Why Inquest played such a small role?

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Posted by: Slowpokeking.8720

Slowpokeking.8720

I mean their research of the Dragons are better than anyone. They were able to use dragon energy to create their minions. They caught a DSD’s minion and began to research on Mordremoth even before it awoke. The name Mordremoth firstly came from their subject’s skill. In Arah they were able to control Risen to their use. But in the main story, we don’t seek much of their knowledge, instead wasting time on some old city for “Every Dragon has a Weakness” garbage.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

Well, the Inquest isn’t the sharing type, so I’m not surprised we didn’t ask them for anything. Also remember that before Heart of Thorns the Pact was convinced they knew all they needed to (including everything the Inquest at CoE knew, by way of Zojja), and during the expansion we were in too much of a hurry to leave the jungle to seek information that may or may not exist.

I am surprised there weren’t any Inquest labs in the jungle, though. They were all over Orr, and Dry Top as well. They’re clearly not afraid of dragon territory.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

I’d say lack of inquest labs is because the HoT campaign takes place so shortly after the fleet events, and isn’t a big timeframe of the story missions.

Also, Inquest are not the sharing type, but the further away from Rata Sum, the more ‘independant’ the labs are. After Crucible of Eternity got shut down by the player character, that was THE largest, most active lab outside of Rata Sum’s watchful eye. Zojja also, IIRC, was taking the research data back to Rata Sum to expose the inquest, so they may have been hurt politically after that.

I’d say we haven’t had a inquest krewe who had an idea/where interested in the jungle and had the resources to safely GET into the jungle.

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Posted by: Slowpokeking.8720

Slowpokeking.8720

I’d say lack of inquest labs is because the HoT campaign takes place so shortly after the fleet events, and isn’t a big timeframe of the story missions.

Also, Inquest are not the sharing type, but the further away from Rata Sum, the more ‘independant’ the labs are. After Crucible of Eternity got shut down by the player character, that was THE largest, most active lab outside of Rata Sum’s watchful eye. Zojja also, IIRC, was taking the research data back to Rata Sum to expose the inquest, so they may have been hurt politically after that.

I’d say we haven’t had a inquest krewe who had an idea/where interested in the jungle and had the resources to safely GET into the jungle.

Obviously they took interest to the jungle earlier than others. They had the Zone Green in the reactor and the subject has Mordremoth’ power, that certainly didn’t come from nowhere.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

Hm. So it’s been brought to my attention that in Dragon’s Stand, you actually come across an Inquest barrier in the first events in south lane. The area behind is the POI ‘Rata Novan Remnants’, though, and the area has no one but chak. Maybe there was an Inquest krewe working out there, and they suffered the same fate as the previous asura?

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

I’ve been there… it’s just a red forcefield.

Nothing says that it is inquest besides the fact it is red. :/.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

The event NPC mentions it, supposedly. I haven’t seen it myself, but I’m told it’s one of the first two events in south lane, the one you have to talk to someone to start.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Well, my exploration of that zone was along that path, without the events going on. (As well as the story missions in that zone).

You can get into the ruins further on, then backtrack to the console behind the red forcefield.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

One thing worth remembering is that while the Inquest had a number of labs studying dragon energy near Orr (including Mt Maelstrom), the data from those labs might not have reached the rest of the Inquest. Kudu was their main researcher in dragon energies, and CoE got shut down and then destroyed – it’s possible that Zojja has more of the Inquest research than the Inquest does now. Similarly, the Inquest expedition into Arah gets taken out by us, and there’s an event chain that leads to the Inquest base in Malchor’s Leap getting trashed. So it might well be that the Inquest has been sidelined because the relevant information never got back to the main body of the Inquest in the first place.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Also the fact the inquest as a faction is rather splintered.

The group that remains in Sorrow’s Embrace seems separate in goal from Kudu’s plan before he died.

Way I remember it, ones directly around Rata sum are questionable, but not SUPER crazy (because they are right at or near Rata Sum). The further away, the more crazy the stuff they get up to.

An inquest lab near Rata Sum may have entirely different goals and leadership then one in bloodtide coast.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

draxynnic.3719

The Inquest are supposed to have an overall leadership – that’s part of what distinguishes them from the disorganised krewes more typical of the asura. The reduced craziness close to Rata Sum is less about the locals having more morals, and more about the Inquest preferring to do their most questionable stuff far away from prying eyes (especially the prying eyes of other asura). It’s possible that there is a correlation that the most amoral end up at the most distant labs, but this is because the more squeamish members aren’t going to be cleared for the nastier experiments, not because there are differences in leadership.

However, just because there’s a centralised leadership doesn’t mean that the far-flung labs are in constant communication with the center. Part of the Inquest’s justification is to ensure that discoveries are not lost by the death of the inventor (even if the Inquest as a whole keeps it to themselves) – however, if, say, a research head gets his face kicked in by Zojja, Logan, Rytlock and a team of Pact officers, and then the Order of Whispers was to blow up the lab, odds are that not all of their discoveries are going to get back to central command.

To those who think Scarlet hate means she’s succeeded as a villain:
People don’t hate Scarlet like Game of Thrones fans hate Joffrey.
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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Kudu was also being heralded as a major leader of the inquest, and we killed him + Zojja took all his research with intent to expose the worst of it to the Arcane Council (IIRC).

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Also the fact the inquest as a faction is rather splintered.

The group that remains in Sorrow’s Embrace seems separate in goal from Kudu’s plan before he died.

Way I remember it, ones directly around Rata sum are questionable, but not SUPER crazy (because they are right at or near Rata Sum). The further away, the more crazy the stuff they get up to.

An inquest lab near Rata Sum may have entirely different goals and leadership then one in bloodtide coast.

It’s less that they’re splintered, but that they’re working on a multitude of projects. Kudu was just a project leader – very high up, but ultimately not the top brass. He was the one in charge of dragon research, but not all Inquest care about that. After Kudu dies, Brie from Arah might have taken over that field, but with her dead there’s no indication that the Inquest carried on dragon research.

The group that remained in Sorrow’s Furnace were indeed there for different reasons by all indication – Kudu seemed to be there for testing to see if he could build a mega-golem (Iron Forgeman 2.0) that was powered with dragon energy.

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Posted by: EdwinLi.1284

EdwinLi.1284

Ya their role are mostly small due to how HoT was basically Part One of the full HoT storyline being mostly the stage setter part to what may be the real focus of Season 3 story.

We will have to wait for Season 3 for the full HoT story and probably get more into the Inquest being in the Maguuma and other things such as how the world is handling things.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

Being honest, I’m kinda happy the inquest aren’t in the jungle in any major sense.

It’s annoying to have them pop up literally everywhere the hero goes. They had a camp ready to raid the zephyrite crash… moments after the crash happened.

If they don’t show up, I’ll be happy.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

They were actually already set up in Dry Top long before the crash – and had a strong presence in the general area for a while (see Brisban Wildland’s Sinister Triad).

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Posted by: Slowpokeking.8720

Slowpokeking.8720

They were actually already set up in Dry Top long before the crash – and had a strong presence in the general area for a while (see Brisban Wildland’s Sinister Triad).

Then they should have played a more important role in the Mordremoth story. The story failed to present the war nicely, nor does the mystery(egg, Rata Novus) help much to the fight.

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Posted by: Kalavier.1097

Kalavier.1097

They were actually already set up in Dry Top long before the crash – and had a strong presence in the general area for a while (see Brisban Wildland’s Sinister Triad).

Then they should have played a more important role in the Mordremoth story. The story failed to present the war nicely, nor does the mystery(egg, Rata Novus) help much to the fight.

The way the inquest came across in that area was less “Established” and more of “They JUST arrived.”

Brisbane had plenty of inquest, yeah, but drytop seemed… new/rushed for inquest bases.

HoT storywise so far has been a short, brutal campaign. Inquest I feel don’t need to be included and frankly I’m hopeful that they DON’T get included. I’d rather not have inquest be popping up literally everwhere we go. :/.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Their dialogue implied that – regardless of how recent it might have been, they were there before the crash.

But being present in Dry Top does not mandate being present further west.

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Posted by: draxynnic.3719

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I’m inclined to think that they were established there as well. “New Kryta” clearly had been for a while, and we know the Inquest had an alliance with the bandits. What I suspect is that the Inquest had some indication that Scarlet had found something interesting in Dry Top (after all, they were temporarily allied with her, and she may have said something at some point – either by accident, or deliberately to distract them from her own plans) and were setting up labs in order to find it when the Zephyrites dropped into their laps.

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Posted by: Daharahj.1325

Daharahj.1325

I don’t know, the jungle is a pretty harsh environment but the inquest have a special kind of obsession with dragon research, it would have made sense for them to be there even before us.

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Posted by: ugrakarma.9416

ugrakarma.9416

The jungle environment in hot maps is supposedly tough enough even for the inquest. so it is very rare to see “non-native” in hot maps. Tarir depends on magical power to sustain themselves there, and Rata Novus died.