Bloodstone Event and why it's a failure

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

with 150 people we’re hunting down the arctodus, everyone spread out over the map, hunting them down, killing them by the dozens. At some point we start to question.. is the thing even ever gonna spawn. Then some people start mumbling ‘maybe it won’t respawn after all’

So here are the gripes of the event:

  1. Effort to find an active map
  2. No indication of progress
  3. No indication of fruitfullness

First you have to be on a map with plenty of other people to hunt down the beasts. Thats doable now, but later, maybe not so much, we don’t know how it scales.
Secondly, you don’t know how many more you have to kill, without an indication, maybe people start to leave the event area after a few kills thinking it already happened, or maybe bugged out, and after they leave the mob spawns, woe them.
And thirdly, we don’t even know if the mobs can respawn, if they don’t, whether or not they’ve already been killed.

TLDR; there are no indications whether or not you’re making progress at all, nor how much.

Suggestion: Add an orange map-event box to these zones (when its time) in which a progress icon is displayed:

  • The BSC Shark is resting, it does not seem agitated.
  • The BSC Shark is aware of the hunt, its getting anxious
  • The BSC Shark is extremely agitated, it may pop up pick out unwary travelers, beware!

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Posted by: Korval.3751

Korval.3751

Achievements determine your progress, and at any point, you can decide you’ve completed the map.

Events can be tracked on a number of sites. For example, http://gw2timer.com/

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

Achievements determine your progress, and at any point, you can decide you’ve completed the map.

Events can be tracked on a number of sites. For example, http://gw2timer.com/

That was not my point, albeit thank you for the link, i didn’t know of that website that.
The problem is, you don’t know if a map can respawn a bloodstone crazed mob, and if it can’t, how do you know it wasn’t alreadu killed before, nor how do you know how much you have left to kill before it spawns.
Also, I fail to understand why you bring up achievements. That has nothing to do with the current Bloodstone Crazed ‘current event’, there are no achievements that help you keep track on the Current Event event statuses, nor any other event status for that matter. all you have is a machine that tells you which zones are currently active, thats all.

Also, your link does display the sliver routes, but I can’t seem to find anything about the BSC monsters on it.. it seems stuck on the leyline anomaly guide

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Posted by: Taxidriver.2043

Taxidriver.2043

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

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Posted by: Korval.3751

Korval.3751

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Hey. Come on. Be nice. Perhaps, my reply did not specifically address the concerns expressed, but Amaimon did provide valid points. I do agree that when the map’s crowds die down, Anet should adjust the difficulty so that a smaller group can complete many of its objectives and achievements.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Perhaps, the new feature in the latest patch will help.

Good luck.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

Thanks for the headsup, but it doesn’t work (yet), the device still displays the moa on a map that’s killed the moa already.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

So I’ve read. Still, once it works, or players understand how it works (should it be working, but obscure), it should be helpful. =)

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Posted by: James Quall.6029

James Quall.6029

I’ve always said that good content should encourage sitting around for hours waiting. If the fights were more frequent they just wouldn’t be as rewarding or fun.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

The device works now,
@James Quall, you radiate sarcasm, intentionally or not

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Posted by: LadyRhonwyn.2501

LadyRhonwyn.2501

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

And how does it indicate that?

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

And how does it indicate that?

If your camera angle is just so, when you’re on a map with a dead target, there’s a big red … NO.NO.NO symbol (maybe it’s an X? a universal anti sign? a cosmic auntie sign? i dunno; it’s obvious that it’s not the same as the other ‘minis’)

So the updated functionality is much better… and still not very useful or easy to use.

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

And how does it indicate that?

If your camera angle is just so, when you’re on a map with a dead target, there’s a big red … NO.NO.NO symbol (maybe it’s an X? a universal anti sign? a cosmic auntie sign? i dunno; it’s obvious that it’s not the same as the other ‘minis’)

So the updated functionality is much better… and still not very useful or easy to use.

Its the downed hostile icon, you see in pvp or when you down a toxic court.

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Posted by: hardy.7469

hardy.7469

I found it one of the better recent events things because the reward was actually decent and it wasn’t utterly boring to do, save for waiting for the bosses you want, but what part of this game doesn’t involve pointless waiting. lol

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

so its a failure b/c u didnt get it done on the first day? lol. Plenty of us have done it already, maybe raid is a failure too consider how many ppl cant get past first boss.

Amazing how times a whole story can go 10,000 miles over someone’s head.
I’ll put it in laymen’s terms for you:
The problem is that you don’t know if it’s still gonna spawn. How do you know you’re (not) on a map that has(n’t) already killed it before you arrived. We don’t know if it the beast can respawn, so who is gonna put in the effort if they don’t even know the BSC mob can even spawn on that map

Again, from the patch notes:

Current Events: Levvi’s Device has been updated to indicate when a legendary bloodstone-crazed creature has recently been killed in the map.

And how does it indicate that?

If your camera angle is just so, when you’re on a map with a dead target, there’s a big red … NO.NO.NO symbol (maybe it’s an X? a universal anti sign? a cosmic auntie sign? i dunno; it’s obvious that it’s not the same as the other ‘minis’)

So the updated functionality is much better… and still not very useful or easy to use.

Its the downed hostile icon, you see in pvp or when you down a toxic court.

Wow, I must never have seen the entire icon, because I never caught the similarity. (It looked familiar, but as you can see from my quote, I couldn’t place it.)

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: LadyRhonwyn.2501

LadyRhonwyn.2501

Its the downed hostile icon, you see in pvp or when you down a toxic court.

Wow, I must never have seen the entire icon, because I never caught the similarity. (It looked familiar, but as you can see from my quote, I couldn’t place it.)

Now that it’s mentioned, yes, it’s that icon… Problem is, you hardly ever see it, as you have to click that device from your storage and then your storage page is blocking the view… Which is why it took me till Friday or so to even see that something actually showed… (I always wondered if mine was broken…)

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Posted by: Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Zoltar MacRoth.7146

Another fine piece of Acme.. I mean, Anet tech.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

DarcShriek.5829

So I just did the events last night. The events were fine, however the device was useless to me. I had a difficult time trying to figure out what the device was telling me. Luckily, the community was helpful and I was able to follow the crowd to get the events.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

Its the downed hostile icon, you see in pvp or when you down a toxic court.

Wow, I must never have seen the entire icon, because I never caught the similarity. (It looked familiar, but as you can see from my quote, I couldn’t place it.)

Now that it’s mentioned, yes, it’s that icon… Problem is, you hardly ever see it, as you have to click that device from your storage and then your storage page is blocking the view… Which is why it took me till Friday or so to even see that something actually showed… (I always wondered if mine was broken…)

If you don’t pvp, the only times you’ll ever see the icon is if you kill courtiers in Kessex Hills. (god I miss those times), kinda sad they discontinued that mechanic. I think it would really add a new depth to some fights if they added downed state.

Fight a white mantle group, down one guy, focus on another, then return to finish guy one off but.. BOOM, he’s been helped up by a buddy