Guild Wars 2

I keep seeing more people claim that Glint’s offspring has been hidden inside the Zephyrite ship. Although this sounds really interesting, I would like to know if there’s any evidence supporting this or if it’s just a wild guess.

Anyone willing to clarify?

Well, the new audio files put up by ArenaNet certainly seem to point towards it, as we already know they /have/ glint’s baby. The glint’s baby thing is old lore from the last time the bazaar was around, the speculation on the other hand is whether that was what the saboteurs were after.

The legacy of the brotherhood of the dragon is mentioned somewhere with the Zepherites. And this is attached to Glints inheritance of their new found powers and which is attached to glints offspring in GW1.

There are hints to it but no real proof.

Zephyrite: The summer sun shone bright once more, warmed wood and cloth of home.
Zephyrite: We honored those who came before, and journeyed where they roamed.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, we’ve no more peace, no ally from on high.
Zephyrite: We’ll make our way to brighter day and into clearer skies.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, her magic strewn in sand. Alas, her soul undone.
Zephyrite: The clouds shed tears upon the land for the loss of our crystal sun.(voice says “mourning of crystal sun.”)
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, how time must pass. Ancient, magical friend.
Zephyrite: So terrible, so dreadful that so treasured should so end.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, alas, alas…
Zephyrite: Alas, and so we go…
Zephyrite: We fly on high into the sky…
Zephyrite: And cry, “Alas, alas, alas…”

That’s the song they sing aboard the ship and they also mention tending to “Her Legacy” We know a legacy is often times a child or offspring.

For them to bring the child along, instead of hiding it away, even more so with glints past beef with Kralkatoric it seems kind of odd to expose the offspring to such dangers.

WereDragon.6083:

Zephyrite: The summer sun shone bright once more, warmed wood and cloth of home.
Zephyrite: We honored those who came before, and journeyed where they roamed.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, we’ve no more peace, no ally from on high.
Zephyrite: We’ll make our way to brighter day and into clearer skies.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, her magic strewn in sand. Alas, her soul undone.
Zephyrite: The clouds shed tears upon the land for the loss of our crystal sun.(voice says “mourning of crystal sun.”)
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, how time must pass. Ancient, magical friend.
Zephyrite: So terrible, so dreadful that so treasured should so end.
Zephyrite: (humming)
Zephyrite: No more to tame the wind and rain, the skies to swallow whole.
Zephyrite: She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole.
Zephyrite: Alas, alas, alas, alas…
Zephyrite: Alas, and so we go…
Zephyrite: We fly on high into the sky…
Zephyrite: And cry, “Alas, alas, alas…”

That’s the song they sing aboard the ship and they also mention tending to “Her Legacy” We know a legacy is often times a child or offspring.

For them to bring the child along, instead of hiding it away, even more so with glints past beef with Kralkatoric it seems kind of odd to expose the offspring to such dangers.

Just wondering is it crystal sun or crystal son play on words or a name. I just read a my Sun a girl joke. sorry Child crying for parents maybe though. The ambient conversation in game is really what Anet needs to expand on because i think they are one of their strong points in the game.

Agreed, people pay attention when the NPC’s speak, not so much the main characters.

Children are somewhere why no one is looking for them is only because no one knows they exist but us and maybe the zepherites.

On a side note:
An item to rehear glints eulogy would be nice anet and other removed ambient conversations. Or Youtube them so they are never really gone. Although maybe they will put singers in here Zepherite temple. Added missed content like the coming of the bloodly prince from the first Halloween event makes peacing things together difficult somethimes.

Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up

I don’t think that Glints child would fit in the sanctum. To be fair it was quite big in eye of the North. I would imagin it would have grown a far bit in the 250 years. If they are guarding Glints child it would be somewhere else.

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

Glints child is not the Shatterer. I brought this up around a year ago. It was the general consensus that the Shatterer was very different to what glint was, not to mention way way bigger. And given the age of Glint, having been around since the last time the dragons awoke we would have seen her at full size I would imagine.

I don’t remember Glint having a child in Elona. I will have to look at the wikki.

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

Ok just checked the wikki and there is only one of glints baby’s in Guild Wars that we know of, this is from the wikki;
Glint’s lair is filled with eggs — some of which the young heroes may attempt to steal during the bonus of The Dragon’s Lair, much to Glint’s annoyance — and by 1078 AE, at least one of these has hatched. The Destroyers seem determined to kill her offspring, and her loyal servants, the Dwarven Brotherhood of the Dragon, have come to its defence.

There is no mention of a baby glint in Elona.

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Ok just checked the wikki and there is only one of glints baby’s in Guild Wars that we know of, this is from the wikki;
Glint’s lair is filled with eggs — some of which the young heroes may attempt to steal during the bonus of The Dragon’s Lair, much to Glint’s annoyance — and by 1078 AE, at least one of these has hatched. The Destroyers seem determined to kill her offspring, and her loyal servants, the Dwarven Brotherhood of the Dragon, have come to its defence.

There is no mention of a baby glint in Elona.

It was Eye of the North, in a challenge mission.

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Even if it was just eggs, the inquest would love to get hold of them.

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

I’ve always thought of Glint as asexual. As the dev’s said back in Guild Wars 1 that Glint was a different dragon to Kuwalavang, or what ever his name was(the dragon in factions). Or they could be Kralkatorrik’s eggs. And Glint was guarding them but over time, wanted to turn them against Kralkatorrik? The speculation could go on for ever, so to stop my self from getting a bad head, I’ve decided Glint is asexual.

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

I’ve always thought of Glint as asexual. As the dev’s said back in Guild Wars 1 that Glint was a different dragon to Kuwalavang, or what ever his name was(the dragon in factions). Or they could be Kralkatorrik’s eggs. And Glint was guarding them but over time, wanted to turn them against Kralkatorrik? The speculation could go on for ever, so to stop my self from getting a bad head, I’ve decided Glint is asexual.

Thinking back on this, i remember a post on guru several years ago, so i dug it up.

Regina Buenaobra said:
The way our lore folks explained it to me was that the “lesser” (e.g. humans, charr, asura, etc.) races attribute gender to the dragons, because mortals like to categorize things. We put things into boxes to better understand them, and this includes attributing gender to forces of nature like the elder dragons. The dragons have no true gender, at least not as humans or char understand gender. However, mortals refer to most of the dragons with male pronouns. (Personally, I like the idea of referring to Kralkatorrik with female pronouns, but it’s not accurate to refer to Kralkatorrik as such.)

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

I’ve always thought of Glint as asexual. As the dev’s said back in Guild Wars 1 that Glint was a different dragon to Kuwalavang, or what ever his name was(the dragon in factions). Or they could be Kralkatorrik’s eggs. And Glint was guarding them but over time, wanted to turn them against Kralkatorrik? The speculation could go on for ever, so to stop my self from getting a bad head, I’ve decided Glint is asexual.

Thinking back on this, i remember a post on guru several years ago, so i dug it up.

Regina Buenaobra said:
The way our lore folks explained it to me was that the “lesser” (e.g. humans, charr, asura, etc.) races attribute gender to the dragons, because mortals like to categorize things. We put things into boxes to better understand them, and this includes attributing gender to forces of nature like the elder dragons. The dragons have no true gender, at least not as humans or char understand gender. However, mortals refer to most of the dragons with male pronouns. (Personally, I like the idea of referring to Kralkatorrik with female pronouns, but it’s not accurate to refer to Kralkatorrik as such.)

Interesting. So they are asexual. So the only question left is do the Zepherites have the eggs or a baby?

The real question is…. how big would glints baby be now after 250 years?

The below picture is what it looked like in GW1. The other creatures there are dwarves.

Picture is from GW1 wiki, might go grab my own soon.

Anyway, I don’t think it is inside a ship.

Realist.5812:

The real question is…. how big would glints baby be now after 250 years?

The below picture is what it looked like in GW1. The other creatures there are dwarves.

Picture is from GW1 wiki, might go grab my own soon.

Anyway, I don’t think it is inside a ship.

I’d think too big to fit into the sanctum. I mean look at the size of Glint. She’s not small.
[img]http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/de/Glint_screenshot.jpg[/img]

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

I’ve always thought of Glint as asexual. As the dev’s said back in Guild Wars 1 that Glint was a different dragon to Kuwalavang, or what ever his name was(the dragon in factions). Or they could be Kralkatorrik’s eggs. And Glint was guarding them but over time, wanted to turn them against Kralkatorrik? The speculation could go on for ever, so to stop my self from getting a bad head, I’ve decided Glint is asexual.

Thinking back on this, i remember a post on guru several years ago, so i dug it up.

Regina Buenaobra said:
The way our lore folks explained it to me was that the “lesser” (e.g. humans, charr, asura, etc.) races attribute gender to the dragons, because mortals like to categorize things. We put things into boxes to better understand them, and this includes attributing gender to forces of nature like the elder dragons. The dragons have no true gender, at least not as humans or char understand gender. However, mortals refer to most of the dragons with male pronouns. (Personally, I like the idea of referring to Kralkatorrik with female pronouns, but it’s not accurate to refer to Kralkatorrik as such.)

Interesting. So they are asexual. So the only question left is do the Zepherites have the eggs or a baby?

That wasn’t what was said. It’s also possible they’re hermaphroditic in much the same way as worms—they have both sets of reproductive organs, but tend toward (or are required to) mating with others and doubling the squirm pool. Or maybe they are asexual, but reproduce through “budding” like hydras or rolling up balls of draconic dung and offering up a benediction monthly until the internal magic-infused poo-center liquefies and forms stem cells. I think I like that origin better.

Canker Bush XI.7423:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

BrotherBelial.3094:

munkiman.3068:

Fafnir.5124:

munkiman.3068:

Since one of her offspring was in Elona, do we honestly think the Zephyrites have one? Do we even know if it’s under Kralkatorrik control? Could it be the Shatterer? So many questions.

They did travel the world. Also flying ships bubbles might not be blocking them

Actually i said elona which is wrong, sorry.

I’d find it really hard to believe they’d be carrying around a (most likely large) dragon. Glint did have a lot of eggs though, they might be toting some of those around.

Still makes me wonder if the Shatterer is one of glints offspring.

As I said in an earlier post. After a long discussion in the lore forum, the consensus is that the Shatterer is not one of glints off spring. If a dev wants to swoop in and tell me I’m wrong that would be great. But until then most people I’ve spoken to thing the Shatterer is just a construct, as it’s body is different to that of Glint, but the. This could just be a redesign. But with that’s said. With the speculation that went on I’m sure we’d know by now if the Shatterer was.

The model, you’re right, doesn’t fit. But, there was a child, so where is it? Well at least one we know of. Also curious as to who helped bring that child into being? Kralkatorrik? Not really possible as he was asleep. One thing i really wish anet would do is tie some of this lore together. I mean could Primordus, get a glint baby? He was one of the first elders to awaken… Maybe my lore is rusty and dragons are asexual and i’m totally missing that.

I’ve always thought of Glint as asexual. As the dev’s said back in Guild Wars 1 that Glint was a different dragon to Kuwalavang, or what ever his name was(the dragon in factions). Or they could be Kralkatorrik’s eggs. And Glint was guarding them but over time, wanted to turn them against Kralkatorrik? The speculation could go on for ever, so to stop my self from getting a bad head, I’ve decided Glint is asexual.

Thinking back on this, i remember a post on guru several years ago, so i dug it up.

Regina Buenaobra said:
The way our lore folks explained it to me was that the “lesser” (e.g. humans, charr, asura, etc.) races attribute gender to the dragons, because mortals like to categorize things. We put things into boxes to better understand them, and this includes attributing gender to forces of nature like the elder dragons. The dragons have no true gender, at least not as humans or char understand gender. However, mortals refer to most of the dragons with male pronouns. (Personally, I like the idea of referring to Kralkatorrik with female pronouns, but it’s not accurate to refer to Kralkatorrik as such.)

Interesting. So they are asexual. So the only question left is do the Zepherites have the eggs or a baby?

That wasn’t what was said. It’s also possible they’re hermaphroditic in much the same way as worms—they have both sets of reproductive organs, but tend toward (or are required to) mating with others and doubling the squirm pool. Or maybe they are asexual, but reproduce through “budding” like hydras or rolling up balls of draconic dung and offering up a benediction monthly until the internal magic-infused poo-center liquefies and forms stem cells. I think I like that origin better.

Well i don’t think the particulars matter so much. It could answer the question how Glint had offspring without a “mate”. Still the question of where that offspring is, and is it corrupted, maybe we’ll find out.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

Based on the size it was in EotN, it’s too big to fit in even the largest of those boats. I seriously doubt they would be toting around a dragon they are trying to protect. Eggs maybe, 250 year old dragon, doubt it.

Although magic says, maybe they shrunk it to fit? They could go all sorts of ways with that.

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

I’m pretty sure those dragons don’t take hundreds of years to mature.

Realist.5812:

The real question is…. how big would glints baby be now after 250 years?

The below picture is what it looked like in GW1. The other creatures there are dwarves.

Picture is from GW1 wiki, might go grab my own soon.

Anyway, I don’t think it is inside a ship.

Wow, that brings back memories. Farmed the hell out of that instance for Destroyer Cores so I could get the Destroyer Gauntlets. Helped that it was a lot of fun, too.

Good times, good times.

I’ve always theorized that Glint reproduced via parthenogenesis, essentially producing ‘clones’ of herself without a mate. This is common in some reptiles, and is the only method of reproduction for a few species. As for why the Zephyrites would take Glint’s offspring with them, keeping it on the move would probably be safer than keeping it in one place, as Kralkatorrik would certainly destroy it if he’s aware of it and can find it.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

I’m pretty sure those dragons don’t take hundreds of years to mature.

Why not they seem to be ageless. Anyways, I’m glad you’re so sure despite the fact you have no evidence.

Some random biological points:

Reptile infants are often much much smaller than their parents. Baby crocodiles are tiny.

Reptiles tend to mature rapidly compared to other animals.

Some reptiles may exhibit what is called negligible senseseance. (Although this is somewhat controversial). Basically this means that they do not grow old (death can still occur due to disease or injury). Some reptiles will just keep getting bigger as long as they live.

Many reptiles can reproduce parthenogenically, i.e. without a father. Specimens in captivity with no contact with males have been know to produce viable offspring. Due to the way reptile chromosomes work, only female offspring are viable.

Of course, the dragons are not necessarily reptiles, and magic could change anything.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Realist.5812:

The real question is…. how big would glints baby be now after 250 years?

The below picture is what it looked like in GW1. The other creatures there are dwarves.

Picture is from GW1 wiki, might go grab my own soon.

Anyway, I don’t think it is inside a ship.

I’d think too big to fit into the sanctum. I mean look at the size of Glint. She’s not small.
[img]http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/d/de/Glint_screenshot.jpg[/img]

To be honest shes not that big…i dont think, certainly not compared to the other dragons, and she is fully grown as far as we know. so i dont think her babys will be much bigger than she will unless they totally change the scale of her… http://www.groovymarlin.com/gw/img/gw037.jpg that glint right there could totally fit into the sanctum.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/8/8e/Glint%27s_corpse.jpg

Glint is still fairly big, and no she couldn’t fit inside the Sanctum unless they hollowed out a good portion of it.

Glint’s Lair was located in a grain of sand. Maybe her child is doing the same, not sure why they would carry that portal to the lair around though.

kokiman.2364:

Glint’s Lair was located in a grain of sand. Maybe her child is doing the same, not sure why they would carry that portal to the lair around though.

Apparently, that is a lie.

The ‘lair in a grain of sand’ actually proved to be bogus. Glint put out that legend in order to deter people from finding OTHER ways of locating it.

Regarding the location of Glint’s child in EOTN – Simply put, we don’t know where it was, since we visited it via gate, so there’s no reason to believe it’s in Elona as opposed to anywhere else. There IS a baby dragon in Nightfall, but it’s a Canthan-style dragon

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

I’m pretty sure those dragons don’t take hundreds of years to mature.

Anyways, I’m glad you’re so sure despite the fact you have no evidence.

I can say the same about you.

It wouldn’t make any sense at all for dragon champions (which is exactly what glint, tequatl and the shatterer etc are) to take hundreds of years to mature. If that was the case, using those dragons would be highly impractical.

Not only that, everytime we kill the Shatterer another dragon takes it’s place, since “Shatterer” is a rank, and only one dragon can hold that rank at any given time.
(source) So Kralkatorrik’s dragons must be produced/bred at an extraordinary pace. Unless you actually think Kralk has a limitless supply of dragon champions.

So….where can i read more about what happened last year in kite city and about mini-glint?

I can’t find anything on the wiki apart from the zephyrites obtaining some magic powers from glints decomposing carcase
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zephyr_Sanctum

Nothing about baby jesus

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

DarcShriek.5829:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Randulf.7614:

Yeah..it’s not really a baby dragon anymore.

They’re gonna need a bigger boat…

That is a good point. Her offspring must be gigantic right now, so it will never fit.

Unless it’s offspring that hatched later from an egg we do not know about yet.

Glint’s offspring could still be quite small. Glint wasn’t all that big herself. Also, how old do dragons live? It seems that Glint’s offspring would still be quite young.

There’s no evidence that says Glint’s child is large.

I’m pretty sure those dragons don’t take hundreds of years to mature.

Why not they seem to be ageless. Anyways, I’m glad you’re so sure despite the fact you have no evidence.

Play eye of the North, the baby is too big then. There is the evidence.

Remember Glint’s lair in GW1 was inside a single grain of sand in the crystal desert. If the offspring of Glint also has her powers then it’s size is irrelivant. It could fit anywhere.

Bathos.6341:

Remember Glint’s lair in GW1 was inside a single grain of sand in the crystal desert. If the offspring of Glint also has her powers then it’s size is irrelivant. It could fit anywhere.

I have been to the lair and also read the books but I do not remember Glints Lair fitting in a single grain of sand.

Not saying you are wrong, I just don’t remember.

Bathos.6341:

Remember Glint’s lair in GW1 was inside a single grain of sand in the crystal desert. If the offspring of Glint also has her powers then it’s size is irrelivant. It could fit anywhere.

No it’s not. In the book edge of Destiny, Glint has the power of illusion. Destinys Edge are walking through her lair before she reviews herself and them in her lair. So size is very relevant. Also someone else in this thread said that Glint put the legend of her lair being in a single grain of sand. To stop people trying to find her. Sand shifts a lot. If what you where looking for something the size of a grain in a dessert, you’d not bother.

Its in the EoD book, I think, when they are walking in the desert…the single grain of sand is an illusion that basically fades away when they stop searching for it.

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Brother beat me to it

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

Bathos.6341:

Remember Glint’s lair in GW1 was inside a single grain of sand in the crystal desert. If the offspring of Glint also has her powers then it’s size is irrelivant. It could fit anywhere.

I have been to the lair and also read the books but I do not remember Glints Lair fitting in a single grain of sand.

Not saying you are wrong, I just don’t remember.

It’s in the story of Guild Wars Prophercies. I can’t remember when it’s said but it’s in the crystal dessert section I think.

Exactly, in GW1 it said it was inside a single grain of sand. think the Tardis, the illusion was it was bigger inside.

Maybe that is what the Master of Peace went after! :O
- But yeah, it was suddenly just forgotten as Season 2 started.

Now that we are at it, I wonder how we all suddenly know the name of Mordremoth? Was it mentioned in Scarlet’s notes somewhere? I don’t remember our character’s finding out the Elder Dragon’s name.

Well, let’s say there’s a Glint-spawn with the Zephyrites. If that’s true, then said dragon would likely be a couple hundred years old, and too big to hide without illusion. But Glint could do illusions, there’s no reason to assume that the child can’t as well.

For me, this leads to two possible theories:

First, the child is disguised as an airship. This isn’t my favorite theory, but it does make a bit of sense.

The second idea is that the Glintling is disguised as a person. Strong mesmer magic seems to make the illusion real enough that physics goes along with the illusion, so there’s no reason why this couldn’t be the answer. IF this is the case, then you’d be looking for someone that the Zephyrites see as: an Elder, wise, someone to protect, and someone with access to great and important power. So far, we’ve met only one Zephyrite that fits all of that.

Sinifair.1026:

Maybe that is what the Master of Peace went after! :O
- But yeah, it was suddenly just forgotten as Season 2 started.

If my second theory is right, then the Master of Peace isn’t running to reach Glint’s offspring. The Master of Peace IS Glint’s offspring. That’s why the one Zephyrite was lying, she didn’t want to let slip that little detail. It also suggests that the MoP was running not just to get away, but to draw the threat away from the remaining Zephyrites.