Guild Wars 2

So Zhaitan is the big baddie of Guild Wars 2 but I have to say through the whole game I never felt that he was very threatening. You don’t actually get to see him until the very last step of your personal story/Arah story mode. You see plenty of his minions and some of them seem quite intelligent, speaking in full sentences and threatening to send you to oblivion and all that jazz.

So my question is: What is Zhaitan’s beef? Why is he angry/evil? Guess this goes for all of the dragons, but I just felt there was no story behind Zhaitan’s grumpiness.

i don’t know.

why did hurricane Sandy do what it did?

that’s what you’re asking.

The elder dragons and their minions are a force of nature, they don’t have deeper motivations than an ant colony.

The other thing is that zhaitan is the first to go down. I rather think of him as the lesser among the elder dragons.

Why is he evil?
All elder dragons want only one thing – destroy all living things in Tyria. That’s them nature. The dragons are destruction, Traeherne told about that in Personal Storyline. I think there’re no motivations for dragons. They just awoke – destroy the world around them – hibernation again. Some kind reference to glaciations on planet Earth.
That’s lore point of this view.

But – in fact – Zhaitan himself does not be serious threat to feel in game. As a player I know “there’s a very very big bad drake in the deep of ancient peninsula”, but do not feel fear about him, until I realy confront dragon.

BrunoBRS.5178:

i don’t know.

why did hurricane Sandy do what it did?

that’s what you’re asking.

Well… if a hurricane had minions who could speak English, sure. Zhaitan has minions who are obviously intelligent and have conversations with the PC. It seems if Zhaitan’s minions are capable of intelligence, so should Zhaitan be.

And destroying the world is pretty hefty and evil, and not really natural. Lions don’t wake up and say “LETS KILL EVERYTHING ON THE SAVANNAH” they just try to satisfied a basic need: hunger.

So what is driving Zhaitan’s desire to destroy the world? Hope that makes sense!

JNetRocks.3652:

BrunoBRS.5178:

i don’t know.

why did hurricane Sandy do what it did?

that’s what you’re asking.

Well… if a hurricane had minions who could speak English, sure. Zhaitan has minions who are obviously intelligent and have conversations with the PC. It seems if Zhaitan’s minions are capable of intelligence, so should Zhaitan be.

And destroying the world is pretty hefty and evil, and not really natural. Lions don’t wake up and say “LETS KILL EVERYTHING ON THE SAVANNAH” they just try to satisfied a basic need: hunger.

So what is driving Zhaitan’s desire to destroy the world? Hope that makes sense!

Well, locusts wake up and say “LETS EAT EVERYTHING” It’s something like that. Zhaitan woke up an said “LET’S TURN EVERYTHING UNDEAD, LET’S EAT ALL THE MAGIC”

JNetRocks.3652:

BrunoBRS.5178:

i don’t know.

why did hurricane Sandy do what it did?

that’s what you’re asking.

Well… if a hurricane had minions who could speak English, sure. Zhaitan has minions who are obviously intelligent and have conversations with the PC. It seems if Zhaitan’s minions are capable of intelligence, so should Zhaitan be.

And destroying the world is pretty hefty and evil, and not really natural. Lions don’t wake up and say “LETS KILL EVERYTHING ON THE SAVANNAH” they just try to satisfied a basic need: hunger.

So what is driving Zhaitan’s desire to destroy the world? Hope that makes sense!

it’s a hard concept to grasp, but the elder dragons aren’t really animals. they’re beings of destruction. they feed on the world and destroy everything on their path (quite literally if you look at the brand). they don’t have a reason behind it. they’re not being evil. they’re just being.

much like a giant meteor coming towards earth would destroy the planet, but the metor isn’t “evil”.

I’d assume it’s just like your example, they’re lions
They hunger for magic, and so when they’re not sleeping for millenia, they’re destroying/eating.
And I think that the Champions are kinda made out to be smarter than the Dragons, somehow the Dragons give will/intelligence to the Champions and act as PR kinda

I firmly believe that Zhaitan only wants to restore Tyria’s natural gravity

While i agree that the Dragon’s are beings of destruction, that it’s simply part of their make up, it would be wrong to assume that they are just automatic robots of chaos. Jormag for one does his business through whispers and deceit, i’d love to see more of Jormag in future expansions as he seems the most intelligent of the Dragons.

I do agree also that the awe of Zhaitan is a little lacking, maybe it would of been an idea to see him wipe out a town or city at the beginning of the game (not one that was intended to be used in game) just to get over the fact of how powerful he is through the character’s eyes.

The dragons want to consume magic, the more the better. Dragons achieve this with their minions, Zaitan’s minions are the undead. The more minions he has the more can bring magical artifacts and stuff to his mouths.

Ludovicus.7980:

I firmly believe that Zhaitan only wants to restore Tyria’s natural gravity

or lower the sea level by getting rid of all that crap we sunk to the bottom of the ocean (ships, continents, ancient gods, that kind of stuff).

Jelle.2807:

The dragons want to consume magic, the more the better. Dragons achieve this with their minions, Zaitan’s minions are the undead. The more minions he has the more can bring magical artifacts and stuff to his mouths.

Yeah I played through the story and there is part about the Mouth of Zhaitan trying to consume the magic, etc. I wasn’t sure if there was anything deeper behind their lust for magical artifacts, etc.

Thanks for the replies guys! I’m going to go with my original thoughts – they’re just sorta pissed off for no real good reason. :P

I recall ANET stating in an interview somewhere that the true motivations of the dragons are a spoiler for later acts, and that they’re more than a “force of nature”.

Kain Francois.4328:

I recall ANET stating in an interview somewhere that the true motivations of the dragons are a spoiler for later acts, and that they’re more than a “force of nature”.

^ Ya this…

Act 1 so far is only Chapter 1 of the story so the Personal Story is meant to feel incomplete because Act 1 set the stage of GW2 storyline.

-The founding of the Pact which will be playing the large role GW2 story as the Anti-Elder Dragon force all characters from all over the world will end up joining.

-Who is the Leader of the Pact and how did he become the leader.

-The re-unity of Destiny Edge who are the True Main Characters of GW2.

-What lead to the founding of the Pact seen through our character point of view in the story (AKA Personal Story)