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Posted by: zargnath.9524

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Me and my guildies tried to finnish this achievement. But as soon as we passed past a certain line mobs spawned at caithes group farther ahead killing them instantly. We tried stealthing and it didn’t work. We tried to find a different way past the mobs but didn’t find any. Have anyone managed to finnish this achievement and how did you do?

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Posted by: Kapina.9012

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I got all other story achievements quite easily. However this achievement (not under my command) seems impossible.
I tested this achievement plenty of times, and noticed that Caithe’s vigil group will engage in combat when you either check the dead body OR you proceed to the narrow pathway that leads to Caithe. I used all speed boosts + signet etc etc. and still couldn’t even make it to Caithe’s vigil group in time to save any of the vigil people there. And yes, those vigils count towards the achievement (at least the achievement will be gone from the boon list).

Am I missing something very obvious, like a sneaky pathway so you can skip Caithe altogether or what?

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Posted by: DarkLights.9532

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In exactly the same boat as you. This is the last achievement I need, tried everything I can think of. Starting to think it’s bugged or I’m just completely overlooking something.

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Posted by: Thorquist.8126

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Same problem here. Unless there’s some magical way, the npcs die way too fast.

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Posted by: VitalSuit.1980

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This achievement is impossible. I didn’t talk to Canach so I could kill ALL of the mordrem wolves and set up the mines. Once everything was cleared I talked to Canach and went back to the corpse that triggers Caithe and her squad spawning. Within seconds 3 priory died in her squad because they get butt-kittened by all the mordrem that spawn right on top of them. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get to them in time and prevent them from dying.

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Posted by: Zaklex.6308

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I believe you are attempting this incorrectly…don’t worry about saving the entire group, some are meant to die as they are not rezzable, try completing the instance with all of the survivors after reaching the observation point.

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Posted by: Chantelle.4539

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Same thing happened to us, it doesn’t seem to matter what we do, bombs, no bombs, just run straight to them, no matter what they die as soon as we reach them. As soon as we enter the instance we run straight to them skip mobs and all and same thing.

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Posted by: VitalSuit.1980

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I believe you are attempting this incorrectly…don’t worry about saving the entire group, some are meant to die as they are not rezzable, try completing the instance with all of the survivors after reaching the observation point.

Only 1 person in the instance is not rezzable, that’s the whisper’s initiate that’s between the 3 groups of wolves. Caithe’s entire group is alive and well though and they get absolutely annhilated by the mordrem and the achievement goes away. Right now even in a group setting this is impossible.

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

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This achievement is impossible. I didn’t talk to Canach so I could kill ALL of the mordrem wolves and set up the mines. Once everything was cleared I talked to Canach and went back to the corpse that triggers Caithe and her squad spawning. Within seconds 3 priory died in her squad because they get butt-kittened by all the mordrem that spawn right on top of them. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get to them in time and prevent them from dying.

Hmm, a long shot, but did you trap the corpse that groups stands directly on? It’s the only way i can think of to kill those mordrem in time, but i’m not sure if they’d set it off fast enough for the group to survive.

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Posted by: UnknownFreak.2805

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Good that I am not the only one with problems :p, hope this get fixed soon, and I did the same thing as VitalSuit said , Even without talk to Canach and kill all mordrem does not help either.

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Hmm, a long shot, but did you trap the corpse that groups stands directly on? It’s the only way i can think of to kill those mordrem in time, but i’m not sure if they’d set it off fast enough for the group to survive.

The only problem is, the mobs are invulnerable, you can see it if you are quick enough.
Otherwise I’ll be done with that achievement already.

How to crashreport…
Someone say game crash must be related to OOM
when you read the log it’s not related to that whatsoever…

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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all this proves is that you managed to bug it out… I bugged out the 75 to 0 achieve during my story run… doesn’t make me impressive lol.

Doesn’t appear this achievement is possible right now.

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Posted by: DarkLights.9532

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

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Posted by: Mnemonic.5160

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i don’t think that using mesmer’s portals or thief’s shadowstep is a bug, but this instant teleport to npcs can help

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Posted by: Mattus.1345

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Anyone tried doing it just like Canach said??
Avoid wolfes, avoid agro and go to Caithe. I did not have a time to try this…

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Posted by: Norseman.4280

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Huh I got through it with my ranger. It was challenging to be sure but all I did was talk to Canach, then go through and set each bomb/corpse thing, then agro the wolves and drag them into the bombs each time. When I got to Caithe, I hoped up on the rocks out of mob reach and sniped everything dead with my longbow. Caithe and I rezzed all the dead party members.
Made my way up to the lookout, which was the easiest part. Then comes the final attack during which I was downed 3 times but managed to rally off almost dead mobs each time. Then some darth vader head helicopter eventually showed up and saved my rear.
I don’t really have any secrets other than don’t let those mobs hit you much, they hit hard.

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Posted by: Sarevok.2638

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This achievement reeks of horrendous difficulty anyway because of the poison fields of Death the Mordem Seekers push out along with how the NPCs charge in more suicidish than Alesia into them during the stand off near the end.

It’s just another horrible escort achievement …wasn’t there one like this in GW1 as a bonus objective?

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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I think the NPC’s need 100x more health. they literally run into the poison and die in 1 hit… not sure how i’m supposed to stop that.

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Posted by: Shpongle.6025

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It’s just ridiculous. It’s worse than Liadri 8 orbs and I’m pretty sure It’s not supposed to be.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

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Posted by: Pennry.9215

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

It also triggers if the person’s who story it is doesn’t do anything. Any party member that passes that corpse threshold or looks at the indicated corpse will trigger the mobs to fail the achievement.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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They don’t patch Canachs triggering out, you only have to wait a few secs until he’ll follow you

Wait a few seconds where? as soon as we pass him it marks talking to him as complete and triggers caithe.

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Posted by: Alice Madness.6259

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Dunno… we’ve tried it a few times and it workes… now it doesn’t… I don’t get ist =/

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

Not entirely.

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Posted by: Alice Madness.6259

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I bet it’s a special way, which let Canach trigger the following spot.

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Posted by: One Note Chord.5031

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Just posting to add my voice to the chorus: I can’t figure out how this is supposed to be done, especially now that Caithe’s group automatically spawns. (They hotfixed that right in the middle of my attempts. )

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Posted by: harrison fang.1874

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Posted by: class.4802

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Noticed something weird. I went the other way. Between the fort and the spot where you see the monster at the end of the instance, there’s a caiteh and canach standing there (just their names). Maybe it’s bugged and heading this way would make them join you up and moving through the entire thing together

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Posted by: TripleT.6571

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Here is my video walk through on how to complete this achievement. I got a mesmer buddy to portal me.
http://youtu.be/z3k7Snaf03I

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Posted by: Donari.5237

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Huh I got through it with my ranger. It was challenging to be sure but all I did was talk to Canach, then go through and set each bomb/corpse thing, then agro the wolves and drag them into the bombs each time. When I got to Caithe, I hoped up on the rocks out of mob reach and sniped everything dead with my longbow. Caithe and I rezzed all the dead party members.
Made my way up to the lookout, which was the easiest part. Then comes the final attack during which I was downed 3 times but managed to rally off almost dead mobs each time. Then some darth vader head helicopter eventually showed up and saved my rear.
I don’t really have any secrets other than don’t let those mobs hit you much, they hit hard.

The problem under discussion isn’t completing the step, it’s doing the achieve where the NPC’s all stay alive.

I am concerned, as this achieve has to be done to do the meta and get a piece for the Luminescent shoulder. Hopefully it will be figured out soonish in the grand scheme of things.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Here is my video walk through on how to complete this achievement. I got a mesmer buddy to portal me.
http://youtu.be/z3k7Snaf03I

Try doing that now. The second you walk a few steps forward, the two NPC’s start the mission and it progresses as you pass the dead team member regardless as to whether you talked to Canach or not.

The premise behind the workaround is still doable but it’s a bit more complicated. Until they make the NPC’s invulnerable until you enter the open area before them, this is the only way it can be done.

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Posted by: Alilinke.7690

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Just completed it with a pug party

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Posted by: Paradox.1380

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There’s got to be a way to do this without a mesmer or a thief. =(

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Posted by: Skady.5916

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This Achievement is currently very gimmicky. You definitely gonna need a mesmer for that

1. Clear 2 groups of trash + patrol. Do not approach mordrem corpse in the choke
2.You wanna skip event that is triggered by crossing over mordrem corpse in the choke. Use traited mesmer blink for that, then stealth yourself all the way to Caithe and close portal to get group across.
3.Clear 2 groups of trash, open portal again and get ready.
4.Instance owner with mesmer should go back to the corpse to trigger Caithe event, close portal right after. Second portal needed to bring instance owner quickly to Caithe to make mobs vulnerable to damage

Footage on youtube, made after patch 11/04:
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Posted by: Pandaman.4758

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Wow, just tried this and I lose the “Not Under My Watch” buff as soon as I reach the third mordrem body if I try to be careful, but if I try to charge my way through Canach and the two useless NPCs that follow from the beginning go down instantly because they had their backs to the hounds.

This achievement is impossible to do solo unless you glitch something. Holy kitten cakes.

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Posted by: Paradox.1380

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Colin Johanson Said It looks to be possibly Bugged and Not Working Correctly: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/s2/Not-under-my-command-Solo/first#post4539100

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Posted by: Becka Williams.4978

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I managed it. We had a super healer guardian. I inched forward to get the body, then ran back to spawn, while they healed them. We managed to kill all the mobs before they died. If you can do this part, it’s easy as cake afterwards

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Posted by: Nyx Xox.3540

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I completed this with my Necro and one other Necro. We started interacted with the first dead body then talked to no one. Went ahead and killed everything. Then we set the bomb where the NPCS spawn. The instance owner then spoke to canach. Then the instance owner who was a necro ran up a bit and used spectral walk while I (necro) stayed back where the npcs spawn. The enemy’s that spawn are invun until the instance owner is back but they can be feared I just feared them and the instance owner used spectral walk to get back to me fast and we killed them no problem Takes some creative thinking but it is def possible!!

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Posted by: Sqweebles.8540

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I has to be said. Anet once again hotfixes a way to bypass their fail. But it will be another 2 weeks before they fix the fail. Had a party try lots of different ways, with stealth, speed, ports. Honestly the way I think it has to be done based on the other comments and my experiences is, instance owner is a Mesmer to make sure he can port back in time. Then blink everyone past the corpse that spawns the minions, after killing everything, set a port where the npcs die, instance owner (Mesmer) runs back and sets a portal right before triggering the spawn. Then ports back immediately so everything is now vulnerable. The first couple run throughs in beta should have shown this bug.

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Posted by: Nyx Xox.3540

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I did it without a mesmer only 2 necros so its possible w/out a mesmer

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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I did it without a mesmer only 2 necros so its possible w/out a mesmer

That’s true. They have that port skill.

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Posted by: Mattus.1345

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

There was no changes to the story instance or achievement in the patch yesterday. This achievement is doable.

VERY IMPORTANT step is that, instance owner HAVE to talk with first body. Canach will spawn and follow you around – and that will make sure, that story will NOT update at certain map locations.
When Canach follows you, you can do everything – clear mobs, put mines etc. Let everyone in party stay at Caithe spawn point.
Instance owner then should speak with Canach and go near second body. When you get close (or interact with 2nd body) mobs will spawn at Caithe location.
Run as fast as u can (or better – use prepared mesmer portal) and join your fellow party members who are defending NPC.

It worked at my pug group, we tried diffirent ways for more than 2 hours. Only that worked for us

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

There was no patch yesterday. This achievement is doable.

VERY IMPORTANT step is that, instance owner HAVE to talk with first body. Canach will spawn and follow you around – and that will make sure, that story will NOT update at certain map locations.
When Canach follows you, you can do everything – clear mobs, put mines etc. Let everyone in party stay at Caithe spawn point.
Instance owner then should speak with Canach and go near second body. When you get close (or interact with 2nd body) mobs will spawn at Caithe location.
Run as fast as u can (or better – use prepared mesmer portal) and join your fellow party members who are defending NPC.

It worked at my pug group, we tried diffirent ways for more than 2 hours. Only that worked for us

You cannot run as you will not get there quick enough. Using ports is mandatory until they fix it.

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Posted by: Mattus.1345

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

There was no patch yesterday. This achievement is doable.

VERY IMPORTANT step is that, instance owner HAVE to talk with first body. Canach will spawn and follow you around – and that will make sure, that story will NOT update at certain map locations.
When Canach follows you, you can do everything – clear mobs, put mines etc. Let everyone in party stay at Caithe spawn point.
Instance owner then should speak with Canach and go near second body. When you get close (or interact with 2nd body) mobs will spawn at Caithe location.
Run as fast as u can (or better – use prepared mesmer portal) and join your fellow party members who are defending NPC.

It worked at my pug group, we tried diffirent ways for more than 2 hours. Only that worked for us

There was a patch just look at the notes.

You cannot run as you will not get there quick enough. Using ports is mandatory until they fix it.

Patch was 22 hours ago. We did this method today, 2 hours ago.

You said there was no patch yesterday which there was. I was making a correction to your statement that there wasn’t.

I made changes to my first post so everyone will know what i mean. Also I deleted my second post to keep thread clean. (Will delete this post too :P )

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Posted by: Becka Williams.4978

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

There was no patch yesterday. This achievement is doable.

VERY IMPORTANT step is that, instance owner HAVE to talk with first body. Canach will spawn and follow you around – and that will make sure, that story will NOT update at certain map locations.
When Canach follows you, you can do everything – clear mobs, put mines etc. Let everyone in party stay at Caithe spawn point.
Instance owner then should speak with Canach and go near second body. When you get close (or interact with 2nd body) mobs will spawn at Caithe location.
Run as fast as u can (or better – use prepared mesmer portal) and join your fellow party members who are defending NPC.

It worked at my pug group, we tried diffirent ways for more than 2 hours. Only that worked for us

You cannot run as you will not get there quick enough. Using ports is mandatory until they fix it.

I ran, no portals, made it in time. I used speed boost, plus greatword movement skills on warrior.

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Posted by: Machiavell.7396

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Arenanet, for 6 gods sake! Just give those npcs immunity for time before we actually approach them…

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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Yeah it’s not impossible. I’d say it’s definitely bugged though. Took a few tries with a coordinated party, skipping Canach and clearing everything. Having portals to get the instance owner there instantly so that the mobs became vulnerable. Fears and mesmer curtain. Got it in the end. Definitely not how it’s supposed to be done. But it can be done.

They patched this method out.

Canach now triggers even if you don’t talk to him. Even with full stealth + swiftness not stopping to kill anything the achievement failed before we could even get to caithe.

There was no patch yesterday. This achievement is doable.

VERY IMPORTANT step is that, instance owner HAVE to talk with first body. Canach will spawn and follow you around – and that will make sure, that story will NOT update at certain map locations.
When Canach follows you, you can do everything – clear mobs, put mines etc. Let everyone in party stay at Caithe spawn point.
Instance owner then should speak with Canach and go near second body. When you get close (or interact with 2nd body) mobs will spawn at Caithe location.
Run as fast as u can (or better – use prepared mesmer portal) and join your fellow party members who are defending NPC.

It worked at my pug group, we tried diffirent ways for more than 2 hours. Only that worked for us

You cannot run as you will not get there quick enough. Using ports is mandatory until they fix it.

I ran, no portals, made it in time. I used speed boost, plus greatword movement skills on warrior.

You have something that not ever class has and got very very lucky with the thrashers. Quite often they’re dead before you even round that final corner and that’s even with speed boosts.

What I’m worried about for everyone else is that they’ll stealth fix the current way for everyone to do it and then force them to wait until the next episode until a fix comes.