Guild Wars 2

Dear developers,

GW used to have mature dialogue. Still filled with humor, but not sounding particularly childish. Since LWS2, dialogue has become more and more “childish”, using modern day tongue-in-cheek teen language. It no longer sounds like the classy fantasy theme this game once was but more and more like a reality tv show.

One of the reasons Canach is so popular is because his voice actor refuses to read dialogue that way (with all it’s cheeky contractions etc.) but keeps pronouncing it like a Shakespearean actor. It makes people take him more seriously, respect him and his dark humor instead of looking upon him like he was a clown.

There really needs to be change in the way dialogue is written. I can’t take the Commander nor most of the adult NPCs seriously anymore when they talk like 2017 American teens. (Even Ogden Stonehealer, a very old and renowned character, is occasionally talking like that.)

Please? This is not a game made for kids only but for everyone, and adult characters should act and talk accordingly. Also, this is not our modern day world, and I don’t want to get the feeling that it is, because if I wanted that, I wouldn’t be playing GW.

Can you give some examples? As in, actual lines? The story is rather middling, but I never noticed anything like what you’re describing.

Dialogue in GW1 & GW2 has always included the serious, the jocular, and the cheesy. Some of the voice actors are so good they make ordinary text sound tremendously important; others are so bad that epic dialogue about epic events sounds like someone worried about the density of chocolate sprinkles on their ice cream.

Without specifics, it’s impossible to agree or disagree with the OP’s critique. More importantly, it’s impossible for ANet to do anything about it, without specifics.

What lines do you think are immature now? What older bits of dialogue do you think were more mature?

Pretty much all of Canach’s lines are awesome and I suppose can be considered “mature”. Canach’s voice actor is perhaps the best in the game right now. Second in line is Taimi’s voice actor. Does a very good job and delivers lines very professionally given her character (much like Canach’s). I would say Rytlock’s voice actor does a really good job as well. The player character is very hit and miss. Everyone else is more or less bleh…

Interesting that Canach’s voice actor is considered very good, not only his lines. I assume this is a combination of the the script itself and instructions how to speak the lines, because the praise span at least two languages: english and german. I don’t know how the english Canach sounds, but the german one (which I am hearing) is top. According to this thread, the english one is also considered top. So either both languages got an equally outstanding speaker, or it’s not only the speaker but also the script itself.

I assume it’s mainly the instructions how to speak the lines. The speakers are professionals who were selected/casted for their roles, so we can consider all of them “good”. In my opinion, the characters sound exactly how they are intended to sound from the developer’s point of view.
If they are considered not so good by the players, it’s probably because the character is rather uninteresting – not the voice actor who speaks it.

I agree to some extend that the GW2 dialogue feels a little more child-friendly than the GW1 dialogue did, but not so much that I’m bothered with it. Sometimes I feel like they could be a little more serious, or sometimes a dark or cruel thing can happen and anet turns it into easter holiday again.

For example, Taimi gets blown away from the one floating rock when the machine explodes. We see her falling to the lava, so I thought he was done for. They had all the anticipation and everything. Cutscene spins around, she safely landed on the next rock over. Now I’m not saying that Taimi should die, but the scene was there and it feels like anet wanted it, but pulled out in the last second.

I agree with OP. It’s kinda weird that we are getting so many kid-designed- dialogues. We are getting those from the beginning of LS3, but suddenly out of nowhere "Lazarus"’s deep voice appeared.

In HoT we had plenty of mature dialogues. Like saying to Caithe, that if she will make one wrong move, then she will die or something.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Dialogue in GW1 & GW2 has always included the serious, the jocular, and the cheesy. Some of the voice actors are so good they make ordinary text sound tremendously important; others are so bad that epic dialogue about epic events sounds like someone worried about the density of chocolate sprinkles on their ice cream.

Without specifics, it’s impossible to agree or disagree with the OP’s critique. More importantly, it’s impossible for ANet to do anything about it, without specifics.

What lines do you think are immature now? What older bits of dialogue do you think were more mature?

Hey, ice cream (sprinkles or not) is serious business!!!

Other than that I completely agree that the voice acting canbe hit or miss. Makes me wonder if its more a matter of direction than of actual voice acting.

Some of you asked me to give examples. I can’t from the top of my head come up with the most crucial ones I’ve noticed these past couple of years, so I have to refer to the most recent ones I played.

Before I do so, let me say this to avoid any misunderstanding: My OP is NOT just about the voice acting. There are enough threads dealing with that topic.
This is about the modern juvenile tone set by the scripted dialogue: the use of certain contractions, cheeky slang, and (partially) slurry pronunciation and intonation (encouraged by the script, so I don’t blame the actors).

Now, I played through S2 and HoT again these past weeks, the most recent mission I played was Buried Insight. I will provide a handful of examples from said mission so you guys understand what I am geneally talking about here (I will mark the words/parts/contractions that heavily contribute to the aforementioned overall feeling, but you will really have to play through the missions to fully grasp the feeling in comparisson to, let’s say, GW1 or GW2 core campaign dialogue):

• Big deal. It’ll fall just like the rest.
• Yeah, how did you…? Ah. Gotcha.
• Outta the way, chak!
• That dragon’s not gonna sit around while we find this Rata Novan research.
• Yay, us. / I’m okay.
• Sounds like asuran tech incoming.
• How’s it working now, Taimi?
• Where’d we end up?
• and so forth, and so on

P.S. on the annoying use of modern day contractions: In the same mission, the voice actor of Canach refused to slur his pronunciation that way. One of his lines went: “I’m not saying it, nature is.” But he pronounced it instead: “I am not saying it, nature is.” (which made a difference, as does the rest of his crystal clear pronunciation) Also, Canach’s lines in general sound a lot more literary in style than those of many of the other characters — especially Taimi and Braham truly sound like contemporary teenagers, but Jory and Kas sometimes do too, as does the Commander, and even Rytlock who recently has adopted a “grumpy ol’ redneck” diction.

P.P.S. As for the “childish tone”, some of the dialogue exchanged does remind me of watching an action hero cartoon rather than reading The Lord of Rings. I prefer my fantasy world classy rather than feeling like I was watching a tv show targeting eleven year olds.

Ah, thanks for the examples; that helps me understand where you’re coming from.

I think it’s good that people speak “colloquially” — not everyone talks like kings, particular not most of our merry band. Jory is from the streets, Braham is a kid, Rox is a plebe, and Taimi is a teenage wunderkind and in a rush. There’s nothing wrong with contractions.

Additionally, I know you don’t want to bring the voice acting into it, but … as you can see from what you’ve written, it’s critical. Not everyone can pull off formal speech (Jennah: yes; Human PC: no, imo) and similarly, not everyone does colloquial that well.

And some of it is just what we’re used to. US President Jimmy Carter was an expert in nuclear disaster clean up and yet he pronounces “nuclear” as “nuke a lur”. That doesn’t make him uneducated, just southern — that’s “proper pronunciation” in some parts of the world.

And finally, I have a weak preference for “normal people” caught up in epic events rather than the formal speech of Lord of the Rings. I love the books and am a fan of the movies — the high fantasy works in part because of the nobility of the language. I also like Harry Dresden (the TV show actually, more than the books), even though he speaks more like a hard-boiled PI rather than a “real” wizard.

So I understand why you might prefer the traditional sort of speech we’ve seen in other games. I just don’t agree that it’s a bad fit for this game or the particular characters; it’s just different.

How to fix GW2’s story: Kill off Taimi, Braham and Marjory, kill off the Sylvari (except Canach), hire new writers. Alternatively, reboot the game ala FFXIV.

Mavis.1463:

How to fix GW2’s story: Kill off Taimi, Braham and Marjory, kill off the Sylvari (except Canach), hire new writers. Alternatively, reboot the game ala FFXIV.

I will disappoint you, but:
1) they can’t kill Taimi, because:
-she is 16 years old and her career just began.
-no Taimi, no more researches and helping to find the weaknesses (If we would gonna cooperate with Phlunt, then I would never come back to this game).

2) why would ANet kill Braham? They can’t:
-he cracked the tooth in Hoelbrak- huge thing for Norns
-only because he lost his mother and behaved as the pest doesn’t mean he is idiot. He is just… Norn. This is illness who can’t be cured.
-Norn totally deserve to kill Jormag- it’s the point of their story- this is the point of being Norn. I hope Jormag didn’t go to pre-awakening state and we will see the battle with Jormag anyway.

3)Marjory? They lost their chance to get rid of her in Flashpoint, so she still has the role to play.

4)I hope you are kidding with “killing all of Sylvari”. So I don’t wanna comment that.

But if you are the follower of killing all of huge characters, the whole race. Well I feel stupid I even replied you.

Arden.7480:

I will disappoint you, but:
1) they can’t kill Taimi, because:
-she is 16 years old and her career just began.
-no Taimi, no more researches and helping to find the weaknesses (If we would gonna cooperate with Phlunt, then I would never come back to this game).

2) why would ANet kill Braham? They can’t:
-he cracked the tooth in Hoelbrak- huge thing for Norns
-only because he lost his mother and behaved as the pest doesn’t mean he is idiot. He is just… Norn. This is illness who can’t be cured.
-Norn totally deserve to kill Jormag- it’s the point of their story- this is the point of being Norn. I hope Jormag didn’t go to pre-awakening state and we will see the battle with Jormag anyway.

3)Marjory? They lost their chance to get rid of her in Flashpoint, so she still has the role to play.

4)I hope you are kidding with “killing all of Sylvari”. So I don’t wanna comment that.

But if you are the follower of killing all of huge characters, the whole race. Well I feel stupid I even replied you.

You probably should, as I’m willing to bet on the fact that the message you responded to with such seriousness is merely a small thinly veiled passive-aggressive rant that itself carries next to no seriousness, as if devs are actually expected to do things mentioned in there.

Mavis.1463:

How to fix GW2’s story: Kill off Taimi, Braham and Marjory, kill off the Sylvari (except Canach), hire new writers. Alternatively, reboot the game ala FFXIV.

I totally approve though.

Oh and I forgot to mention that Sylvari can’t be killed, because the already lost their chance in HoT (Caithe was afraid that killing Mordremoth=killing all of Sylvari), but then it didn’t happen.

I am never agressive to the people of this forum, I’m just giving hard proofs of what Mavis said and why I don’t agree with it even if he/she is joking. I treat him/her as the normal, serious interlocutor.

Arden.7480:

Oh and I forgot to mention that Sylvari can’t be killed, because the already lost their chance in HoT (Caithe was afraid that killing Mordremoth=killing all of Sylvari), but then it didn’t happen.

I am never agressive to the people of this forum, I’m just giving hard proofs of what Mavis said and why I don’t agree with it even if he/she is joking. I treat him/her as the normal, serious interlocutor.

I once made a passive-aggressive joke thread, suggesting Trahearne as a new rev legend (Not sure if I should link, but here it is anyway: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Rev-Elite-Spec-Idea-Marshal/first#post6561594 ). If I saw a person trying to tell me with all seriousness that the traits, mechanics and abilities that I wrote in there would be too overpowered and hard to balance/implement within the game, I’d point and laugh at that person and their hard proofs, and rightfully so, because so much as thinking about actually including something as absurd as that into the game would be way too much ‘not the point’ of the initial thread.

The guy/gal just mentioned of some “this is why we can’t have nice things” factors, I’m willing to bet they don’t expect devs to actually delete an entire race, no matter how awkard it is, or annihilate 90% of the main cast, simply because they suck.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Ah, thanks for the examples; that helps me understand where you’re coming from.

I don’t think you do. It is not just about the colloquial language.

The dialogue often sounds like people of a low IQ are trying to have a conversation. And we all know IQ is not bound to your social background. The dialogue sounds like it was written so that even kids can follow the story (which, by the way, is an insult to kids, because many are very smart and some even more eloquent than many adults).

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I think it’s good that people speak “colloquially” — not everyone talks like kings, particular not most of our merry band. Jory is from the streets, Braham is a kid, Rox is a plebe, and Taimi is a teenage wunderkind and in a rush. There’s nothing wrong with contractions.

I am sorry, but even “plebes” did not talk like that in our world, so why should plebes in GW talk like they have time-traveled from the future while more sophisticated characters have a tone fitting for a fantasy setting? It makes no sense to me. (Edit: Look at the Hobbits and common Dwarves in LotR, for instance. They are plebes, but none of them sounds like a contemporary teenager…)

Since when did slang become childish or being of low IQ?

Ayrilana.1396:

Since when did slang become childish or being of low IQ?

That is not what I said.

Okay, there are two different things here that I criticize and you keep messing them up:
1) Excessive use of contemporary language (slang, contractions etc.).
2) Increase of childish dialogue (some of the content seems more fitting for Nickelodeon).

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

Since when did slang become childish or being of low IQ?

That is not what I said.

Okay, there are two different things here that I criticize and you keep messing them up:
1) Excessive use of contemporary language (slang, contractions etc.).
2) Increase of childish dialogues (some of the content seems more fitting for Nickelodeon).

It is what you said. I could replace ‘childish’ with ‘kiddy’ if you want verbatim. You also mentioned low IQ in the post before mine.

Ashantara.8731:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Ah, thanks for the examples; that helps me understand where you’re coming from.

I don’t think you do. It is not just about the colloquial language.

The dialogue often sounds like people of a low IQ are trying to have a conversation. And we all know IQ is not bound to your social background. The dialogue sounds like it was written so that even kids can follow the story (which, by the way, is an insult to kids, because many are very smart and some even more eloquent than many adults).

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I think it’s good that people speak “colloquially” — not everyone talks like kings, particular not most of our merry band. Jory is from the streets, Braham is a kid, Rox is a plebe, and Taimi is a teenage wunderkind and in a rush. There’s nothing wrong with contractions.

I am sorry, but even “plebes” did not talk like that in our world, so why should plebes in GW talk like they have time-traveled from the future while more sophisticated characters have a tone fitting for a fantasy setting? It makes no sense to me. (Edit: Look at the Hobbits and common Dwarves in LotR, for instance. They are plebes, but none of them sounds like a contemporary teenager…)

Sorry, no. People do speak like that in the real world, which does not have hobbits or dwarves. Some teenagers speak formally, some don’t. Some adults speak formally, some don’t.

People with certain accents (in nearly every country in the world) are accused of having low IQ because they are thought to speak funny — in the US, we make fun of “redneck” accents; Germans make fun of Bavarian; and so on.

I think you’re imposing your world view on the game, instead of immersing yourself in the world as you find it. I think part of that has to do with the skill of the actors, partly to do with the choice of words, and partly, because some of the writing is overly-simplistic and/or inconsistent with previous events.

I am not trying to say you have to like it. I’m saying that I’m not only nonplussed by it, even after re-reading what you’ve written, I still can’t agree it’s a problem; it’s just how this game is written.

In my opinion, which seems contrary to opinion of the majority, GW2 writing and especially dialogues were getting worse with each year since launch. HoT was terrible, LS3 is just a teenage sitcom full of cheesy lines. But majority of playerbase seems really like it, so i guess Anet figured out the style that appeals to lowest common denominator, because that makes larger profit.

I can’t agree that using contractions is ‘kiddy’ or childish. Even the OP uses contractions; it’s how modern English has evolved.

What some may find juvenile, may be just a misunderstanding of ArenaNet humor.

Likely, the use of language is the least of the Stories’ problems.

Good luck.

Ayrilana.1396:

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

Since when did slang become childish or being of low IQ?

That is not what I said.

Okay, there are two different things here that I criticize and you keep messing them up:
1) Excessive use of contemporary language (slang, contractions etc.).
2) Increase of childish dialogues (some of the content seems more fitting for Nickelodeon).

It is what you said. I could replace ‘childish’ with ‘kiddy’ if you want verbatim. You also mentioned low IQ in the post before mine.

Yes, in regard of #2, not #1. You claimed I had said that the use of contemporary slang was a sign of low IQ, which I did not. Please read more carefully and stop making wrong accusations, thank you.

Edit: Here is the proof, by the way, of what I said exactly:

I don’t think you do. It is not just about the colloquial language.

The dialogue often sounds like people of a low IQ are trying to have a conversation. And we all know IQ is not bound to your social background. The dialogue sounds like it was written so that even kids can follow the story (which, by the way, is an insult to kids, because many are very smart and some even more eloquent than many adults).

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

Since when did slang become childish or being of low IQ?

That is not what I said.

Okay, there are two different things here that I criticize and you keep messing them up:
1) Excessive use of contemporary language (slang, contractions etc.).
2) Increase of childish dialogues (some of the content seems more fitting for Nickelodeon).

It is what you said. I could replace ‘childish’ with ‘kiddy’ if you want verbatim. You also mentioned low IQ in the post before mine.

Yes, in regard of #2, not #1. You claimed I had said that the use of contemporary slang was a sign of low IQ, which I did not. Please read more carefully and stop making wrong accusations, thank you.

Edit: Here is the proof, by the way, of what I said exactly:

I don’t think you do. It is not just about the colloquial language.

The dialogue often sounds like people of a low IQ are trying to have a conversation. And we all know IQ is not bound to your social background. The dialogue sounds like it was written so that even kids can follow the story (which, by the way, is an insult to kids, because many are very smart and some even more eloquent than many adults).

That’s exactly what you’re suggesting and thank you for re-quoting the post so I didn’t have to.

Ayrilana.1396:

That’s exactly what you’re suggesting and thank you for re-quoting the post so I didn’t have to.

Obviously, you only see what you want to see, not what was actually said. I said that the aspect of telling things in a way so that even kids (or people of low IQ) would be able to follow the story was one thing I am critizing. That has nothing to do with the use of contemporary language, which is another thing I criticize.

I don’t know how much clearer I can make this for you to understand, but I am getting the feeling that, no matter in how many different ways I am trying to explain this to you, you will always read it the way you want it so you can keep on arguing. And that is something I am not getting further into. Good luck.

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

That’s exactly what you’re suggesting and thank you for re-quoting the post so I didn’t have to.

Obviously, you only see what you want to see, not what was actually said. I said that the aspect of telling things in a way so that even kids (or people of low IQ) would be able to follow the story was one thing I am critizing. That has nothing to do with the use of contemporary language, which is another thing I criticize.

I don’t know how much clearer I can make this for you to understand, but I am getting the feeling that, no matter in how many different ways I am trying to explain this to you, you will always read it the way you want it so you can keep on arguing. And that is something I am not getting further into. Good luck.

You’re accusing the dialogue of being as if people of low IQ are trying to have a conversation. Slang was part of the many examples that you had given along with contractions. This entire thread is about you criticizing dialogue because you find them to be “kiddy” or said by those of low IQ.

Once more, I just noticed the loveliness of the NPC chatter in the human home instance. So endearing!

Why can’t we have dialogue of that quality anymore which fits the setting of Tyria so well?

canach is the only GW2 npc left that I like, other than caithe. Taimi, Rox & a few others that aren’t human sounds like they ARE their character. Not like they’re reading from a script like braham or Eir. Not to mention the human & norn character voices that sounds like they reluctantly are reading from a script like “Oh, so 1 more take? groan. fine”

Chasind.3128:

canach is the only GW2 npc left that I like, other than caithe. Taimi, Rox & a few others that aren’t human sounds like they ARE their character. Not like they’re reading from a script like braham or Eir. Not to mention the human & norn character voices that sounds like they reluctantly are reading from a script like “Oh, so 1 more take? groan. fine”

Funny you say that, because Canach is the only Shakespearean voice actor in that group who refuses to read the script to sound as colloquial as it has been written. He manages to give those lines some class, in spite of the mediocre writing, which none of the other actors manages.

We get it. You like the Canach voice actor. Unless you can prove otherwise, the voice actor reads directly from the script which is written by the same writers that write everything else. There are other people that love other character voice actors more.

Ayrilana.1396:

We get it. You like the Canach voice actor. Unless you can prove otherwise, the voice actor reads directly from the script which is written by the same writers that write everything else. There are other people that love other character voice actors more.

As I mentioned before, he let’s some contractions slip, plus it’s in his intonation that does the trick. You can recite something in one way or another, and it will make all the difference.

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

We get it. You like the Canach voice actor. Unless you can prove otherwise, the voice actor reads directly from the script which is written by the same writers that write everything else. There are other people that love other character voice actors more.

As I mentioned before, he let’s some contractions slip, plus it’s in his intonation that does the trick. You can recite something in one way or another, and it will make all the difference.

Or the ones doing the typing for cutsence are cutting corners while typing maybe?

Ashantara.8731:

Ayrilana.1396:

We get it. You like the Canach voice actor. Unless you can prove otherwise, the voice actor reads directly from the script which is written by the same writers that write everything else. There are other people that love other character voice actors more.

As I mentioned before, he let’s some contractions slip, plus it’s in his intonation that does the trick. You can recite something in one way or another, and it will make all the difference.

Uh huh. In no way are contractions a bad thing otherwise I’m going to question why you’re using them.

Don’t contractions, in one form or another, date back to Old and Middle English?

Ashen.2907:

Don’t contractions, in one form or another, date back to Old and Middle English?

They did. The OP also stated something along the lines of “Shakespearean voice” but they apparently don’t know that Shakespeare used contractions too. Clearly his writing was “kiddy” and meant for those of lower IQ to understand.

I really like Rytlock and Canach, they make me happy and when they are part of the story, ect. I always look forward to it, because their dialogue is robust. The others, meh, as in, if they died, or where never part of the story again, I wouldn’t even be phased in the slightest.

I think fantasy where people talk like real people is better than a lot of fantasy. Why? Because none of these people are actually speaking English. They’re speaking some other language.

Why wouldn’t they use colloquial speech, or slang, or casual sentences. This is how people talk after all.

I don’t think this makes the dialogue more childish at all. What it makes it is less formal. Pretty sure it’s intentional and I, for one, like it.

I would like to comment some characters voices:

Canach- perfect sarcastic speaking to the people. Canach has the awful past- he is one of the fewest who survived the Asura’s experiment. Also he made lot of troubles in Southsun Cove and was prisoned, but Anise’s influence made him a better person, still sarcastic, but he is helpful so much. Anise, thank you for being a taskmaster.

Anise’s voice is amazing. Especially when she said: “She is a traitor and the criminal”~the Head of the Snake. I like how she jumps from another tone to another. It really shows her personality- seems cruel and awful person, but she is a person with good heart.

I admire the voice-actress of Jennah and Sylvari Female, because she is using different accents. Sylvari Female’s voice is so British, perfect British accent. She is from USA and I was surprised when I found out she is from USA not from GBR. For Jennah she uses a sensitive, calm eloquence. It’s different from Sylvari Female’s voice. Sylvari Female’s voice is my favorite.

Logan’s voice. This voice is so amazing. Troy Baker has such a beautiful voice. totally fits to the Logan’s personality- from his voice just exudes the dignity, pride. It’s my favorite male voice in this game.

I would tell about every voice from this game, but I doubt soemone would read all of my opinions, so every voice describes the personality of each character. What’s amazing.

Caithe’s (mystery in every word she speaks), Braham’s (prowess from his voice is overwhelming), Rytlock’s (his voice is just masterpiece. He accentuates every single not word, but letter. Every ABCDEF etc from his mouth is like he speaks everything with such a clearness, unbelievable), Zojja’s (so perfect voice for Asura- in every letter there is so much like “you are an ant for me, I am a genius”), Eir’s (Eir went through so many difficult tasks, she should have a depression, but her spirit remained strong, and her voice contains every bad or good experiences. Her voice makes me like her. Such a kindness in her voice.)

In this game I love the sounds, I love the music, I love voices of characters. Every voice is so different and every voice fit to the characters.

But the voices I don’t like is: Norn Female- I feel like it would be forced, it’s not natural. I wish Eir’s voice actress would give the voices to the Norn Females. Rox’s voice sounds like man’s. I think the actress had the mutation of the voice or something. I play in this game 4 years and by 2 years I thought Rox is a male…

In Kas’s voice is hate these hiccups. They destroy the voice. Her voice sounds like she is always scared.

Also Jory’s voice is weird- it’s mysterious, but not like Caithe’s. Caithe is mysterious in the different way. Marjory is a necromancer and she sounds like a ghost or something. That’s creepy.

I don’t say these voices are bad, but I just don’t like them.

About Taimi’s voice- short- she is just a teenager, but she is also an asura, so this is why her voice is just childish. He is like I AM A GENIUS, BOW BEFORE ME (as Asura actually think), but then she is HI HI COMMANDER, I MEAN POOBAH! and suddenly she is like THIS IS MY FAULT, I AM BAD ASURA, BAAAD.

I like her voice, but I don’t like her personality. But we have to understand she is just a teenager so she will be changing regularly.

Vayne.8563:

I think fantasy where people talk like real people is better than a lot of fantasy. Why? Because none of these people are actually speaking English. They’re speaking some other language.

Why wouldn’t they use colloquial speech, or slang, or casual sentences. This is how people talk after all.

I don’t think this makes the dialogue more childish at all. What it makes it is less formal. Pretty sure it’s intentional and I, for one, like it.

I’m with you.

I think people think that if there are popular colloquialisms in fantasy game dialogue that it’s somehow anachronistic, but Tyria isn’t Earth: it’s not part of our history (or our present or future), so if we are to suspend our disbelief that it’s being translated into an Earth language from a Tyrian one, one would expect it to be translated in modern terms.

Additionally, characters like Canach and Taimi et all should speak differently. That’s a part of characterization. I don’t mean to suggest that there’s a slippery slope that would happen if the writers took the OP’s advice, but a variance in speech is good writing, whether any individual subjectively likes it or not.

we kinda need to have the language not be all to old school shakespearan. not everybody can speak english of the highest level in europe english is pretty much a second language for most of us. Or u’d need subtitles for the friggin subtitles.

Idk i think you can compaire lw s2 and s3 with the pre rework gen 2 leggies and the post rework ones. S2 had the serious dialogue while s3 so far has all the joke dialugue.

IMO all of the voice acting in vanilla GW2 is horrible, when i want a story i expect the characters to sound like that, however, all the characters (including the PC) sounds like they read everything from a book.
the tone they use and speech they use ruins the atmosphere of the conversation, normally i like to listen to the story even when i know the text from start to end but GW2 voice overs are so bad the skip button is always pressed.

While I don’t mind people speaking informally, it does sometimes (only sometimes) sound a bit too Earth 2010s in style. The first time I see Taimi say “OMG! This superwep is totes imba, bae. LOL.” I will need to take a long break from the game.

Arden.7480:

Also Jory’s voice is weird- it’s mysterious, but not like Caithe’s.

She started out characterized as a detective, and it’s an obvious attempt to affect a sort of noirish, Lauren Bacall in The Big Sleep, sort of thing. It’s unavoidably a little cartoonish, which might be off-putting.

perilisk.1874:

Arden.7480:

Also Jory’s voice is weird- it’s mysterious, but not like Caithe’s.

She started out characterized as a detective, and it’s an obvious attempt to affect a sort of noirish, Lauren Bacall in The Big Sleep, sort of thing. It’s unavoidably a little cartoonish, which might be off-putting.

It’s a hard-boiled detective, intended to be more like Bogart than Bacall (or more properly, probably like Kathleen Turner as VI Warshawski). Maybe the actor didn’t nail it and maybe it no longer fits the narrative.

Braham is horrible! Lines and acting are atrocious! Just kill off the character and start again! Let’s grow up and have this fantasy be more like Game of Thrones than Mickey Mouse.

Zephyron.7081:

Braham is horrible! Lines and acting are atrocious! Just kill off the character and start again! Let’s grow up and have this fantasy be more like Game of Thrones than Mickey Mouse.

If this was game of thrones, your character would be dead already. lol

Zephyron.7081:

Braham is horrible! Lines and acting are atrocious! Just kill off the character and start again! Let’s grow up and have this fantasy be more like Game of Thrones than Mickey Mouse.

you mean the fantasy soap series…..no thanks…

Zephyron.7081:

Braham is horrible! Lines and acting are atrocious! Just kill off the character and start again! Let’s grow up and have this fantasy be more like Game of Thrones than Mickey Mouse.

I hope that you will never get into a meaningful, influential job position with that kind of horrible opinion <shudders>