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Posted by: Laken.9018

Laken.9018

Today I reached this fight. I have been trying to do this fight for about 20 minutes now. I can’t. I would like to give some feedback on this fight.

The fight itself is fairly well balanced. The strategy is clear but the issue is it’s nigh on impossible to solo for the following three reasons

Reason 1: Allies
None of your allies do anything. I have 4 allies here . We have fought together through thick and thin. The entire section is about us getting back together after being split
Why is it then that my allies are doing nothing. Is it intentional or are they bugged?

Reason 2 : Caithe
This ties in to the above. Thoughout this mission Caithe has been amazing about getting you back up if your a solo player.
She suddenly stops once this fight kicks in. If this is foreshadowing for what is to come then cool but as it is your expecting her aid and it just stops..

Reason 3 : Predator Health Regen Timer
Now I’m not sure how this works but the issue is because the Predator is not drawing any aggro off your allies due to them being broken. The Predator can and will regen its health unless you respawn, run to the gate , hit f and tag him.
This timing has to be perfect, most of the time by the time I got back in to the boss a few milliseconds made the difference between it reclaiming 5% health and it regenerating fully

Please either extend this or move the respawn point closer to the centre so the player has more time to get back in and if need be attrition the Predator to death.

Thank you as always though for a beautiful game. This was just proving frustrating.

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Posted by: Ardid.7203

Ardid.7203

Sound like a glitch, or you are dying too fast. Try to move all the time, keep the swarm away from you, and evade the vine attacks. Keep damaging the Predator without stop. It is more important not to die than to kill it fast.

Just circle around while attacking nonstop, and focus on evading correctly.

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that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks

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Posted by: Laken.9018

Laken.9018

I was doing that but the thing is if you make a misstep and die and don’t get back in time. You need to do the entire thing again.
It takes two fireballs to do 1% damage as I’m a staff ele. That means need to land 200 hits without making a single mistake to assure victory

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Posted by: Healix.5819

Healix.5819

The boss can be difficult for melee-only, but you really shouldn’t have a problem as a staff elementalist.

The troll shouldn’t be hitting you at all. Simply stay at range and watch for it to throw its swarm. When it does, move to the side so the incoming puddle doesn’t hit you. If you were already moving, change your direction so it’s thrown away from you. With the 3rd one (usually), distance yourself from them, since it’s probably going to point at you next, causing the puddles to chase you. When that happens, simply keep moving to outrun them.

For the floor AoE, simply watch the path it’s taking. It gives you like a 3 second warning with the marks on the floor before it pops. Wait in line for the next to pop, then just run into it. Alternatively, it takes about 1 second for the line to progress, so simply dodge it.

It takes two fireballs to do 1% damage as I’m a staff ele. That means need to land 200 hits without making a single mistake to assure victory

Good thing that lava font and meteor shower are worth like 50 fireballs then. I recall it taking around 3 or 4 minutes for a zerker staff elementalist.

Use burning retreat as another evade or to further distance yourself from the swarms.

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Posted by: BrettM.9062

BrettM.9062

I’m having the same problem with my new revenant. My other six characters did the story long ago, when it first came out, and I remember the NPCs fighting then, as well as Braham putting up his bubble at the Predator. Now they do nothing at any time. While you’re going through the maze rounding them up, the ones you’ve already found will just stand around with their thumbs up their behinds during every encounter. When you get to the Predator, they do the same. You have to do every bit of the fighting yourself. At least Caithe will rally you while you’re in the maze, but she stops when you get to the predator.

This can’t be right. What’s the point of the NPCs even being there, then, except to set up the situation with Caithe? You might just as well go right to the Predator and rescue them later, if you think they’re worth bothering with.

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Posted by: Clearasil.4019

Clearasil.4019

I just reached this fight as well. I takes an extremely long time to get his health down. Until 20% the fight isn’t that difficult but then he “enrages” and it gets really difficult. My companions just follow me around during the fight, they’re not helping or reviving when I go down.

I managed to do it after an hour of trying, but I’m never doing that again!

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Posted by: ValeN.3129

ValeN.3129

Thank you for making this the worst experience i’ve had in a game in a long time. I would like, try more. But after playing with big latency and my tendinitis hitting up after 30 minutes trying to kill this with a melee guardian. I give up. Nice scamming me for 200 gems in order to buy this piece of trash content.

1 month and this hasn’t been fixed? Guess a reminder is in order.

It has gone back to full health after drpping it to 5% despite my best efforts trying to circumvent your buggy fight.

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Posted by: Eggbutt.6213

Eggbutt.6213

I did season 2 for the first time yesterday and I have to say it’s the worst fight in the whole thing. I could memorise its patterns of attack and avoid them, but by the six it has too much health and no mechanics to kill, you just gotta go ham on it for a long time. At that point, I was fully convinced my allies were bugged and supposed to help, but nope!

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Posted by: sazberryftw.3809

sazberryftw.3809

The NPCs not fighting is a bug. They used to fight when the epsiode first launched. It’s been highlighted by quite a few people but no fix yet.

I repeated the instance today for the rewards on my thief and i thought it was hard at first and it did reset on me because I got too far away which sucked. But the fight was actually quite easy. I was able to repeatedly break his defiance bar and burn him down. Perhaps it was my mobility as a thief but I could fight in melee range until he popped a swarm on top of himself. It took too long to be considered fun, but I think if the NPCs were fixed it wouldn’t feel as long. It’s quite easy not to die even on a zerk thief.

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Posted by: ProtoGunner.4953

ProtoGunner.4953

The npcs do no damage anyways, I didn’t remember this episode so I had to look it up since I didn’t find it hard in anyway with what char whatsoever. Just burn him down, you can see the rings on the floor and/or dodge it.

‘would have/would’ve been’ —> correct
‘would of been’ —> wrong

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Posted by: Healix.5819

Healix.5819

After just doing it, the bug actually makes it a little faster to rush through because Rox isn’t stopping to attack everything.

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Posted by: Sarrs.4831

Sarrs.4831

Came on here to see if this thread was made and it is.

This fight takes absolutely forever and really needs to be changed to match the tone. The NPCs do need to act; they might do miniscule damage but they do do some, but more importantly Braham drops regen symbols and DE2 members in most other encounters will come over to pull you up if you get downed. Here, they do nothing.

It’s a pretty rough fight and for no real reason. It just takes a long time to get through and the long fight means you have so many opportunities to make mistakes. Your companions in this encounter need to be fixed.

Nalhadia – Kaineng

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Posted by: Jonny.6013

Jonny.6013

Having the same experience myself. Can get the boss health down so low I think “One more hit should do it…” and I make one stupid mistake, find myself needing a rez and see four companions standing around doing nothing while I cry feebly for help. I hit mist form to try and get to the edge of the circle, hoping I can rez myself while the boss continues to pound the centre of the ring and see his health bar shooting back up to full. By the time I’m on my feet again I have to do the whole thing from scratch.

Either this should be a solo fight and my character should be the only one in the ring, or the companions should do what they have done throughout the story so far – contribute DPS and rez when needed.

Needs fixing asap.

EDIT. Switched to staff, stood in the same spot on entering the circle, and autoattacked him to death, spamming Lava Font when available. Had to heal two or three times when the green vine attack came close enough, but otherwise no issues at all. The companions still didn’t do anything though.

This cannot be working as intended!

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Posted by: hydrospanner.9582

hydrospanner.9582

Came here looking for advice on this same issue, only to find that it’s bugged.

The whole party stands idly by doing nothing for the whole scenario, making even the big mordrem wolves in the maze a pain, then for the predator in the middle, not only do they do nothing (not even to help rez me when I’m down), but maybe the swarms got buffed in an update or something because they move faster than I can run. So if they get within, say, 600 units of me, it’s a guaranteed down, every time. I’ll turn and run in the opposite direction, use my dodges when they get close, and they still outrun me, overtake me, and that’s it.

Of course without the allies keeping up agro, by the time I go back to the checkpoint, run to the entry way, and get in, the predator is back to full health.

Come on Anet, get your act together. This instance is now broken in two ways, that together make it impossible to advance the story.

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Posted by: BaronBanana.2739

BaronBanana.2739

I know its old content now, But for those who are picking up the expansion and playing season 2 of living story to catch up, Fix this fight, The predator has way too much health for a single person and there sanity. Its broken, Either nerf the health or make the allies do something.

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Posted by: turnkey.2196

turnkey.2196

How in the kitten does Anet not see these types of threads? Holy kitten! Answer your players! This kitten is kittened up! Fix it!

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Posted by: SlippyCheeze.5483

SlippyCheeze.5483

How in the kitten does Anet not see these types of threads? Holy kitten! Answer your players! This kitten is kittened up! Fix it!

They absolutely do, they just don’t tend to respond on the forums. For an individual response, submit a support ticket.

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Posted by: celticdragon.9370

celticdragon.9370

It is really hard, but not 100% impossible. I managed to solo the “finish this instance in under 20 minutes” achievement a few days ago with my ranger after 5 or 6 tries. Having a pet or other minions to draw aggro is really helpful. I did wonder about my kitten companions standing around like morons, now I understand. Hope Anet can fix that bug, it would really help.