Guild Wars 2

i found this pic on internet and it says Eir ??
maby in her younger years

this pic have somewhat a sad thing to it
it seems she want to go to that area that is in flames

and the kodan try to stop her from going there
so maby her friends ore families are there ??

That is used as a loading screen for Snowdon drifts. During the Norn personal story you have Eir as your mentor and some chapters involve the Kodan, so this art is appropriate for that.

The picture probably shows the slaughter of the owl. Jormag killed one spirit of the wyld which is represented in Sowden Drifts south-east corner. Owl’s Abattoir

Most concept art doesn’t reflect actual lore events. It’s just a tool to develop the appearance of creatures and environments. In this particular case that’s even more true, since iirc in the personal story Eir says she hasn’t had much experience with the kodan.

As Aaron said, most concept art don’t reflect the actual lore, but are there to develop appearances.

This particular picture is just one of two kodan pictures that compare kodan and norn together. And that is an earlier rendition of Eir, supposedly.

If that’s meant to be Eir though, that kodan is HUGE. O.o In-game, the kodan aren’t much bigger than the Norn.

Aren’t bigger at all, really. My necro is eye level with kodan, and he’s of middling height. I think a bear form norn is actually bigger, though I haven’t tested it.

Just goes to reinforce that concept art isn’t at all a reliable thing to base ideas on.

thx so much for the info
and yes i remember there was a owl spirit

so there suppose to be 5 main spirits back then ??

and why Eir is so small in that pic is maby she was stil very very young ?
Eir is now around 80 years old

Used to have many more Norn spirits, but several main and secondary spirits died after the rise of Jormag. Owl in special was the one that told the norns to retreat the fight against Jormag and move to southern areas to try a better approach later, but ended dying during the retreat.

In Hoelbrack you find an area dedicated to the fallen Owl, Ox and Wolverine spirits.

Zaxares.5419:

If that’s meant to be Eir though, that kodan is HUGE. O.o In-game, the kodan aren’t much bigger than the Norn.

Kodan are on average 9 feet, norn can range between 6 and 9. So Eir would hve been a “short” norn back then – or this was before the average size of kodan was determined.

Genlog.4983:

thx so much for the info
and yes i remember there was a owl spirit

so there suppose to be 5 main spirits back then ??

and why Eir is so small in that pic is maby she was stil very very young ?
Eir is now around 80 years old

In GW1, Owl was meant to be amongst the main spirits – back then, there were only 3 (Raven, Wolf, Bear; I think Owl was meant to be in Raven’s place). Now, there’s 4 though Owl is highly known due to being the only “dead” Spirit of the Wild. There are many, many Spirits of the Wild and they’re only “main” because of being the four most commonly revered rather than any actual power or knowledge of – though of the non-main Spirits, only Owl has a lodge. The other spirits include Eagle, Ox (sometimes called Dolyak), Wolverine, Minotaur, Wurm, Griffon, Hare, Gorilla, and Otter – there may be more Spirits of the Wild, but we don’t know of their existence.

That being Owl Form is purely theoretical based on appearance, since it doesn’t really look “raven” like to me.

Eir’s age isn’t said anywhere, but there were hints at least during BWE (they seem to have been removed so maybe no longer canon?) saying that she was a child when Hoelbrak was being built – which would have been ~100-150 years ago, placing her to be amongst the oldest norn in modern times, though this likely changed for Braham’s plot (wouldn’t make sense for a 100 year old norn to have a 17 year old son, right? Especially since she apparently had a lot of potential before her when Braham was born, indicating youth back then.)

Belzebu.3912:

Used to have many more Norn spirits, but several main and secondary spirits died after the rise of Jormag. Owl in special was the one that told the norns to retreat the fight against Jormag and move to southern areas to try a better approach later, but ended dying during the retreat.

In Hoelbrack you find an area dedicated to the fallen Owl, Ox and Wolverine spirits.

Owl, Ox, Wolverine, and Eagle all fought Jormag. However, only Owl is known to be dead. No “main” spirit died after the rise of Jormag – Raven, Wolf, Bear, and Snow Leopard are only “main” spirits because they’re the ones who guided norn south and communicate the most with the norn in modern times.

The fate of Ox, Wolverine, and Eagle are unknown. And it’s just as unknown – likely a design oversight – for why Eagle isn’t amongst the Lost Spirits’s Shrine in Hoelbrak.

I do not really get how that could be Eir, but Wiki seems to confirmed it. I’ve seen another picture of the same picture above, with ’Eir’s bow aswell instead of her sword.
And awwwhh, all those thing you said about the Owl’s spirit. That’s just sad.

that ar5 se tho. >:) grawr