Why were the Titans beefing with the Mursaat?

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

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So this question came up in my guild with the recent Lazarus situation. We know that the Titans hunted down and killed the Mursaat when released. But do we know why? It seems that they were serving Abbadon, at the time, through Vizier Khilbron(in GW1). If so, why did Abbadon want the Mursaat destroyed?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

They were following Khilbron’s orders at the time, rather than Abaddon’s (they weren’t exactly the same).

However, dialogue with the Seer and a Forgotten in Nightfall implies that the titans and mursaat are much older enemies than during the time of Prophecies. It isn’t entirely clear though – it’s one of the unsolved mysteries of GW1.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

Where can I find this dialogue?

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hell's%20Precipice
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Forgotten_Warden

It’s a rather indirect implication, which only directly shows that the Seers (and Forgotten) have known about the hostilities of titans for “eons”, which would be either as old or older than the mursaat. I suppose rather than saying “titans and mursaat are old enemies” it’d be more accurate to say that “titans are old enemies to the ancient races of Tyria” (namely, mursaat, seers, and Forgotten if not more).

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

Thanks.

“Unchecked, the Titans will rend Tyria asunder. Stopping the Lich is the only real way to defeat them. But there is more to this problem than you know.”

From this dialogue, it seems like Titans are a threat to all life, even the new races.

If so, why and how did they zero in on and kilI the elusive Mursaat? Why did they wipe out the Mursaat as opposed to the Grawl or Jotun or something?

It doesn’t look there is an answer anywhere in the games right now. I hope it is something we can get more lore on in the future.

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Posted by: Squee.7829

Squee.7829

Maybe it was a simple solution. Such as, the Door of Komalie was a gate between the Realm of Torment and Tyria. (https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Door_of_Komalie) The Mursaat were powering this gate through sacrifices. Take out the Mursaat, you take out the gate’s power source. Therefore, sending something to destroy the mursaat would be an easy means to weaken the barrier.

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Posted by: Aaron Ansari.1604

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We also know, from GW2, that Khilbron had some sort of grudge against the mursaat, and at least in theory he was the one controlling the titans.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

If so, why and how did they zero in on and kilI the elusive Mursaat? Why did they wipe out the Mursaat as opposed to the Grawl or Jotun or something?

Undead Lich: “The Mursaat are being quickly swept away as will all those who stand before my legions.”

Khilbron sent the titans after the mursaat specifically – as well as the major cities and towns of continental Tyria (he lists Lion’s Arch, Thunderhead Keep, Rin, Hakewood, Henge of Denravi, and Ascalon City – Hakewood is the oddball here, since all the others are capitals or major trading outposts while Hakewood is a relatively small town).

Plus, the titans only did a “clean up job” – according to the story journal of Prophecies it was the player character who put the mursaat “in shambles”.

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Posted by: Dinas Dragonbane.2978

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The Mursaat did as much as they could to stop the release of the Titans…so once Khilbron released them…he had them destroy the beings that knew the most about the Titans, the Mursaat. That and I believe it was in the incomplete Flameseeker Prophecies that Khilbron was following(he didn’t know he didn’t know the full one and that he was gonna lose).

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

Lucky.9421

The Mursaat did as much as they could to stop the release of the Titans…so once Khilbron released them…he had them destroy the beings that knew the most about the Titans, the Mursaat. That and I believe it was in the incomplete Flameseeker Prophecies that Khilbron was following(he didn’t know he didn’t know the full one and that he was gonna lose).

But the Mursaat were keeping the Titans from being released to prevent them from destroying them. So the Lich/Titans wanted to destroy them in retaliation for keeping them from being released?

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Maybe this is one of those Hodor time loop type situations?

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Posted by: Sartharina.3542

Sartharina.3542

Sounds to me like:
The Titans want to destroy everything.
The Mursaat were in the most advantageous position to stop the Titans from destroying everything.
The Titans REALLY want to destroy the Mursaat to stop the Mursaat from stopping the Titans from destroying everything.