New Discovery! The origin of the Pale Tree.

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Posted by: Baoz.4735

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I ran into a tree recently, and I have discovered something that is very shocking to me on the origin of the trees.

Apparently the pale mother tree was planted by two people, to find out who they are, click on the image.

Call me a romantic, but I think these two planted the tree, somehow fall in love with it, and it became a triangle relationship, eventurally lead the two into a everlasting war.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

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This is nothing new. Not even a little bit. If you play guild wars 1 you see the tree when it is small. Also, no they did not fall in love.

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Posted by: Baoz.4735

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how else do you explain the war between the two leged and the horse, im sure it cant be slavery.

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

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how else do you explain the war between the two leged and the horse, im sure it cant be slavery.

Humans and Sentar have been at odd/war since Guild Wars. The pail tree has nothing to do with the war. It began long before the tree had even been planted.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

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This has been known for ages, you can even visit those characters in Guild Wars 1…

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Posted by: Zietlogik.6208

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Eye of the North came out on August 31st, 2007, so that is about how old this news is…

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Posted by: Wanderer.3248

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Ventari was a pacifist.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

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Yeah that was foreshadowed in the GW1 games Prophecies and EoTN.

I am just glad, as a longtime fan, that this was one loose end they actually followed up on.

If you ever had any idea how much stuff they foreshadowed between 2005-2007, and then simply never resolved, you would… probably know how I feel.

Sigh… 7 years.

Must be how Half-Life fans feel.

Someone needs to make a video like this for Guild Wars.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

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Oh and btw, for more about Ronan and Ventari, and much more about the time between GW1 and GW2, check out this article:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Movement_of_the_World

It’s a great setup for the story of GW2.

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Posted by: Zomaarwat.3912

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A centaur and a human being gay for eachother… shudder

Over a year and the forum search is still broken = /

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Posted by: applecup.3047

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how else do you explain the war between the two leged and the horse, im sure it cant be slavery.

A mixture of slavery and humanity pushing centaurs out of their territory in order to resettle it for themselves, combined with concerted attempts at genocide on humanity’s part.

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Posted by: Kurrilino.2706

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how else do you explain the war between the two leged and the horse, im sure it cant be slavery.

I don’t even know what to say.
Reading a little bit of background before making ridiculous posts like that would help.

There is a war and huge dislike going on between human and centaurs…. yadda.. yadda.. yadda….
Ventari has enough of war and violence since he is a pacifist and runs away.
He plants the tree in his hideout and scripts the tablet with his peaceful thoughts

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Posted by: Jornophelanthas.1475

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Next, someone will claim to have made the discovery that there used to be a seventh god named “Abaddon”.

And that the “Temple of the Forgotten God” story instance is a clue.

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Posted by: Windu The Forbidden One.6045

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He plants the tree in his hideout and scripts the tablet with his peaceful thoughts

Actually I think it’s Ronan who planted the tree.

Over 250 years ago, Ronan, a Shining Blade warrior, took one of these seeds and placed it on the graves of his family, located in what was once Arbor Bay, who were killed by the mursaat.

In grief, he then swore to lay down his weapons and planted the seed upon the graves. It was near this tree that he would stay for the rest of his life. Later on, Ronan would be joined by the centaur Ventari.

I got those from the Gw2wiki pages Ronan and The Pale Tree. Though none of those texts have an actual source confirming it. So take it with a grain of salt.

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Posted by: Wanderer.3248

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A centaur and a human being gay for eachother… shudder

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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how else do you explain the war between the two leged and the horse, im sure it cant be slavery.

When the Elonians colonized Kryta (which had been pre-existing) in 300 AE, they pushed the centaurs out of their homeland (central/northern Kryta), and this became a war ever since. The war was ancient even by GW1’s era, and Ventari lived in GW1. The Centaur War predates the Pale Tree. And it was not sentient nor capable of responding when Ronan and Ventari were still alive.

If you went into the Priory library in Divinity’s Reach, you’d know half of this. If you played GW1 Prophecies and Eye of the North, you’d know the other half. If you read The Movement of the World, you’d know half of it as well (a different half).

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

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What was the original citation for Kryta being colonized by Elonians? I see it in the wiki but don’t recall where it is in the cannon.

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Posted by: Lucky.9421

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I got those from the Gw2wiki pages Ronan and The Pale Tree. Though none of those texts have an actual source confirming it. So take it with a grain of salt.

That is found in the movement of the world article which I linked above, written by one of Anet’s writers.

Also can be confirmed in dialogue from the EotN expansion for GW1. See bellow.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ventari

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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What was the original citation for Kryta being colonized by Elonians? I see it in the wiki but don’t recall where it is in the cannon.

the timeline in the novels.

It has been known since Prophecies that Kryta existed since the time of King Doric (though it’s size is unknown), but it was “established as a colony” in 300 AE. GW2 and the novels has since clarified that it was founded by Mazdak, a prince of Orr, and was at war with Orr during said founding, and that Elona colonized it and expanded Kryta’s territories, beginning the 1,000+ year long Centaur War.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

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What was the original citation for Kryta being colonized by Elonians? I see it in the wiki but don’t recall where it is in the cannon.

the timeline in the novels.

It has been known since Prophecies that Kryta existed since the time of King Doric (though it’s size is unknown), but it was “established as a colony” in 300 AE. GW2 and the novels has since clarified that it was founded by Mazdak, a prince of Orr, and was at war with Orr during said founding, and that Elona colonized it and expanded Kryta’s territories, beginning the 1,000+ year long Centaur War.

Not only that, all of the elonian desert portion of prophecies is pretty clear about elonians and possibly orrians predating tyrian and krytan civilization by a large margin. The desert is littered with ancient cursed elonian ghosts and skeletons and ruined settlements of Elonian pilgrims, and it’s the central plotline for that area of the game. Though, to be fair, a lot of the Orrian stuff was conjured up specifically for GW2 as in the first game it was an intentionally mysterious lore black hole.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

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The Crystal Desert ghosts were actually only 200 years old from when Turai Ossa took a bunch from Elona to the desert to Ascend. They didn’t talk anything about civilizations predating Ascalon or Kryta, just groups of pilgrims and kingdoms that tried settling in the land before the players show up (Turai mentions two groups, doesn’t name them though, showing after them, and names the Margonites whom were before Turai’s group).

Elona was established in 200 BE, with humanity arriving in Elona and Orr in 205 BE. When Orr was established is still unknown, same with the exact time of Kryta, but Ascalon was established in 100 BE. But we didn’t know when Elona was established until Nightfall. In the Crystal Desert, all we knew were of five groups that had tried to establish themselves in the desert and failed: Margonites, Primeval Kings, Turai’s Elonians, Seekers (who they were is still fully unknown), and Ascalonians. In that supposed order.

Dear ANet writers,
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.