Guild Wars 2

I hope that the Liadri mini won’t be acquirable again.First of all,there is no point in bringing back the exact same rewards for the people who have already completed the content~that wouldn’t be motivating for them.Also,this mini is one of the few things in-game that i am proud of,since it required a bit of skill and timing to be able to beat Liadri(especially on a non-high dps guardian).Although i understand that this might provide a second chance to all the new players and to those that missed the first event,i strongly believe it should remain an one-time only reward.Personally i was hoping for new champions,but this isn’t supposed to be another complain post.(really tired of those)
Thanks for your time!

I hope that I can still get it because I tried up until it went away and saved my tickets in hopes I could get it next go around. Still won’t be easy to get but it should be available for those that can beat her this go round too.

One of the main reasons I believe they’re bringing back the same champions is because this release is world-wide. It’ll be available for the China release as well as ours, so it’s also giving them a first time chance. They may add extra past what they had from last year, but that won’t be determined until tomorrow

I’m honestly hoping that they bring her back so that many others can acquire it, if you got the mini it’s still a “personal measurement of skill”, you can be sure that anyone who acquired it was able to beat her so there’s no reason to lock it from others.

Reason why I want them to keep bringing the miniatures back is because I’m missing Foostivoo for my collection… you hearing that Anet I neeeeeeed that mini!!!

tl;dr- I’m a special snowflake
/thread

“According to those who went to the Chinese Beta Festival, players will have chance to get guaranteed rewards from past Living Story events in this patch (i.e. those from meta achievements) but rare drops such as Monocle and Molten Backpack will likely not be available for NA/EU players.”

Elommir.2587:

this mini is one of the few things in-game that i am proud of

Spot on.

The Gauntlet stands as the ONLY event that has ever really challenged me in game. It was one of the few occasions I took steps to learn and actually REALLY understand my profession.

While I support some people who use the mantra’ I play how I want to play’ there are those that cling onto it because it’s their lifeline when people point out their builds are not very good and it’s in their interests to learn to play better.

Liadri sorted those who could play the game and those that couldn’t.

FearedbytheGods.8617:

Liadri sorted those who could play the game and those that couldn’t.

That is actually a rather unfair statement.

People could be extremely good at the game and yet still not defeat Liadri due to many different factors out of their hands.

lordkrall.7241:

That is actually a rather unfair statement.

People could be extremely good at the game and yet still not defeat Liadri due to many different factors out of their hands.

…by which you mean the absence of other 149 players in the map carrying them to the "victory " while they mouseclick skill 1 on their cleric staff guardians and bearbow rangers? In that case, sure.

As long as the difficulty is untouched, I don’t care whether the mini is obtainable again or not.
To me, Mini Liadri is worth more than a legendary.
Because it required me skill to gain it, not grind.

Lishtenbird.2814:

lordkrall.7241:

That is actually a rather unfair statement.

People could be extremely good at the game and yet still not defeat Liadri due to many different factors out of their hands.

…by which you mean the absence of other 149 players in the map carrying them to the "victory " while they mouseclick skill 1 on their cleric staff guardians and bearbow rangers? In that case, sure.

Or maybe simply that they weren’t playing when this patch was live and now they can try it for the first time? I’ve always wondered why everyone thinks that the same amount of players since release has been constant through all this years…

ghost.3208:

Or maybe simply that they weren’t playing when this patch was live and now they can try it for the first time? I’ve always wondered why everyone thinks that the same amount of players since release has been constant through all this years…

Where exactly did you read that I was opposing the return of Liadri (and the mini)? I wasn’t playing at that time and I’m looking forward to beating that (finally a solo, not zerg one!!!) boss very much as I heard a lot about her. And yes, I expect the same difficulty (maybe with some fixing of camera issues and instancing).

I simply commented that most of those “out of hand” factors are excuses from players who have “laggy mouse not working on the sofa”, “slow notebook with bad wi-fi”, “zomg boss too hard to solo I need train oh my donut slipped and I spilled my coffee and hey I got a new tweet!” problems which are clearly not a valid excuse for failing a challenge. Casual players often rage when they face content which is out of their comfort zone – as we can see from the other thread in the same forum.

I can say i found lliadri totally unfun due to well known issues.
And that was not so skill intensive since many players unable to complete COF1 got her.

It was more a matter of patience and luck OR of gold and build.
If they put her back i won t care, as i did before unless they change the camera.

Lishtenbird.2814:

ghost.3208:

Or maybe simply that they weren’t playing when this patch was live and now they can try it for the first time? I’ve always wondered why everyone thinks that the same amount of players since release has been constant through all this years…

Where exactly did you read that I was opposing the return of Liadri (and the mini)? I wasn’t playing at that time and I’m looking forward to beating that (finally a solo, not zerg one!!!) boss very much as I heard a lot about her. And yes, I expect the same difficulty (maybe with some fixing of camera issues and instancing).

I simply commented that most of those “out of hand” factors are excuses from players who have “laggy mouse not working on the sofa”, “slow notebook with bad wi-fi”, “zomg boss too hard to solo I need train oh my donut slipped and I spilled my coffee and hey I got a new tweet!” problems which are clearly not a valid excuse for failing a challenge. Casual players often rage when they face content which is out of their comfort zone – as we can see from the other thread in the same forum.

wut? Where did I said that you were opposing the idea of the mini coming back? I simply added another reason why some people weren’t able to get it before.

But now that I’m reading my original reply I can see why it could had been understood as that, poor wording on my part.

ghost.3208:

But now that I’m reading my original reply I can see why it could had been understood as that, poor wording on my part.

Np:) Let’s hope we get to beat the unnerfed but fixed Liadri this time, the preview mentioned her (well, with a “maybe”) and that’s a good sign.

Zelkovan.2630:

tl;dr- I’m a special snowflake
/thread

This.
I also got Mini Liadri last year, and for obvious reasons my Mini Liadri and my SAB Tribulation Mode Skins are the only items ingame that I’m actually a little proud to own.
But to hope that these items will never again be obtainable, just for the sake of less people having them and stroking the egos of the owners because they’re soo very special, is just ridiculous and pathetic. Beating Liadri probably won’t be any easier this time, so why not reward the people that can beat her this year? Everybody who wants to get the mini should get the chance to.

And by the way, owning Mini Liadri does not make me a better or more skilled player. I’m still a casual. It just shows that back then I had the time and the will to battle her and stay focused for about 80 rounds. Some people should really get off their high horses.

Lishtenbird.2814:

ghost.3208:

But now that I’m reading my original reply I can see why it could had been understood as that, poor wording on my part.

Np:) Let’s hope we get to beat the unnerfed but fixed Liadri this time, the preview mentioned her (well, with a “maybe”) and that’s a good sign.

I already got her but I’ll be cheering for ya, now Anet…

If I’m able to obtain it again could you be so kind as to let me trade it for Foostivoo? I’m gonna keep nagging you guys about this until you make it come back this year!!

Oh, I just saw that this year you even get a title for beating Liadri!
And they removed the glass ceilings of the arenas, so the camera problems are fixed as well.
Nice one, Anet!

Theres actually no reason why Liadri mini shouldn’t be able to obtain as a reward anymore as it was possible to try the pitfight as many times as you wanted. I could agree with the op if Liadri mini was only rewarded to ones who beat her first try, the pitfight had limited tries or if the mini was sellable. Although I do think the achievements will be exactly the same they were a year ago.

I liked it, but it’s sad they let it return, that was the only mini that meant something, if minis mean something at all ^^

As someone who obtained the mini, I want it to return.

Why would someone who displays the same skill now not obtain the same reward as someone who displayed skill last time? Let them get the mini, if the content is the same, the reward should be the same.

Shiren.9532:

Why would someone who displays the same skill now not obtain the same reward as someone who displayed skill last time? Let them get the mini, if the content is the same, the reward should be the same.

Because people who displayed the skill required last time weren’t awarded with a title? Those people have to go and kill Liadri again to get it.

Not like it’s terribly hard to kill her again if you’ve done it before, it only took me a few tries to kill her again this time…

They might as well make Liadri mini a rare one this time, due to QG improvements she’s not that difficult anymore.