Living World Seasons payment
You get the Living Story free if you logged on at any time the story was active. For LS2 that was about a two week period, for LS3 that’s a 2-3 month period.
No, Living Seasons can be considered mini-expansions between the big expansions.. bonus campaigns.. however you like to call them.
When you buy GW2, you buy the core game
That is the Orr Campaign.
So right now, the products are:
Guild Wars 2
Living World Season 2
Heart of Thorns
Living World Season 3
The above are all seperate products and need to be bought seperately. as a reward for loyal and active players, the Living World subchapters are free at the time they are released that means if you’re active during a release, you get it for free. It’s not a punishment for players to buy it, but a reward for being active.
Think of it as a shop selling kitchens. During the opening period, you get free toasters with your kitchen. But people who come by later when the action ends, have to buy the toaster seperately. By that time, you get the waterboiler free. And when they release the microwave, the waterboiler becomes for sale again
Right now you can get Living World Season 3 Chapter 3 for free just by logging in for 2 seconds
Its not a monthly subscription, or anything like it. A monthly subscription would insinuate you have to (re)pay for the core product as well. Here you buy and own a copy of each of the sections of the game. People who bought the initial game have endless access to the initial game
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Thanks for the aswers, but doesn’t look very clear. On one hand, you get rewarded for being loyal (for logging in), on the other hand the people that bought the gw2 game and supported the game from the beggining don’t get rewarded?
Is there a difference from people like me that bought the first game and left from people that just started now and only bought the HoT expansion?
I payed for: core game, LWS 2, HoT, LWS3;
New player would pay: LWS2, HoT, LWS3.
Living Story is basically DLC. No game gives away DLC just because you bought the base game.
They let you have it free if you log in during the release period as a hold-over from Season 1 when that was the only way to play it and after the release period it was gone forever, but otherwise you need to buy it like any additional content in a game.
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Shouldn’t the people that bought the initial game have access to the Living World Season 2 for free?
No — it’s a business question, not a moral one. ANet thinks people should pay extra if they aren’t around for the ‘free’ unlock.
and the same goes for the ultimate edition of HoT.
In effect, buying Living World unlocks is like buying a special edition — for the extra cash or gems, you get access to a little bit more.
It’s kinda sad having to pay for every content release.
Annoying, sure. Discouraging to some new players, also true.
It’s feeling like monthly subscription.
On the contrary, with a monthly subscription, you would have paid a lot more than ‘200 gems’ per month. Subs cost at least US$10 per month, which is enough for 800 gems in GW2, while it only costs US$20 total to unlock all of LS2 one episode at a time (it’s less than $16 if you get it as a package deal).
Here’s another way to look at it:
- Everyone playing the game at the time of an LS episode patch is given 200 gems in loyalty rewards.
- That reward is limited to unlocking the new episode and cannot be used for anything else.
- ANet helpfully applies those 200 gems immediately, so we don’t have to take the extra steps of finding the unlock in the gem shop/hero panel, clicking it, and accepting the in-game mail that unlocks the episode.
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Thanks for the aswers, but doesn’t look very clear. On one hand, you get rewarded for being loyal (for logging in), on the other hand the people that bought the gw2 game and supported the game from the beggining don’t get rewarded?
Is there a difference from people like me that bought the first game and left from people that just started now and only bought the HoT expansion?
I payed for: core game, LWS 2, HoT, LWS3;
New player would pay: LWS2, HoT, LWS3.
If you haven’t played in 3-4 years, you haven’t been supporting the game. You bought core game; you have the core game. You bought HoT; you have HoT. You are getting what you paid for. As mentioned above the Living Stories are given free as a gift of loyalty- anyone can find 30 seconds in their day to log on and get the chapters.
Let me ask you, from a business standpoint, how do you expect Anet to make money when they don’t do monthly subscriptions?
Let me ask you, from a business standpoint, how do you expect Anet to make money when they don’t do monthly subscriptions?
So let me see: Collectors edition 150€, HoT ultimate edition 99€, LWS2 i don’t even know how much i paid so 10€, LWS3 5€. Not even talking about the money i spent on gems for inventory slots, bank slots and crafting slots. So i think giving away the LWS2 for the people that bought the first game isn’t a big deal.
The point i wanted to make clear is this:
Shouldn’t the people that bought the initial game have access to the Living World Season 2 for free?
No — it’s a business question, not a moral one. ANet thinks people should pay extra if they aren’t around for the ‘free’ unlock.
In my opinion it should be moral but I am not arguing over it. I got their point of view but I still have mine.
Shouldn’t the people that bought the initial game have access to the Living World Season 2 for free?
No — it’s a business question, not a moral one. ANet thinks people should pay extra if they aren’t around for the ‘free’ unlock.
In my opinion it should be moral but I am not arguing over it. I got their point of view but I still have mine.
Sure, you’re entitled to your position.
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it all goes back to the Living World Season one, where people who missed any of the chapter couldn’t do it AT ALL because they happened on the “Living World” , on the regular map. so they started complaining that they should be able to do them when they like, so Anet changed the Living World story model to the currently deployed instanced model.
this change of model require effort and cost, so they put a catch. if you log in during the period when the chapter is active you get to play it, for free, otherwise you can still play it but will have to pay for it. think of it as an incentive for you to login and play GW2.
Living World are not promised content in the core or expansion of the game. you get what you pay for. they are “added”, by the good will of Anet.
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Fair enough, you have your opinion on how they should deploy the Living Story elements. As long as it isn’t based on a misunderstanding of the reason why you had to pay an additional cost to unlock it.
At least you CAN pay to unlock it for your account, the Flame and Frost chapter is gone forever and at least right now….will never return. Sure some of the rewards are accessible, but not all of them. I still kind of regret not bothering with that first Living Story. Fused daggers would look better on my Ele than most of the other skins, plus they match her fiery personality.
Most triple A MMOs charge a monthly fee at launch for quite a bit after launch. WoW, FF XIV, ESO, SWToR, hell even TSW charged a monthly fee for quite a while.
This game didn’t. You got an entire MMO for free for years, and you’re worried about the stuff you don’t get for free later?
As for what new players get, that’s another issue. It’s hard to start an MMO late. New players are way behind the curve in so many ways. There are items and experiences they can never have, but you may have.
Every company needs to find new ways to get new blood into the MMO or the MMO dies. The best thing Anet could possibly do for veteran players is to bring new players into the game. That helps everyone.
You’re entitled to your opinion but it seems to me that people who play or even just log in are rewarded for doing so. People who don’t even follow the game enough to know they should have been aren’t all that loyal to begin with.
Buying an MMO doesn’t make you loyal. Sticking with it does.
It’s like saying I bought a boxed album of the beatles and I bought a disc later, so therefore, I’m a huge beatles supporter.
No, I bought products, which I got my money’s worth out of. If I want another album I have to buy it.