Guild Wars 2

Well, not a wizard…Scarlet. Scarlet did it.

Why did the Dredge and the Flame Legion band together? Scarlet did it.
Who are these Sky Pirates and why are they raiding Tyria? Scarlet did it.
Who assassinated the member of the Captain’s Council? Scarlet did it.
Who ruined the Queen’s Jubilee? Scarlet did it.
What happened to Twilight Arbor? Scarlet did it.
Why have the Elder Dragons abandoned their goal of destroying the world? Scarlet did it.
Why did the Thaumanova Reactor meltdown? At this point, would it shock anyone if Scarlet did it?

I don’t like that this one antagonist has become an omni-villain, the driving force behind every obstacle presented to the main characters. This is compounded by A. the apparent lack of any motivation behind her actions, B. the fact that she’s upstaged a group of all-powerful dragons bent on world destruction, and C. the fact that she has an unbelievable influence/power that gives her the ability to do whatever she wants.

If she is going to be the main villain of this game going forward, at least flesh her out give her more depth than a cardboard cutout. Tell the players why they should look at her as anything other than a Saturday morning cartoon villain, and do it in game. Not on a website…not in a novel…in the game.

Hardly. Plus, she’s only been visible for one living story so far. I suggest some patience before passing judgement. Also, less hyperbole.

DaShi.1368:

Hardly.

Hardly what? What part of my post are you disputing?

DaShi.1368:

I suggest some patience before passing judgement.

I think I have more than enough evidence on Scarlet – and the Living Story as a whole – to pass judgment, thanks.

darkace.8925:

DaShi.1368:

I suggest some patience before passing judgement.

I think I have more than enough evidence on Scarlet – and the Living Story as a whole – to pass judgment, thanks.

Don’t think you do. Passing judgement at this point would be premature. If it were a court case, it would be a flagrant violation of defendant rights.

The Living Story is just starting to become interesting. furthermore, Scarlet had absolutely nothing to do with the Zephyrites, Tequatl and SAB.

If you don’t like the Living Story, don’t play it. There’s at least 3 full games outside of it (regular PVE, WvW and sPVP) none of which are affected by Scarlet.

marnick.4305:

Don’t think you do. Passing judgement at this point would be premature. If it were a court case, it would be a flagrant violation of defendant rights.

Something tells me you wouldn’t have said that if I were praising the Living Story. But since I’m criticizing it, somehow I’m out of line? Yeah…

marnick.4305:

The Living Story is just starting to become interesting. furthermore, Scarlet had absolutely nothing to do with the Zephyrites, Tequatl and SAB.

“Interesting” is a matter of subjectivity. Where you find Scarlet interesting, I find her dull and trite. And to say Scarlet had absolutely nothing to do with the Zephyrites is false. The Sky Pirate were very much a part of that Living Story chapter, and as we all know the Sky Pirates are nothing more than Scarlet’s minions.

marnick.4305:

If you don’t like the Living Story, don’t play it. There’s at least 3 full games outside of it (regular PVE, WvW and sPVP) none of which are affected by Scarlet.

“If you don’t like it, don’t play it.” I see this come up often. So say a player has accomplished everything he’s set out to do in PvE (100% map exploration, completed Personal Story, desired weapon and armor skins obtained, etc) and they’re waiting for more content in that vein. They don’t care for either incarnation of player vs player, and they hate the kind of content delivered via the Living Story. Your advice to them is “don’t play it.”

That might be good advice IF the developers weren’t pouring every resource into more Living Story content. But since they are, that leaves the player with nothing new to look forward, and nothing old that still holds their interest. So when you say “If you don’t like it, don’t play it,” you’re essentially saying “go find another game to play.” Is that really the kind of advice you want to give someone who greatly enjoyed the game?

darkace.8925:

marnick.4305:

Don’t think you do. Passing judgement at this point would be premature. If it were a court case, it would be a flagrant violation of defendant rights.

Something tells me you wouldn’t have said that if I were praising the Living Story. But since I’m criticizing it, somehow I’m out of line? Yeah…

I’m not calling it perfect either. But to pass harsh judgement at this point … not really my thing. You’re merely out of line because you claim to know everything. That’s all.

However, I can agree with specific criticism. If, for example, you complained about the meaning of the Volunteer title, while miniature set II doesn’t have any, I’d agree.

marnick.4305:

The Living Story is just starting to become interesting. furthermore, Scarlet had absolutely nothing to do with the Zephyrites, Tequatl and SAB.

“Interesting” is a matter of subjectivity. Where you find Scarlet interesting, I find her dull and trite. And to say Scarlet had absolutely nothing to do with the Zephyrites is false. The Sky Pirate were very much a part of that Living Story chapter, and as we all know the Sky Pirates are nothing more than Scarlet’s minions.

Indeed we can debate whether or not Scarlet is interesting until the thread has a million replies. I will pass full judgement on Scarlet once the story is finished and she’s dead. My current opinion is that I like her. She’s a dull and trite as the Joker, which is one of the best villains of all time.

marnick.4305:

If you don’t like the Living Story, don’t play it. There’s at least 3 full games outside of it (regular PVE, WvW and sPVP) none of which are affected by Scarlet.

“If you don’t like it, don’t play it.” I see this come up often. So say a player has accomplished everything he’s set out to do in PvE (100% map exploration, completed Personal Story, desired weapon and armor skins obtained, etc) and they’re waiting for more content in that vein. They don’t care for either incarnation of player vs player, and they hate the kind of content delivered via the Living Story. Your advice to them is “don’t play it.”

The game does not have a subscription fee. The advice is entirely valid.

That might be good advice IF the developers weren’t pouring every resource into more Living Story content. But since they are, that leaves the player with nothing new to look forward, and nothing old that still holds their interest. So when you say “If you don’t like it, don’t play it,” you’re essentially saying “go find another game to play.” Is that really the kind of advice you want to give someone who greatly enjoyed the game?

Get your facts straight. Living Story is a rather small team in the company called Arena.net. There’s stuff happening, big stuff. That’s a public secret.

My advice isn’t to go find another game to play but rather: Go find another game to play for the time being. I personally love the game, but at times I want to do other things. Read a book, dust off a classic, play a kickstarter game. That’s not something to be ashamed of. In fact, it’s very normal. And guess what … GW2 does not have a sub fee. Once there’s content you like again, feel free to come back. Halloween is just around the corner.

marnick.4305:

I will pass full judgement on Scarlet once the story is finished and she’s dead.

That is not dead which can eternal “Die, die, die!” and with living story even devs may cry.

Scarlet kicked my puppy. True story.

Seriously though, I’ll be upset if everything ever is blamed on her from this point on.

ever seen highlander ?..then watched highlander 2…then 3…remind you of anything?