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Posted by: kingofdahobbes.6357

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Why did the dragons surface on the Tyria?
What does Tyria have that Cantha and Elona not have that have caused them to hibernate and awaken on Tyria?
At first I wondered if perhaps there were other dragons that surfaced on the other continents but apparrently there are only 6 and they all seem to be on Tyria (bubbles being the exception, sort of).
I can only assume that we’ll head to Cantha and Elona in the future and face non-dragon threats.
I just wondered why there were no dragons on the other continents.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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Yes there are 6 known, in Tyria (the continent, not the planet).
There is no information about if there are any Dragons around in Cantha or Elona.

There are however things that DO point towards there being at least one Elder Dragon on Cantha, due to a comment made about Glint and Kuunavang being similar AFTER the reveal of Glint being a Dragon Champion was revealed.

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Posted by: yayuuu.9420

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First of all, look at this map. I have marked places wheere elder dragons awoke. Probably “bubbles” is really close to Elona and as lordkrall said, there might be another one in Cantha. Imo their location is pretty random, that’s all.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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I would have sworn there was a thread about this not long ago… anyway, to reiterate on what was said there in briefer terms, it is suspected that a combination of the presence of the Bloodstones- which were, remember, all the remaining food the Elder Dragons had in the whole world- and the presence of the five surviving races drew the dragons to continental Tyria, and that whatever process it was that put the dragons to sleep then occurred.

First of all, look at this map. I have marked places wheere elder dragons awoke.

Slightly off there- Primordus awoke at the edge of the Searing, about a straight shot south from the Eye of the North. The only clue we have in regards to Mordremoth’s whereabouts is “jungle”, which is farther west than you put it. For all we know, Bubbles isn’t even on that map- he could just as easily be farther west, perhaps a great deal so.

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Posted by: Obsidian.1328

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Umm…because Cantha and Elona were not really a factor with the ED’s? I mean, it’s obvious the game and lore were designed to work entirely within Tyria. As a dev, why bother with incorporating the lore into other lands when you don’t even know if the game will ever go there?

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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Time, advancement and communication:

  • Time: not all the EDs started to stir at the same time, one could argue that there are many more spread over Tyria (planet) that are simply still inactive.
  • Advancement: Tyria (continent) may be the only place where magical races have evolved. EDs wouldn’t be as interested in non-magical races. Furthermore Tyria (continent) may be the only continent on the planet where magical races can evolve (lack of ley lines and therefore magic elsewhere on the planet?) – this would mean it would be the only place of interest to dragons.
  • Communication: isn’t it strange we have never heard stories from species elsewhere on Tyria (planet)? Never mind dragons, even simple stories that imply other races exist out there. It seems that no Tyrian (continent) has had the opportunity to interact (and therefore communicate with) a race elsewhere. They may be fighting their own EDs right now – we just have no means of hearing about it. If the game does indeed go to those continents some day; we may get to see first-hand what happens if you do not defeat an ED (assuming we defeat all of ours).

As for Elona and Cantha: bubbles. If I was in Cantha right now I would definitely be worried (more-so if I was in Elona). That could also explain why we haven’t heard from them in so long (they would be literally cut off by Bubble’s minions).

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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Time, advancement and communication:

  • Advancement: Tyria (continent) may be the only place where magical races have evolved. EDs wouldn’t be as interested in non-magical races. Furthermore Tyria (continent) may be the only continent on the planet where magical races can evolve (lack of ley lines and therefore magic elsewhere on the planet?) – this would mean it would be the only place of interest to dragons.

This, at least, is definitely false. We saw plenty of magical races in Cantha and Elona- hell, Elona had djinn, which are advanced elementals- literally sentient beings of magic.

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Posted by: Riot Inducer.8964

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Wow looking at that map made me realize if Orr rising sunk the battle Isles then Istan must’ve gotten hammered as well. Wonder if it’s above water these days?

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Posted by: Obsidian.1328

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The tital wave from rising Orr is a wonderful plot device for ANet. Anything on the coast they could theoretically explain away with it.

Don’t want the Battle Isles in GW2? Zhaitan.
Want to remake LA into a multicultural city? Zhaitan.
Want to cut off Tyria from Cantha and Elona because we might not ever go there? Zhaitan.

Maybe Zhaitan’s tidal wave somehow reached Janthir and that’s why there are no Mursaat around. :/

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Time, advancement and communication:

  • Advancement: Tyria (continent) may be the only place where magical races have evolved. EDs wouldn’t be as interested in non-magical races. Furthermore Tyria (continent) may be the only continent on the planet where magical races can evolve (lack of ley lines and therefore magic elsewhere on the planet?) – this would mean it would be the only place of interest to dragons.

This, at least, is definitely false. We saw plenty of magical races in Cantha and Elona- hell, Elona had djinn, which are advanced elementals- literally sentient beings of magic.

I think he means the rest of the map, so everything but Tyria (continent), Cantha, and Elona. There is a whole globe in the Order of Whispers base showing what appears to be a map of Tyria (world).

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Posted by: zamalek.2154

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This, at least, is definitely false. We saw plenty of magical races in Cantha and Elona- hell, Elona had djinn, which are advanced elementals- literally sentient beings of magic.

Except I addressed them in the final paragraph. I certainly don’t think that Elona and Cantha are excluded from ED shenanigans – we just haven’t found out about them.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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This, at least, is definitely false. We saw plenty of magical races in Cantha and Elona- hell, Elona had djinn, which are advanced elementals- literally sentient beings of magic.

Except I addressed them in the final paragraph. I certainly don’t think that Elona and Cantha are excluded from ED shenanigans – we just haven’t found out about them.

You addressed contact with other continents in the final paragraph. Your theory on the evolution of magical lifeforms specified only continental Tyria. I’m sure you can understand why I misinterpreted your point.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Why did the dragons surface on the Tyria?

They didn’t. Zhaitan, Kralkatorrik, and Primordus did. But Jormag actually awoke just north of Tyria; the deep sea dragon awoke in the deepest parts of the Unending Ocean; and though we were told Mordremoth is related to the Maguuma Jungle, we don’t know where he is sleeping – or if he’s still sleeping; he may be so far away we have less influence from him than the deep sea dragon.

Indications of the previous rise would place the DSD, Mordremoth, and possibly both Zhaitan and Jormag as having minimal to no interaction with continental Tyria until the end of their reign (or near to). With Jormag showing more influence than Zhaitan. As we only know Zhaitan was involved near the end due to sleeping in Orr; Jormag’s influence is only the Sanguinary Blade and Drakkar’s placement; Kralkatorrik is outright known to have been in the Crystal Desert/Sea area before hibernating in Blood Legion Homelands and his champion, Glint, was in Arah at some point. Aside from Primordus’ hibernation location, his only influence was multiple dragon champions in the Depths of Tyria (far more than we know any other Elder Dragon had in continental Tyria).

What does Tyria have that Cantha and Elona not have that have caused them to hibernate and awaken on Tyria?

Bloodstones, the majority of the last survivors of the previous rise, and possibly ley lines.

Furthermore, there’s hints of more Elder Dragons – subliminal, very minor, hints. Including one in Cantha (the biggest hint).

At first I wondered if perhaps there were other dragons that surfaced on the other continents but apparrently there are only 6 and they all seem to be on Tyria (bubbles being the exception, sort of).
I can only assume that we’ll head to Cantha and Elona in the future and face non-dragon threats.
I just wondered why there were no dragons on the other continents.

It’s only six dragons – to jotun knowledge.

Dwarven knowledge only tells us of Primordus, Jormag, and Zhaitan. Forgotten knowledge tells us only of Kralkatorrik. Jotun tells us of six over multiple cycles – but without names attributed to them. And these races were not omnipotent.

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Posted by: FlamingFoxx.1305

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^— and they were restricted to continental Tyria. As far as we know the Dwarves and Jotun never lived in Cantha or Elona, so what would they know of any Elder Dragons there?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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There is mention of dwarvern artifacts being found in the Jade Sea, so I wouldn’t be too certain of that.

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Posted by: FlamingFoxx.1305

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You’re right >.>
I suppose the Dwarves did have ships.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Dwarves had ice ships. Ships with flat bottoms. They wouldn’t survive crossing the Unending Ocean. But jotun are only said to have expanded within the Shiverpeaks themselves – though they had a related race, the ogres, in the Blazeridge.

Forgotten did go to Cantha for sure, though. But we don’t have many of their records and they were faily secretive like Glint was.

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Posted by: Timebandit.3570

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there are jotun in cantha on the shing jae island killed many doing the hard mode farming run back in the day on the bird guys.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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Those are yeti.

They are not jotun.

Yeti != jotun

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Posted by: yayuuu.9420

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Time, advancement and communication:

  • Advancement: Tyria (continent) may be the only place where magical races have evolved. EDs wouldn’t be as interested in non-magical races. Furthermore Tyria (continent) may be the only continent on the planet where magical races can evolve (lack of ley lines and therefore magic elsewhere on the planet?) – this would mean it would be the only place of interest to dragons.

This, at least, is definitely false. We saw plenty of magical races in Cantha and Elona- hell, Elona had djinn, which are advanced elementals- literally sentient beings of magic.

I think he means the rest of the map, so everything but Tyria (continent), Cantha, and Elona. There is a whole globe in the Order of Whispers base showing what appears to be a map of Tyria (world).

Awesome map, never seen this one. Currently even tyria map is not completly filled, but the devs have a potential of making the world so huge in the future and add as many Elder Dragons as they want.

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