Guild Wars 2

Right now Primordus is still lacking a proper luitenant. There are some that will say the Megadestroyer is his luitenant, again some will completely deny this as the megadestroyer is nothing more than another random but bigger destroyer.

Now that we’ve moved into the living story, to a point where Primordus is securing his spot at the top of the food chain, isn’t it about time we get a proper world boss for the king of destruction?

TBF, since the megadestroyer isn’t in a level 80 zone, I doesn’t feel it’s right to overhaul him to this position. I was thinking to have his champion on the Fiery Island Chain, although that might be a little too close to home. The problem with updating the Megadestroyer to this role is the same problem with the Shatterer, because it’s not in a lv80 zone, you can’t use the full potential to make a proper boss. and level 80 people will steamroll over it. A disgrace not befitting the champion of the king of the food chain.

The Shatterer isn’t in a level 80 zone. Tequatl isn’t in a level 80 zone. The location of the lieutenant isn’t as important as how big the fight is.

I haven’t done the megadestroyer in a while, so I don’t know if the battle would count as a lieutenant fight or not. However, Mordremoth only had the Shadow of the Dragon from S2E4 and possibly the Mouth of Mordremoth down in Dragon’s Stand, which is more similar to the Eyes and Mouth of Zhaitan than a proper lieutenant. Either way, Primordus will either get his lieutenant in the story or when we head to areas with more concentrated destroyers. There are so few locations where destroyers are found, so it makes sense we haven’t met his new lieutenant.

Rognik.2579:

The Shatterer isn’t in a level 80 zone. Tequatl isn’t in a level 80 zone. The location of the lieutenant isn’t as important as how big the fight is.

aesthetically, I agree, but you can’t deny that people can faceroll tequatl and shatterer event, even after that ‘complexity’ update

Amaimon.7823:

Right now Primordus is still lacking a proper luitenant. There are some that will say the Megadestroyer is his luitenant, again some will completely deny this as the megadestroyer is nothing more than another random but bigger destroyer.

Now that we’ve moved into the living story, to a point where Primordus is securing his spot at the top of the food chain, isn’t it about time we get a proper world boss for the king of destruction?

TBF, since the megadestroyer isn’t in a level 80 zone, I doesn’t feel it’s right to overhaul him to this position. I was thinking to have his champion on the Fiery Island Chain, although that might be a little too close to home. The problem with updating the Megadestroyer to this role is the same problem with the Shatterer, because it’s not in a lv80 zone, you can’t use the full potential to make a proper boss. and level 80 people will steamroll over it. A disgrace not befitting the champion of the king of the food chain.

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

zealex.9410:

Amaimon.7823:

Right now Primordus is still lacking a proper luitenant. There are some that will say the Megadestroyer is his luitenant, again some will completely deny this as the megadestroyer is nothing more than another random but bigger destroyer.

Now that we’ve moved into the living story, to a point where Primordus is securing his spot at the top of the food chain, isn’t it about time we get a proper world boss for the king of destruction?

TBF, since the megadestroyer isn’t in a level 80 zone, I doesn’t feel it’s right to overhaul him to this position. I was thinking to have his champion on the Fiery Island Chain, although that might be a little too close to home. The problem with updating the Megadestroyer to this role is the same problem with the Shatterer, because it’s not in a lv80 zone, you can’t use the full potential to make a proper boss. and level 80 people will steamroll over it. A disgrace not befitting the champion of the king of the food chain.

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

I guess it could be argued that either the Blighting Trees or those big legendary champions they spawn could be Lieutenants. Even if they don’t, the Shadow of the Dragon was killed relatively recent to HoT beginning and HoT only spanned a short period (weeks?). Perhaps too soon for another powerful entity to rise.

Randulf.7614:

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

I just hope these aren’t in the top of the ranks in primordus’ army because if that the case i cant imagine how much of a joke primordus would be. And thats sad because he was the first to awake and he holds a special spot for many ppl

zealex.9410:

Randulf.7614:

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

I just hope these aren’t in the top of the ranks in primordus’ army because if that the case i cant imagine how much of a joke primordus would be. And thats sad because he was the first to awake and he holds a special spot for many ppl

To be fair, I think my group killed The Great Destroyer in about 10 seconds with pain inverter, so I wouldn’t factor mechanics into the equation too much, esp given Mega gets beaten up by about 50 odd hardened Tyrian Heroes

Randulf.7614:

zealex.9410:

Randulf.7614:

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

I just hope these aren’t in the top of the ranks in primordus’ army because if that the case i cant imagine how much of a joke primordus would be. And thats sad because he was the first to awake and he holds a special spot for many ppl

To be fair, I think my group killed The Great Destroyer in about 10 seconds with pain inverter, so I wouldn’t factor mechanics into the equation too much, esp given Mega gets beaten up by about 50 odd hardened Tyrian Heroes

its more like 50 od hardened tyrian heroes afk aa’ed it to death

But wasn’t the ‘luitenant’ of Mordremoth the trio of corrupted Sylvan?
The luitenant doesn’t have to be one individual.
We know there are 5 undead dragons, of which 3 are in the dungeon, and 1 is tequatl.
There are (I think) two Claws of Jormag.
The shatterer gets reborn.
And originally The Great Destroyer was the luitenant. but he’s already .. do we call a dead destroyer repaired? or more destroyed?

Amaimon.7823:

But wasn’t the ‘luitenant’ of Mordremoth the trio of corrupted Sylvan?
The luitenant doesn’t have to be one individual.
We know there are 5 undead dragons, of which 3 are in the dungeon, and 1 is tequatl.
There are (I think) two Claws of Jormag.
The shatterer gets reborn.
And originally The Great Destroyer was the luitenant. but he’s already .. do we call a dead destroyer repaired? or more destroyed?

The Destroooooyed Great destrooooyeeeer.. hmm sounds catchy

Amaimon.7823:

Rognik.2579:

The Shatterer isn’t in a level 80 zone. Tequatl isn’t in a level 80 zone. The location of the lieutenant isn’t as important as how big the fight is.

aesthetically, I agree, but you can’t deny that people can faceroll tequatl and shatterer event, even after that ‘complexity’ update

Now they can. It took several days before anyone was able to defeat Tequatl and months at least before successful kills became common place.

But that’s true of any difficult content. Sooner or later people learn how to do it and then it becomes easy. You can see this yourself with pretty much anything in-game you remember having trouble with. For me it’s jumping puzzles. I spent an entire afternoon trying and failing to complete Dark Reverie when I first found it, I must have fallen and died and started over 10 times. Last time I went there I did it on the first try without really thinking about it. The puzzle itself hasn’t changed at all, but I’ve gotten better at the game so now it’s easy. It’s the same with Tequatl.

And the Shatterer to some extent, but that was intentionally made easier than Tequatl.

zealex.9410:

Randulf.7614:

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

I just hope these aren’t in the top of the ranks in primordus’ army because if that the case i cant imagine how much of a joke primordus would be. And thats sad because he was the first to awake and he holds a special spot for many ppl

I never take the mechanical difficulty of a fight to indicate the plot power of the creature in a MMO. I mean Zhaitan itself is easier than ever now, mechanically you can solo it. But clearly it’s mechanically easy because the story has us have support, airships, an army, etc. – even though mechanically those things don’t really play into the encounter at all. I would say the same applies to any lieutenants that are mechanically easier than they should be story wise.

Hmm.. I can’t help thinking about Deathwing each time I see Primordiums

Moonyeti.3296:

zealex.9410:

Randulf.7614:

There are other issues with Mega too;

Megadestroyer is also dead before this season takes place since the snapshot of Mt Maelstrom is prior even to killing Zhaitan. Shatterer is replaced each time and Tequatl is a bit anomalous because (sort of) he gets defeated, falls into the water, absorbs some of Zhaitans magic and returns more powerful before we kill/defeat him, so whilst he is stuck in a time loop, it’s one that makes sense.
He is also not unique as we see in Sorrows Embrace (although that one appeared slightly smaller?).

Whatever Lt(s) serve Primordus now, have yet to reveal themselves – I’m hoping we see something with the next episode if we got back to the RoF, if not I’m really hoping the expac will bring one in along with Drakkar for Jormag.

I just hope these aren’t in the top of the ranks in primordus’ army because if that the case i cant imagine how much of a joke primordus would be. And thats sad because he was the first to awake and he holds a special spot for many ppl

I never take the mechanical difficulty of a fight to indicate the plot power of the creature in a MMO. I mean Zhaitan itself is easier than ever now, mechanically you can solo it. But clearly it’s mechanically easy because the story has us have support, airships, an army, etc. – even though mechanically those things don’t really play into the encounter at all. I would say the same applies to any lieutenants that are mechanically easier than they should be story wise.

Yes but with expansions the game gets harder. And when we got to see Zhaitans luitenants they were kitten and huge you can say the same for whatever the destroyer bosses are.

trixantea.1230:

Hmm.. I can’t help thinking about Deathwing each time I see Primordiums

If we don’t get to fight Primordius’ back pimples in the air, while balancing, I’m gonna ask for my money back, yo.

SlippyCheeze.5483:

trixantea.1230:

Hmm.. I can’t help thinking about Deathwing each time I see Primordiums

If we don’t get to fight Primordius’ back pimples in the air, while balancing, I’m gonna ask for my money back, yo.

Pls no that was actually bad, I’d prefer we fight primordus in the way the pic i uploaded shows it (half body and wing over a volcany while lower half still below it) and we simply beat the living kitten out of before he fully emerges.

We could work super-hard to trim his fingernails, while he kinda just sits with his head underwater after we kill the back acne?

Rognik.2579:

T However, Mordremoth only had the Shadow of the Dragon from S2E4 and possibly the Mouth of Mordremoth down in Dragon’s Stand, which is more similar to the Eyes and Mouth of Zhaitan than a proper lieutenant.

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

Malice.8439:

Rognik.2579:

T However, Mordremoth only had the Shadow of the Dragon from S2E4 and possibly the Mouth of Mordremoth down in Dragon’s Stand, which is more similar to the Eyes and Mouth of Zhaitan than a proper lieutenant.

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

and his three big guys? Axemaster, Stavemaster and that third one (yea I know of ’em is femme fatale)

Malice.8439:

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

Maybe the Vinewrath. He didn’t really feel threatening, though, as he never left the cave.
Faolain was converted late in the story, so she had little time to be a lieutenant. However, I suppose she’d fit the role if she’d been more present.
The Pale Tree counts as much as Glint does, as neither one was on the Dragon’s side when we met them. We don’t fight the Pale Tree, while we do fight the Shadow of the Dragon.

Amaimon.7823:

and his three big guys? Axemaster, Stavemaster and that third one (yea I know of ’em is femme fatale)

They felt more like personal guards than lieutenants as they weren’t leading the charge into Tyria.

Rognik.2579:

Malice.8439:

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

Maybe the Vinewrath. He didn’t really feel threatening, though, as he never left the cave.
Faolain was converted late in the story, so she had little time to be a lieutenant. However, I suppose she’d fit the role if she’d been more present.
The Pale Tree counts as much as Glint does, as neither one was on the Dragon’s side when we met them. We don’t fight the Pale Tree, while we do fight the Shadow of the Dragon.

Amaimon.7823:

and his three big guys? Axemaster, Stavemaster and that third one (yea I know of ’em is femme fatale)

They felt more like personal guards than lieutenants as they weren’t leading the charge into Tyria.

but as a trio, weren’t they in charge of eradicating/enslaving the races that lived around in the jungle. I remember having a showdown with the Stavemaster when you choose to defend the itzel camp in the story. I mean, sure, individually they’re not the real champion of mordremoth, but as a trio they had one of the highest roles, and we had to kill them several times because unlike most creatures, they actually had tactical retreats slowly before they died. Only at the islands did they stay to fight till their last breath.

Rognik.2579:

Malice.8439:

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

Maybe the Vinewrath. He didn’t really feel threatening, though, as he never left the cave.
Faolain was converted late in the story, so she had little time to be a lieutenant. However, I suppose she’d fit the role if she’d been more present.
The Pale Tree counts as much as Glint does, as neither one was on the Dragon’s side when we met them. We don’t fight the Pale Tree, while we do fight the Shadow of the Dragon.

Vinewrath couldn’t be, he.. it.. was really strong, but that was because it was our first encounter with a mordrem chieftain, and he had 4 champions at his beg and call. Later on we see multiple Vinewraths during the Story instances (I don’t think they appear in the wild anywhere). but they’re designed as overpowered turrets so you just have to avoid them. But you can kill them if you’re a good dodger and can outlast them. Although there’s no point as they just block passages where the story instance ends, and they quickly respawn.

Rognik.2579:

Malice.8439:

What about the Vinewrath? Faolain? The Pale Tree?

Maybe the Vinewrath. He didn’t really feel threatening, though, as he never left the cave.
Faolain was converted late in the story, so she had little time to be a lieutenant. However, I suppose she’d fit the role if she’d been more present.
The Pale Tree counts as much as Glint does, as neither one was on the Dragon’s side when we met them. We don’t fight the Pale Tree, while we do fight the Shadow of the Dragon.

Amaimon.7823:

and his three big guys? Axemaster, Stavemaster and that third one (yea I know of ’em is femme fatale)

They felt more like personal guards than lieutenants as they weren’t leading the charge into Tyria.

They’re all dragon champions, technically, as is the Vinetooth Prime in Auric Basin (the big daddy of Vinetooths), and the Octovine.

Dragon champions come in a multitude of “levels”, some weaker while others far more powerful.

The Shadow of the Dragon was the only one of dragon shape, and likely the strongest, but far from the only one.

And Faolain was converted halfway through HoT, a little before even… She was definitely a dragon champion (or lieutenant if you prefer) given that she ordered about a bunch of mordrem – which is the #1 role of a dragon champion, ordering lesser minions about. Because of that, more powerful champions have a tendency to order lesser champions – like the Vinewrath ordering the 4 legendaries during the main part of SW meta, the 5 Breach champions, and the 3 VW champions – all, I would argue, to be lesser dragon champions; similarly, Blightghast ordered around the lesser champions Thaddeus Ghostrite, Vizier Ironghoul, Admiral Feiste Bakkir, and Lord Zhim Alarjann during the assaults on Claw Island, Lion’s Arch, and the Order HQs.

Side note about Vinewrath “never leaving the cave” – it did… we never even kill the Vinewrath, it retreats when we kill the champions beneath its command. Plus, I suspect that those giant vines throughout Silverwastes are the Vinewrath’s roots. And they directly attack Camp Resolve in the story. We then fight those roots more directly in Verdant Brink.

This said, while Primordus has not had any dragon-shaped champions about in GW2, he has had dragon champions thus far. Five of them, actually. – two of them being open world bosses (Megadestroyer and Molten Dominator). Sadly, they are far cries from being worthy of the rankings of Shatterer, Tequatl, and Claw of Jormag and the other open world dragon champions (of which there are many, especially for Zhaitan).

It’s not impossible that Primordus’ main forces are being held up in the depths of Tyria, fighting against the dwarves.

Malice.8439:

It’s not impossible that Primordus’ main forces are being held up in the depths of Tyria, fighting against the dwarves.

Iirc i think either wp said it or i read it somewhere else the destroywers we see now are have the model of the troops of the great destroyer. I really hope there are some quite kitten models for them coming in the future.

The destroyers of GW2 are nothing like the GW1 destroyers. One theory is that, seeing how destroyers are made in mockery of living beings, that the GW1 destroyers were in mockery of races living during the previous dragonrise (thus explaining why one, the mesmer, had an almost mursaat-like look); now that Primrodus is up, they’re likely in mockery of modern races only now.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The destroyers of GW2 are nothing like the GW1 destroyers. One theory is that, seeing how destroyers are made in mockery of living beings, that the GW1 destroyers were in mockery of races living during the previous dragonrise (thus explaining why one, the mesmer, had an almost mursaat-like look); now that Primrodus is up, they’re likely in mockery of modern races only now.

Yea, one personal theory of mine was that the destroyers in GW1 looked very alien, but they also reminded me of plants and fungi that grow exclusively in caves and dark areas.
Others reminded me of trolls, wurms, etc, also creatures that live underground. As a result, I came to believe that in the previous cycle, the destroyers close to never on the surface.

I had to look up the Destroyer of Thoughts, and it does have that humanoid shape. Although maybe because of the huge arm I have a hard time comparing it to a mursaat. but then again, they’re only mockeries in design.

Destroyer of
-Bones: Look like cave trolls
-Flesh: Look like half beetle, half troll
-Sinew: Propably mostly beetle
-Deeds: This is a tough one. but it looks like one of those ants that gets on it’s hind legs
-Hordes: Looks like a flytrap fungus or plant
-Lifes: one of those antspiders that digs kitten and waits for others to walk into it
-Hope: CLEARLY ARACHNOPHOBIA
-Thoughts: something humanoid with high intelligence.. mursaat propably
-Souls: See Thoughts
-Compassion: Again troll-ish I think.

Destroyer of Earth is something special. It’s just a set of discs

zealex.9410:

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

The upper pic looks like something the Charr would make as a weapon and lower more like the dragon I’d want to fight. Like you described later on half above and half underground. Preventing it from rising up and scorching every living thing.

Weli.4568:

zealex.9410:

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

The upper pic looks like something the Charr would make as a weapon and lower more like the dragon I’d want to fight. Like you described later on half above and half underground. Preventing it from rising up and scorching every living thing.

Or it looks like a shatterererererrr that has primordus’ essense fire (in case we fight that in the next expac “u heard it here first folks”).

Amaimon.7823:

Destroyer of
-Bones: Look like cave trolls
-Flesh: Look like half beetle, half troll
-Sinew: Propably mostly beetle
-Deeds: This is a tough one. but it looks like one of those ants that gets on it’s hind legs
-Hordes: Looks like a flytrap fungus or plant
-Lifes: one of those antspiders that digs kitten and waits for others to walk into it
-Hope: CLEARLY ARACHNOPHOBIA
-Thoughts: something humanoid with high intelligence.. mursaat propably
-Souls: See Thoughts
-Compassion: Again troll-ish I think.

Destroyer of Earth is something special. It’s just a set of discs

For me it’s:

- Bones/Compassion: Jotun (tall, wide; maybe like GW1 trolls though)
- Flesh: Charr (mostly same posture as charr, and that tail)
- Sinew: Troll (they look almost identical to modern Destroyer Trolls); alternatively, possibly charr due to tail (only difference between Destroyers of Sinew and Destroyer Trolls)
- Deeds/Hordes: Both look like they may be mockeries of some kind of insects
- Lifes: Uses same shape as the stationary fungi in Eye of the North.
- Hope: Spider
- Thoughts/Souls: Mursaat, given the “wings” in the back, and the floating humanoid shape (mursaat are also well known to be tied to souls and mental mishaps).
- Earth/Chaos Discs: Just animated mounds of land.

Weli.4568:

zealex.9410:

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

The upper pic looks like something the Charr would make as a weapon and lower more like the dragon I’d want to fight. Like you described later on half above and half underground. Preventing it from rising up and scorching every living thing.

The second picture is actually 100% not tied to GW2 at all. Both are done by Kekai Kotaki, but the top one is freelance work which, apparently ended up in GW2 while the other, while freelance work, has never been tied to GW2. You can see both of the pieces on Kekai Kotaki’s art site at the bottom of his freelance page.

But because Kekai had been the “art face” of GW since Factions, and his freelance and personal art have the same style as his art for GW series, people take his free lance art and have thought “it’s for GW!” Wrongly. Not the first time it’s happened, won’t be the last.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Amaimon.7823:

Destroyer of
-Bones: Look like cave trolls
-Flesh: Look like half beetle, half troll
-Sinew: Propably mostly beetle
-Deeds: This is a tough one. but it looks like one of those ants that gets on it’s hind legs
-Hordes: Looks like a flytrap fungus or plant
-Lifes: one of those antspiders that digs kitten and waits for others to walk into it
-Hope: CLEARLY ARACHNOPHOBIA
-Thoughts: something humanoid with high intelligence.. mursaat propably
-Souls: See Thoughts
-Compassion: Again troll-ish I think.

Destroyer of Earth is something special. It’s just a set of discs

For me it’s:

- Bones/Compassion: Jotun (tall, wide; maybe like GW1 trolls though)
- Flesh: Charr (mostly same posture as charr, and that tail)
- Sinew: Troll (they look almost identical to modern Destroyer Trolls); alternatively, possibly charr due to tail (only difference between Destroyers of Sinew and Destroyer Trolls)
- Deeds/Hordes: Both look like they may be mockeries of some kind of insects
- Lifes: Uses same shape as the stationary fungi in Eye of the North.
- Hope: Spider
- Thoughts/Souls: Mursaat, given the “wings” in the back, and the floating humanoid shape (mursaat are also well known to be tied to souls and mental mishaps).
- Earth/Chaos Discs: Just animated mounds of land.

Weli.4568:

zealex.9410:

Sneakily points to dis and hopes anet didn’t make it just to have something cool for the episode. Also why didnt mordy in hot had any dragon luitenant like he did in lw 2? (A plea for more actual dragon luitenants)

The upper pic looks like something the Charr would make as a weapon and lower more like the dragon I’d want to fight. Like you described later on half above and half underground. Preventing it from rising up and scorching every living thing.

The second picture is actually 100% not tied to GW2 at all. Both are done by Kekai Kotaki, but the top one is freelance work which, apparently ended up in GW2 while the other, while freelance work, has never been tied to GW2. You can see both of the pieces on Kekai Kotaki’s art site at the bottom of his freelance page.

But because Kekai had been the “art face” of GW since Factions, and his freelance and personal art have the same style as his art for GW series, people take his free lance art and have thought “it’s for GW!” Wrongly. Not the first time it’s happened, won’t be the last.

I took a look at his site and the “about me” section. Did he leave anet?

Yes, he left ArenaNet a while ago. Shortly after GW2 released, before the Living World officially started.

well rip his art style is really good ill miss it