkatorric’s territory next. :/

In most cases you do know that your are living near a volcano, but people didn’t knew about that they live near EDs at all. Nor that they exist.

Gandarel.5091:

Axyl.9408:

So basically, it comes down to the same thing as living near Volcanoes in that most of them live near the Dragons because of the Energy they emit. I really hope this Expansion moves into Kralkatorric’s territory next. :/

In most cases you do know that your are living near a volcano, but people didn’t knew about that they live near EDs at all. Nor that they exist.

Not exactly true. People gravitate towards places of power. EDs eat magic, and are, therefore, living places of power. Without understanding why, the races have been attracted to the EDs because of the magic that they radiate. It’s a natural flaw in the plans of the Gods, and probably why they slunk off before someone smart figured it out and pulled a Charr (“We don’t need Gods, let’s kill them off!”).

The Six Gods built Arah where it was because of Zhaitan’s leaking magic, though they didn’t know of the Elder Dragon (according to Randall Grayston at least). However, what’s interesting to note is the Altar of Glaust there – which is said to predate the Six Gods’ arrival on the world, implying that the city of Arah already existed to an extent, so it seems that it may be simply that the Six Gods moved into a vacant house that leaked magic and they collected artifacts to study the world’s magic.

The Central Transfer Chamber was also built because of leaked magic, though the asura knew the source they didn’t know it was a living being – they thought it was a statue.

The charr lived near Kralkatorrik because it just happened to be in their line of conquest. The charr originate east of the Blazeridge Mountains – off of the map – where at least the Blood Citadel lies. They effectively made an n shape conquest around the Blazeridge, going north, west into now Blood Legion Homelands, and south into now Ascalon. Kralkatorrik was thought to be a mountain – though an odd one at that – and may have leaked magic, but neither situation was why the charr lived near it. That was just pure chance.

Jormag actually lived north of where the norn did. They didn’t live that near to him at all. And they even treated where his champion, Drakkar, was with forebode. It is hinted that Jormag slept in the arctic seas of Tyria, but it’s not certain; we just know he was close to them to personally go and cause havoc on the kodan before coming south. He did shatter mountains when he woke up, after all, so it’s likely that he lived a bit further south than the sea or coastline.

The krait may have lived near the DSD, but we cannot be sure. There’s hints that their prophets may be related to the DSD and/or its champions, but again we cannot really be sure of it.

With Mordremoth we don’t know if anyone was living near it.

Keep in mind that just because an Elder Dragon forced them out, doesn’t mean those forced out lived nearby – they ensure to take entire nations worth of land as territory when waking, so they could easily wake in desolate areas then head towards civilized areas.

What I’m curious about is why all of the Elder Dragons mentioned have been on the continent of Tyria or near Tyria? If these are ancient primordial forces of destruction/world resetting/etc. then why are they localized around the continent of Tyira?

If they aren’t, does that mean there are other Elder Dragons in other parts of the world that have not been discovered?

I just think it odd that, even though we’ve seen (questionable) representations of the entire planet, we’ve only heard that Elder Dragons threaten the continent of Tyria. The Emperor has Cantha on lockdown and Joko is the largest threat to Elona as he has been for ages. Are Canthan and/or Elonian Elder Dragons still slumbering?

Jormag and the DSD aren’t exactly “near Tyria” – Jormag’s closer, and he’s certainly on/near it now, but not upon awakening.

As for why they were all there, presumably due to the Seers and the bloodstone. During the last rise, the Seers harvested all non-corrupted magic and placed it within the bloodstone. Effectively they were starving the Elder Dragons in one fell swoop, while making an all-you-can-eat-buffet in the form of the bloodstone. The Elder Dragons likely began searching for it and fell into hibernation from hunger (effectively fainting).

Jormag’s ever present movement south despite kodan and life in all directions (unless he started at the very north pole, which I doubt, and is going south in all directions equally) supports this.

As to Canthan and/or Elonian Elder Dragons – there’s evidence, strenuous though it may be, of a Canthan Elder Dragon, however despite this all information tells us that there are only six Elder Dragons. Mind you, this is of jotun records so they may have only been privy to Elder Dragons around continental Tyria, and for all we know Elder Dragons could have been active across the globe for centuries without making prominent activities in known lands.

I See No Tomorrow.7302:

What I’m curious about is why all of the Elder Dragons mentioned have been on the continent of Tyria or near Tyria? If these are ancient primordial forces of destruction/world resetting/etc. then why are they localized around the continent of Tyira?

If they aren’t, does that mean there are other Elder Dragons in other parts of the world that have not been discovered?

I just think it odd that, even though we’ve seen (questionable) representations of the entire planet, we’ve only heard that Elder Dragons threaten the continent of Tyria. The Emperor has Cantha on lockdown and Joko is the largest threat to Elona as he has been for ages. Are Canthan and/or Elonian Elder Dragons still slumbering?

Kunnavang. That is all.

Akechi Hotaru.7129:

Kunnavang. That is all.

I always thought Kuunavang was just an overgrown Saltspray Dragon, but they may have just re-used the models. If Kuunavang and Glint are the same in the fact that they are both former Dragon Champions (although how a Dragon Champion could be corrupted by Shiro is unknown, Glint was only killed by Kralk and other champions require immense amounts of planning to defeat) then perhaps there is a Canthan Elder Dragon under the Jade Sea.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

As to Canthan and/or Elonian Elder Dragons – there’s evidence, strenuous though it may be, of a Canthan Elder Dragon, however despite this all information tells us that there are only six Elder Dragons. Mind you, this is of jotun records so they may have only been privy to Elder Dragons around continental Tyria, and for all we know Elder Dragons could have been active across the globe for centuries without making prominent activities in known lands.

Aye, that’s what I mean. We only know what jotun and other ancient races from the last cycle say about the number and qualities of the Elder Dragons, we don’t know if they knew absolutely everything.

Dragon minions are not immune to corruption, so it wouldn’t be impossible for a dragon champion to be corrupted/twisted by another power (like Subject Alpha, which is influenced by the draconic energies of at least five Elder Dragons).

Though Kuunavang – whom is the “strenuous evidence” of a Canthan Elder Dragon (specifically a sky/star/air related one) – does have one major flaw to her being a dragon champion: she seems to be of flesh and blood, which counters what dragon minions are (sans Zhaitan’s, mind you, though they instantaneously turn decrepit and somewhat rotten). Though words by Anet do hint at Kuunavang being like Glint in being a dragon champion that has broken free of an ED’s will, being of flesh and blood would practically fully counter the notion. Unless her model gets retconned majorly (like how Glint’s was minorly, to go from “looking like crystal spikes” to “being fully crystalline”).