Why icebrood doesnt attack sons of svanir?

Why icebrood doesnt attack sons of svanir?

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Posted by: Sublimatio.6981

Sublimatio.6981

Like I asked. I don’t know why. Dragon minions (icebrood) usually just seek to destroy the living (such as sons of svanir). Charr revering destroyers in GW1 didnt make them allied. It annoys me to run HotW and knowing they are all mixed between icebrood and sons of svanir (potion and sigils are different, why can’t anet just make “jormag minion slaying”).
I know that Jormag is all about corrupting minds, but shouldn’t the icebrood just immediately kill the living on sight and corrupt it, after the norns come to a trap?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

Some do, actually, but not all. It depends on the icebroods’ intelligence and the level of corruption of the Sons of Svanir (they progressively become corrupted due to sharing into Jormag’s power). We have cases like Omni (sp?) in the Personal Story or the champion quaggan in Frostgorge where the icebrood openly assaults the Sons of Svanir; then we have cases like Barrowstead where they don’t (and within Barrowstead, there is a Svanir Initiate chanting with a regular Son of Svanir to “hunt the icebrood, learn from them” (paraphrased) so hostility is both ways).

Some icebrood can be intelligent – some of all minions can be, in fact – depending on how much corruptive magic was put back into them when corrupted. So champions would be more intelligent, be able to utilize non-corrupted individuals, and then order the less intelligent minions to not assault those non-corrupted individuals. Koda’s Bane from HotW story was one such champion it seems, and we see a few others in HotW explorable (such as the shaman that’s fought in only one path).

With the destroyers, the minions were all mindless with no champion to guide them in utilizing the charr. Plus, unlike icebrood/Jormag, destroyers/Primordus seem intent on simply wiping out all life – Jormag seems to want to be worshiped and he obtains willing converts rather than corrupted slaves like Zhaitan and Kralkatorrik. This is why ArenaNet’s continuous claims of the Elder Dragons being without character is fully wrong, because they’ve already shown to us in-game and in the novels that they do have character – through their minions, if not more directly.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

(edited by Konig Des Todes.2086)

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

The Icebrood (Icebrood norns, at least) seem to retain enough of their intelligence and personality to be able to avoid killing the Sons of Svanir, possibly on orders from Jormag or his champions. In Dredgehaunt Cliffs, for example, there is an event where a Son of Svanir sympathiser runs to an Icebrood shaman, and the shaman outright asks him if he is ready to embrace the power of Jormag (i.e. become an Icebrood). The tone of the conversation suggests that the two have met before, and the shaman has decided that the time is right to make the conversion. (The sympathiser has cold feet (heh) at the last second, but the shaman doesn’t allow him to back out and tries to convert him forcibly, which the player can stop by killing the shaman.)

As to WHY Jormag doesn’t just corrupt all the Sons of Svanir at once, who knows? Maybe the Elder Dragon thinks it’s better to slowly corrupt the Norn via a “see? Corruption isn’t so bad. It’s your CHOICE to join Jormag and gain his power” approach. Or maybe Jormag enjoys the slow slide into evil by free-willed beings. It might even be a sign of “scruples” on the part of the Elder Dragon, a particular quirk in his choosiness about minions.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

As to WHY Jormag doesn’t just corrupt all the Sons of Svanir at once, who knows? Maybe the Elder Dragon thinks it’s better to slowly corrupt the Norn via a “see? Corruption isn’t so bad. It’s your CHOICE to join Jormag and gain his power” approach. Or maybe Jormag enjoys the slow slide into evil by free-willed beings. It might even be a sign of “scruples” on the part of the Elder Dragon, a particular quirk in his choosiness about minions.

I’d guess it’s because the Sons have better luck recruiting from norn homesteads, and thus spreading corruption, than a faceless form of ice would.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Sublimatio.6981

Sublimatio.6981

Thanks for answers

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

I’d guess it’s because the Sons have better luck recruiting from norn homesteads, and thus spreading corruption, than a faceless form of ice would.

A knock sounds on your door. You open. Before you stands a block of ice in a roughly humanoid form, beneath its frosty sheen you can see the skeleton of a norn embedded deep within. In a low, gruff, voice, the block of ice speaks.

“Hello, have you heard the word of our savior, Jormag?”

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: Gnat.9405

Gnat.9405

Jehovadottir Witnesses?

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

Aaron Ansari.1604

Jehovasson, I should think.

R.I.P., Old Man of Auld Red Wharf. Gone but never forgotten.

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Posted by: Mushroomz.4280

Mushroomz.4280

The sons of Svanir worship Jormag, but they aren’t technically minions, though many of them become minions eventually. Point is, they’re not icebrood so they may get attacked if felt like for whatever reason.