Guild Wars 2

I see so many people jumping on the bandwagon to complain and/or speculate negatively about the upcoming update to Guild Wars 2. Here are a few things brought up that I think are absolutely ludicrous and need to be addressed.

1. “Charr personal story would need a re-write!”

No, no it wouldn’t. ArenaNet has already said the living world takes place after the personal story. Sure, the world might change, but the personal story doesn’t need to change at all, since it takes place in 1325 AE, 2 years before the ghosts are in-fact released from their curse (1327 AE).

2. “He’s not the rightful king of Ascalon!” (referring to Rytlock)

Uh, your point? The trailer doesn’t show him succeeding or failing, so why jump on the bandwagon and complain about something that we don’t even know is correct or not? And even if he does succeed, you realize “Rightful king of Ascalon” doesn’t necessarily mean a descendant of Doric, right? It can be symbolic too, and that sort of trope tends to be so in a lot of literature.

3. “This is part 1 of the season finale!”

Wait what? Are you kidding? To think they would wrap up Season 2 ten times more quickly than Season 1 seems ridiculous. Season 1 lasted over a year. It started in January of 2013 and ended in March of 2014, and that’s only if you don’t count the first three events that came out in October, November, and December of 2012 respectively. (Remember the Lost Shores? Anyone? Yes? No? Karka invasion, guys? Southsun Cove revealed? Lion’s Arch Lighthouse destroyed? Huh… now I feel old.)

4. “There will be a new Ascalonian Catacombs path!”

Source? No, you don’t have one? Because to me, that looked like the area you go to to kill Duke Barradin’s statue in the charr tutorial instance. It looked nothing like Ascalonian Catacombs, and the entrance to the place is a dead giveaway, imo. I could be wrong, but I just felt like pointing that out.

5. Final Notes

Do keep in mind that, while I am also slightly skeptical of the patch, it seems stupid to just jump on the bandwagon of complaining for something that we know very little about to begin with. There’s a whole host of plotlines that are possible. The Pale Tree, Rox/Rytlock and Braham/Eir, and more. We even saw Icebrood. Sounds exciting to me, at least. But I don’t claim to know what’s going to happen.

Sorann, I agree with you on all points… People are blowing this out of proportion, but that’s the nature of these forums…
If Anet added a machine to the game that spit out money, people would kitten about it not sorting that money into numerical order first.

I agree with you on all of this. For the second point… people NEED to keep in mind that Ascalon was ORIGINALLY charr territory so a rightful king to it would most likely be a charr. And to add onto your 3rd point…. IIRC in the first living season, the Flame and Frost part of the story was in 4 parts. Just cause this is part one of possible just two doesn’t mean were anywhere near then end of this season.

The Devs stated before Season Two even started that with this Season the intermittent story arcs would be wrapped up within a few releases. That each of these smaller arcs would be part of the larger overall story for Season Two. So that the story presentation did not seem so fragmented with Holiday breaks and Feature Patches, etc.

I am positive that we are nowhere near the end of Season Two.

I want to add on to this because I just watched a WoodenPotatoes video about the subject. To the people complaining about Rytlock being the one to “supposedly” free the ghosts from their curse, WoodenPotatoes pointed something out that I noticed too, which is that the scene takes place in Duke Barradin’s lair.

I didn’t manage to extrapolate anything past that but WoodenPotatoes did! He went into the story of how when the king before Adelbern was king died, Barradin was slated to be the next king. However, the Ascalonian people felt that Adelbern would be a better king so they crowned him instead.

Technically, Adelbern isn’t the rightful heir of Ascalon, but Barradin is. As an aside, he also pointed out Althea was to marry Rurik, and since Althea was Barradin’s daughter and Rurik was Adelbern’s son, the bloodline would go back to normal anyway. However, Althea died in the charr invasion and Rurik died at the hands of the Stone Summit while crossing the Shiverpeaks with other Ascalonian refugees shortly after the Searing.

The fact that Rytlock is doing this in Barradin’s Lair makes me wonder. Like WoodenPotatoes said, what if he’s merely calling on the spirit of Duke Barradin to free the ghosts, and Rytlock himself isn’t the one who actually does it?

Sorann Peace.9056:

Rurik was Adelbern’s daughter

Though I do not agree on that statement,
Baradin was fine with Adelbern being king and Adelbern is a decendant of Doric.

As someone who did not play Guild Wars, thus having no prior knowledge about the true or rightful heir of Ascalon being the one to lift the curse, all I saw was Rytlock attempting to lift the curse.

We do not know if he succeeds or not. After having seen the WP video it seems most likely that he is beseeching the spirit of Baradin to do it for him.
I`m probably more interested in seeing what leads him to do this now, whereas previously he did not want anyone, especially Eir, riling up the ghosts of Ascalon.

JerryMain.4371:

Sorann Peace.9056:

Rurik was Adelbern’s daughter

Though I do not agree on that statement,
Baradin was fine with Adelbern being king and Adelbern is a decendant of Doric.

WOOPS! I fixed it, my bad. Meant to say son, not daughter….

Janderson.4670:

people NEED to keep in mind that Ascalon was ORIGINALLY charr territory so a rightful king to it would most likely be a charr.

No. I don’t subscribe to that retconned lore. That only came about when they decided to make charr a playable race. Us Ascalonian humans are once again getting shafted by this game and Anet.

I know people are going a bit overboard on speculation, but I think it’s great that season 2 is capturing people’s imagination the way season 1 didn’t. I know there was a lot of speculation, but people seem to be excited about season 2. I know I am.

Stramatus.5219:

Janderson.4670:

people NEED to keep in mind that Ascalon was ORIGINALLY charr territory so a rightful king to it would most likely be a charr.

No. I don’t subscribe to that retconned lore. That only came about when they decided to make charr a playable race. Us Ascalonian humans are once again getting shafted by this game and Anet.

You do know that Anet had intended as such as far back as EotN, right? It’s why the whole Pyre Fierceshot storyline existed.

Ariella Goldstein.3562:

Stramatus.5219:

Janderson.4670:

people NEED to keep in mind that Ascalon was ORIGINALLY charr territory so a rightful king to it would most likely be a charr.

No. I don’t subscribe to that retconned lore. That only came about when they decided to make charr a playable race. Us Ascalonian humans are once again getting shafted by this game and Anet.

You do know that Anet had intended as such as far back as EotN, right? It’s why the whole Pyre Fierceshot storyline existed.

While that is true, ArenaNet also planned for charr to be a playable race as far back as Eye of the North too. The reason Eye of the North was created was as a prelude to Guild Wars 2. It’s why it introduces the norn, asura, and sylvari all in one go, and has a Hall of Monuments that allows you to get rewards for Guild Wars 2.

In-fact, near the end of Eye of the North, there’s a cinematic where Ogden Stonehealer talks about events that would happen in Guild Wars 2 such as “New heroes would rise.” and “A new race would be born.” One refers to the player character and his allies in the story of Guild Wars 2, the other to sylvari. And that’s just a snippet of the cinematic, there was a lot more allusion to Gw2’s story in it as well.

In-fact, if you go to the Guild Wars 1 website, and go to the product page of EotN it says “Forge your legacy now for Guild Wars 2!”

Originally, the next campaign for Guild Wars 1 was supposed to be Utopia, but they scrapped it and opted for a sequel, and used Eye of the North and the Guild Wars: Beyond events as preludes to said sequel.