Guild Wars 2

The future of Tyria after the wars with the Elder dragons is up for debate. What will happen to the “evil” factions among the races of Tyria? Will the eradication of the dragons be enough to disband these antagonizing forces, or will tensions boiling the thinning ice beneath this new found peace among the races eventually erupt into a cataclysm that will forever change Tyria? I believe the latter.
Arguably the most powerful of these antagonists are the Inquest. They have political and technological power as well as the ambition to disregard anything that will slow their progress towards world domination. With enough resources and the right allies, perhaps they could achieve this goal.
If the Inquest cut all ties to the Human race (a soon to be extinct race anyways,) they could make allies with the Flame Legion and any other Charr still harboring hatred for humans. Then using portal technology they could transport Charr armies and their war machines to Divinity’s Reach and Ebonhawke to erase Human leaders and military from existence. This would be an intimidating and provocative opening statement of their intentions for world domination.
Their would be a great backlash as a result of this heinous act, and most likely remaining Asura not affiliated with the Inquest as well as the Sylvari would be first to retaliate. The Norn would be hesitant to involve themselves due to their isolated nature, but I’m sure they would eventually be persuaded to find glory in a battle of this magnitude. The remaining Charr legions would probably readily face the Flame Legion and may actually tip the scale towards the “good guys.” The Hylek and the Quaggan would most likely fight against the Inquest-Flame Legion alliance.
Then with all of Tyria against them, the new Inquest-Flame Legion alliance would need to recruit “lesser” races as allies. The Centaurs would be a no brainer. Due to the eradication of the humans, new lands would be up for the taking and the Centaurs would fight for it regardless, therefor offering these lands to them would win them over. The Nightmare Court would most likely fight along side their fellow Sylvari casting aside their differences in order to defend their race as a whole, but if offered enough power and property they may be persuaded. The Sons of Svanir are iffy. I’m sure they would jump at the chance to gain more power, but killing other Norn and allying with other races (not to mention females) might be deal breakers (I’m on the fence.)
I’m not sure what the other races such as the Dredge, Grawl, Ogres, Tengu, Kodan, Largos, Ascalonian ghosts etc. would do, but in order to win a war of this scale, the Inquest-Flame Legion alliance would need as many armies as possible. Even if they did pull this all off, the fight against the other Charr legions and remaining “good” Asuras may alone be too overwhelming; I think this will come down to which side has the most Charr war machines and Asuran golems and portal access.
Either way, this would be a war on a scale that (I think) Tyria has never seen, and the outcome would shift politics in very interesting ways. Not to mention it would be really fun to be involved in as a player. :-p
So, what do you guys think? Could something like this ever happen? Which races and factions do you think would join which side? If this did happen, what would the outcome be? What about the Elder Dragons? Would it be wise to wait for the dragon wars to end or is it the perfect opportunity for the Inquest- Flame Legion alliance to attack a crippled and distracted Tyria? Anything I missed or got wrong?

First off all, the enemy factions need to start working together. The second thing is that we dealt some sensative blows. The flame legion was nearly dead till Baelfire boosted moral. The inquest lost their leader as well as (one of) their main research facility.

Tengu and Largos are neautral, and Kodan are peacefull as long as there is balance in nature and we dont threathen them. Ascalonian Ghosts, grawl and ogres are mindless creatures that are more animal then sentient beings.

mercury ranique.2170:

First off all, the enemy factions need to start working together. The second thing is that we dealt some sensative blows. The flame legion was nearly dead till Baelfire boosted moral. The inquest lost their leader as well as (one of) their main research facility.

Tengu and Largos are neautral, and Kodan are peacefull as long as there is balance in nature and we dont threathen them. Ascalonian Ghosts, grawl and ogres are mindless creatures that are more animal then sentient beings.

Agreed. The enemy factions will need more than just the Inquest and FL to pull this off. With a charismatic and fearless leader (or two, one for each group) the Inquest and FL would be back in action and ready to recruit. The Tengu and Largos would most likely (imo) stay neutral, and that would probably spare them any attacks from the enemy factions. The Kodan might fight with the good alliance in order to maintain balance in Tyria. The remaining races may be “mindless,” but that only means converting them will be more bargaining than politics. They will also still be good allies to have.

As a pro-human, I don’t think the human race will die out in the future, mainly because the humans have already lived for about thousands of years (Facing complications) and look at where they are right now, still one of the proud races of Tyria!

Cowrex.9564:

As a pro-human, I don’t think the human race will die out in the future, mainly because the humans have already lived for about thousands of years (Facing complications) and look at where they are right now, still one of the proud races of Tyria!

Oh yea and I do not hate the other races if that’s what some of you are thinking. I love the other races too I just prefer being a human character (Because they are more relatable)

Cowrex.9564:

As a pro-human, I don’t think the human race will die out in the future, mainly because the humans have already lived for about thousands of years (Facing complications) and look at where they are right now, still one of the proud races of Tyria!

The humans are definitely to be respected for their accomplishments in the past, but now their alliances are really keeping them afloat. If there wasn’t a treaty between the Charr and the Humans, they could easily be wiped out. If the absence of their gods continues, Human influence in Tyria will diminish. That also raises other good questions about how the six Human gods could intervene, and what kind of impact they could make in the war.

xLiveLucidx.5071:

Cowrex.9564:

As a pro-human, I don’t think the human race will die out in the future, mainly because the humans have already lived for about thousands of years (Facing complications) and look at where they are right now, still one of the proud races of Tyria!

The humans are definitely to be respected for their accomplishments in the past, but now their alliances are really keeping them afloat. If there wasn’t a treaty between the Charr and the Humans, they could easily be wiped out. If the absence of their gods continues, Human influence in Tyria will diminish. That also raises other good questions about how the six Human gods could intervene, and what kind of impact they could make in the war.

Probably bad. Remember how Athena and Ares intervened in the war between the Greeks and Trojans? It did not end up well. Same might go here in this kind of situation

xLiveLucidx.5071:

Arguably the most powerful of these antagonists are the Inquest. They have political and technological power as well as the ambition to disregard anything that will slow their progress towards world domination.

Bandits have more political ties than the Inquest. They got allies in the human Ministry, Inquest, Nightmare Court, and centaurs – possibly the Separatists too. Inquest just have ties in the Arcane Council, Nightmare Court, and bandits. Plus, unlike the bandits, the Inquest were dealt a heavy blow during the events of Crucible of Eternity.

xLiveLucidx.5071:

the Human race (a soon to be extinct race anyways,)

I greatly disagree. You seem to be sold on the notion of what ArenaNet overexagurated about humanity in GW2 – that they’re on the brink of extinction. This is not true at all.

The centaur war has only been losing within the past generation, and same with the corruption of the Ministry which began with Jennah’s father’s death. Furthermore, Cantha is by all indication, under full human rule. They’re far from extinction – they’re just on the lesser end of the stick in continental Tyria, but they’re still fairing much better than 90% of the races there (only being worse off than charr, sylvari, and asura really, with somewhat equal pairing with the norn).

xLiveLucidx.5071:

Then using portal technology they could transport Charr armies and their war machines to Divinity’s Reach and Ebonhawke to erase Human leaders and military from existence.

Except for the fact that asura gates need to be manned on both ends of the gate to create a connection, the humans are also highly defensive about their gates (before the charr peace treaty began, DR’s gate was guarded by a lot of guards – and the Ebonhawke one still is). And furthermore, even if the Inquest were wanting to do this, the other asura wouldn’t stand for it given how they’re wanting more to have other races work for them (and for that matter, this goes for the Inquest too – why eliminate a perfectly good race that can be used for experiments and heavy labor?), plus most of the charr’s heavy machinery is used by the Iron Legion – an ally to humanity – while the Flame Legions’ “siege” weaponry (aka Flame Effigies and Searing Cauldrons) can’t easily fit through the gates due to size.

So such a scenario is highly unlikely to occur, given current states.

xLiveLucidx.5071:

Could something like this ever happen? Which races and factions do you think would join which side? If this did happen, what would the outcome be? What about the Elder Dragons? Would it be wise to wait for the dragon wars to end or is it the perfect opportunity for the Inquest- Flame Legion alliance to attack a crippled and distracted Tyria? Anything I missed or got wrong?

If there was ever a large multi-racial war, the alliances would likely be the Pact versus Bandits(/White Mantle)/Centaurs/Inquest/Nightmare Court/Dredge/Separatists – due to the bandits’ large connections, I cannot see the Inquest just dropping them, and as such you won’t get Flame Legion or Renegades (on the flip side, dredge and Flame Legion are already in an alliance, and the Inquest have worked with dredge before – so long as the Flame Legion doesn’t work with Separatists and bandits/White Mantle, then they may join in as well as the Renegades, though there’d likely to be a lot of internal strife in this alliance); similarly, due to the Sinister Triad’s existence, the Nightmare Court’s influence would likely keep the Sons of Svanir out as the NC are still anti-Elder Dragons (it’s rather odd they work with Inquest, tbh).

Both sides of this war would be anti-Elder Dragon – so you basically create a three-way war going between Pact vs. Sinister Triad and co. vs. Elder Dragons and worshipers (SoS, etc.). And the Elder Dragons themselves are not united either. So unless you’re taking out Elder Dragons before this hypothetical Tyrian War (I can’t call it a world war since it all occurs on one continent), it’s more like a 7-way war.

mercury ranique.2170:

Ascalonian Ghosts, grawl and ogres are mindless creatures that are more animal then sentient beings.

…Grawl and ogres aren’t mindless, and you mean sapient – animals are sentient, and the grawl and ogres are definitely sapient anyways.

TBH, there is no mindless race out there – except the grunts of Elder Dragon armies and the grunt of the Ascalonian ghosts (there are ghosts which seem intelligent in their own right who lead these ghostly armies now – both formerly prominent and not (kind of funny that the Foefire has basically made the Ascalonians into spectral dragon minion mentality…)).

xLiveLucidx.5071:

The humans are definitely to be respected for their accomplishments in the past, but now their alliances are really keeping them afloat. If there wasn’t a treaty between the Charr and the Humans, they could easily be wiped out. If the absence of their gods continues, Human influence in Tyria will diminish. That also raises other good questions about how the six Human gods could intervene, and what kind of impact they could make in the war.

I seriously think you underestimate humanity. Why are you presuming that Ebonhawke, a city fortress that withstood over 200 years of constant bombardment and even an Elder Dragon’s assault, would fall if not for peace talks that has been occuring for less than a year? And even if Ebonhawke fell, Kryta remains – and keep in mind that the Krytans are, without other races’ aid, now pushing the centaurs back (the whole of Harathi Hinterlands’ events).

And even IF Kryta somehow managed to fall – which is extremely unlikely, btw, there’s still Cantha, Elona, and wherever humans came from when initially migrating to Cantha (supposedly a land further south according to Jeff Grubb, and a land across the ocean according to Luxon legends) – the place they were before arriving on the world.

As to the Six Gods’ intervention… well, the last time they were part of a war, the Crystal Sea and its shoreline turned into the Crystal Desert and the Desolation. Though this was a war between the gods themselves. But before that, according to charr stories, the Six Gods did aid humanity in wiping the floor with the charr in taking Ascalon.