shipping in a new building for Lion's Arch
Well most of the buildings in Lion’s Arch were made out of ships, so… :P
You don’t win friends with salad! Sorry I just got caught up in the rhythm.
Later in the conversation he says Lion’s Arch will be a completly different place when they are done, so i don’t think they will use a ship. besides based on the concept art on https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/lions-arch-construction-nears-completion-new-player-poll-announced/ it looks like new LA will be based more on stone while old LA was pretty much just wood.
That seems to be a thing all over the city- the Consortium are building them offsite and will airlift them in. As for the old gate plaza specifically… maybe that’s where the new memorial will be? Or maybe part of the docks- it looks like new wharves are being constructed under it.
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while old LA was pretty much just wood.
Isn’t that more “Old New LA”? lol
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Ah, I didn’t hear that near the portals. But on Deverol Island (now devoid of buildings) two NPC’s discuss how a chapel is being built elsewhere and is getting airlifted in when it’s ready.
I suppose this is how they will make the sudden mushrooming of structures canon when it happens. I wonder if we’ll get to see cutscenes of the airlifts?
You can see an airship carrying a piece of building close to the city’s main entrance.
There are actually quite a few airships hauling things around the city. Unless I was seeing the same one from various angles.
I don’t think it’s part of a building. It looks like a section of the retaining walls they’ve put up.
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Has anyone noted if there’s any change to NPC chatter outside LA? That’s always been a big disappointment for me, how huge world changes don’t affect the gossip anywhere else. I’d love to find some other city NPCs commenting on it. They could be considering heading to get construction jobs, or happy the caravans might be showing up again, high mucky mucks could be talking about the rebirth of trade, anything.
There are changes to the dialogue of NPCs in the refugee camps at each of the order locations (in Gendarren Fields, just outside the Priory and in the camp in Bloodtide Coast). Just vague references to things changing soon.
I hope the majority of the new structures are not being airlifted in – it seems like a cheesy way to explain buildings appearing overnight. I also hope the Consortium aren’t as instrumental to the rebuilding as they are hinted to be in this update. Lion’s Arch was the trade capital of modern Tyria, if any city in Tyria had the skilled workers with the resources and trade contacts to rebuild after an attack, it’s Lion’s Arch. After more than a year with little to do, I have to wonder what the citizens of Lion’s Arch have been up to if the rebuilding was outsourced to the Consortium. The Lion’s Arch built by Cobiah Marriner was heavily rooted in the hard work and ingenuity of its citizens. It would be disappointing to see the new Lion’s Arch credited to the Consortium simply to give them a plot hook back into the story.
Agreed. I myself did like the style of the old GW2 Lion’s Arch, both the physical architecture and the culture, and I hope it doesn’t get overtaken by the Consortium.
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Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like making in-universe sense is a priority for the rebuilding. Consider that one of the two inns that survived the attack was torn down to make room for some new guild thing, or that Deverol’s family property has been seized for a chapel and all she says on the matter is that the airlift idea is unconventional.
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Well, in regards to Deverol Island, they could add in dialogue about the family donating the land specifically for the chapel. My family did something very similar with our own land.
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Not the land they lived on though, I bet. Still, I’d be fine with that, just so long as we got an acknowledgement that this sort of thing doesn’t just happen without a reason.
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Well, there could be the possibility that they couldn’t use the land as it once was, perhaps their farm was rendered sterile following the attack. While ash does help things grow, as Eve used to say in gw1, fire will sterilize instead. Or something similar that left them unable or no longer needing to use their property and they wanted the land to go to something important to them, like a chapel to their gods. Again, similar to what my family did.
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I really like the change to a more defensive city. One of the most important things to me (lore wise) is to feel that I’m part of a real universe when playing.
For that feeling to exist, it’s absolutely necessary that the world reacts to the world around them. The lack of such has been one of the biggest complaints raging around here on the forums.
As for maintaining historical and cultural heritage: old LA had a much more defensive feel than new LA, so if anything: this is respecting heritage. I’d love to see a reconstruction of the old LA’s fountain and the stairs/entrance to the old keep though.
Let the Kings and Queens of other lands and lesser creatures
witness our wonders and cry out in astonishment and humble themselves.
Beware our mighty works.
witness our wonders and cry out in astonishment and humble themselves.
Beware our mighty works.
@Shiren: just to clarify what I meant with reconstruction of old LA’s fountain. I didn’t mean that I wanted to raise old LA. Its ruins are submerged under water, and there they should remain.
But I’d love to see a copy of the old fountain in one of the new LA’s city squares. Just as a simple homage/memorial to LA prior to Zhaitan’s rise. Perhaps with a New Krytan plaque on it: “In remembrance of Lion’s Arch prior to the flood in 1219AE”.
As for defensive structures. Yes, I know new LA was said to have been built with defense in mind, but – except for Claw Island – that’s just on paper. I hope the new version both looks and feels more realistic in that respect.
Let the Kings and Queens of other lands and lesser creatures
witness our wonders and cry out in astonishment and humble themselves.
Beware our mighty works.
witness our wonders and cry out in astonishment and humble themselves.
Beware our mighty works.
That seems to be a thing all over the city- the Consortium are building them offsite and will airlift them in.
Am I the only one finding this new found faith in the Consortium disturbing?
Has anyone noted if there’s any change to NPC chatter outside LA? That’s always been a big disappointment for me, how huge world changes don’t affect the gossip anywhere else. I’d love to find some other city NPCs commenting on it.
Think it’s a matter of time and effort versus visibility. It would be nice if they did this, but 90% of the playerbase wouldn’t even notice.
That seems to be a thing all over the city- the Consortium are building them offsite and will airlift them in.
Am I the only one finding this new found faith in the Consortium disturbing?
It does seem like a very abrupt about-face, but it’s probably worth acknowledging that aside from the karka incident their only crime has been to seem really shady. Kiel, maybe Magnus, might hold a grudge, but the rest of the council has never seemed concerned by them.
On the topic of defensibility- Lion’s Arch v.2 was built solely with defense from fleets in mind. The rubble in the harbor and the artillery at Claw Island and Fort Marriner wouldn’t have meant anything to the krait, and the other two invasion fronts didn’t even pass that way. They had, what, one or two airships to contest the whole Aetherblade fleet, and I’m not even sure how one would go about fortifying against dredge. Then, of course, there was the miasma. It’s not at all hard to believe that Lion’s Arch lost in the state it was in. That it was allowed to remain unprepared is another matter, though…
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@Shiren: just to clarify what I meant with reconstruction of old LA’s fountain. I didn’t mean that I wanted to raise old LA. Its ruins are submerged under water, and there they should remain.
Huh. I was actually thinking about that in regards to the thread asking what we’d like to see the new city look like. I had thought it might be neat if with all this lifting power provided by the airships and all the building out of platforms and docks that maybe the old plaza could be raised. It could sit on a little Tyrian-made island ("man"made doesn’t work here) as a memorial to the original city. (Note I have barely played GW1 and thus have no particular personal attachment as to its lands and customs).
Though I don’t know what happens to stone and marble submerged in salt water for centuries when it’s suddenly exposed to air and sun again.