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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

I am very concerned by this introduction of transforming PCs into enemies. I don’t PvP and actively avoid MMOs that have open-world PvP. PvP always leads to toxicity in a game (NOT SAYING that ALL PvPers are toxic). I have already seen toxic behavior in GW2 because of these transformations.

I REALLY dislike the idea of other PCs killing my character. And I am very disappointed that Anet introduced this mechanic of PCs being made PK-able in PvE without warning us or giving us a choice. Similar to the trend of increased twitch/platforming mode to PvE, I am concerned that this one event will lead to more and more PvP in the open-world environment.

I think I’m going to have to hold-off on buying more gems / expansions until I see where this is going.

it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol

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Posted by: Raziel Shivla.7526

Raziel Shivla.7526

And I think it’s great!

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Posted by: Squee.7829

Squee.7829

I think if they were toying with the idea of open world PvP, they wouldn’t make it so one-sided. The Ley-line people not only have no skills to retaliate with, they also apparently have next to no armor or HP, ensuring your time as a punching bag is a very short one.

If anything, I’d say they’re using this to show how bad open world PvP can be and are showing you you should be grateful GW2 doesn’t have it xD

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

I think if they were toying with the idea of open world PvP, they wouldn’t make it so one-sided. The Ley-line people not only have no skills to retaliate with, they also apparently have next to no armor or HP, ensuring your time as a punching bag is a very short one.

If anything, I’d say they’re using this to show how bad open world PvP can be and are showing you you should be grateful GW2 doesn’t have it xD

For exactly the reasons you state, I don’t understand why someone thought this was a good idea. I have stopped all progress on this event.

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Posted by: mbhalo.1547

mbhalo.1547

I don’t understand why someone thought this was a good idea.

Indeed. Its not a good idea, its a brilliant idea!

Seriously though, its a videogame.

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Posted by: Squee.7829

Squee.7829

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

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Posted by: eduardo.1436

eduardo.1436

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

Because there is a chance you transform into an anomaly, it’s completely random. Plus it only happens to the ones who chose the priory. If you chose consortium or haven’t done the secret current event then the transformation doesn’t happen at all

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

Because there is a chance you transform into an anomaly, it’s completely random. Plus it only happens to the ones who chose the priory. If you chose consortium or haven’t done the secret current event then the transformation doesn’t happen at all

I don’t see this as any kind of proof, but even if you are correct that this is an “easter egg” and doesnt’ carry any additional meaning for the game, it still concerns me that the devs think its fun to transform PCs into a PK-able form without their permission. This doesn’t make me less worried at all that Anet might introduce more PvP in the open world.

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Posted by: dagrdagaz.4913

dagrdagaz.4913

I deliberately avoid PvP and WvW becos i dont like/want to fight other players.
I would really prefer leaving that out of PvE !

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Posted by: Donari.5237

Donari.5237

Note that they have temporarily disabled the out-of-body transform, possibly to undo the red-name part (just as they did with the Mursaat disguise).

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Posted by: zealex.9410

zealex.9410

its just there to add more flavour to the story its not that bad it also creates more discussion about the lore atm which is good i dont play pvp as well but i do like it

now just holding off on purchases just because of that i find childish if they ever decide to make open world pvp if they imploment something like a pvp pve switch in open world i wouldnt mind hell it would even make the game more alive

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

RabbitUp.8294

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

Because there is a chance you transform into an anomaly, it’s completely random. Plus it only happens to the ones who chose the priory. If you chose consortium or haven’t done the secret current event then the transformation doesn’t happen at all

I don’t see this as any kind of proof, but even if you are correct that this is an “easter egg” and doesnt’ carry any additional meaning for the game, it still concerns me that the devs think its fun to transform PCs into a PK-able form without their permission. This doesn’t make me less worried at all that Anet might introduce more PvP in the open world.

First of all, this is hardly pvp. The anomalies can’t do anything, they are walking punch bags.

Secondly, there already is open world pvp, it’s called wvw.

Thirdly, you are taking this way out of proportion. Players give their permission when they jump up and down for 5 minutes to become anomalies. If you happen to turn into an animaly at random without seeking to, then you can walk 10 feet to your body and return to normal. Even if you are killed, you are downed and rez 5 seconds later. Where’s the harm in that? The only people annoyed by getting killed are those that wasted time willingly becoming anomalies, because they have to do it all over again.

Lastly, if you want to experience the event without interacting with other players, there are magic rifts all over Tyria, you don’t have to stay at the lake where everyone is gathering.

(edited by RabbitUp.8294)

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

its just there to add more flavour to the story its not that bad it also creates more discussion about the lore atm which is good i dont play pvp as well but i do like it

now just holding off on purchases just because of that i find childish if they ever decide to make open world pvp if they imploment something like a pvp pve switch in open world i wouldnt mind hell it would even make the game more alive

How do you know what is behind this new mechanic?

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

Because there is a chance you transform into an anomaly, it’s completely random. Plus it only happens to the ones who chose the priory. If you chose consortium or haven’t done the secret current event then the transformation doesn’t happen at all

I don’t see this as any kind of proof, but even if you are correct that this is an “easter egg” and doesnt’ carry any additional meaning for the game, it still concerns me that the devs think its fun to transform PCs into a PK-able form without their permission. This doesn’t make me less worried at all that Anet might introduce more PvP in the open world.

First of all, this is hardly pvp. The anomalies can’t do anything, they are walking punch bags.

Yes, and I don’t want to be the punching bag thanks.

Secondly, there already is open world pvp, it’s called wvw.

The meaning of “open world PvP” is PvP in the entire game world. The fact that I have to go to a WvW realm in order to participate in WvW means it is not, by definition, “open world PvP”.

Thirdly, you are taking this way out of proportion. Players give their permission when they jump up and down for 5 minutes to become anomalies. If you happen to turn into an animaly at random without seeking to, then you can walk 10 feet to your body and return to normal. Even if you are killed, you are downed and rez 5 seconds later. Where’s the harm in that? The only people annoyed by getting killed are those that wasted time willingly becoming anomalies, because they have to do it all over again.

Lastly, if you want to experience the event without interacting with other players, there are magic rifts all over Tyria, you don’t have to stay at the lake where everyone is gathering.

Way out of proportion is claiming that someone has to jump for 5 minutes to become an anomaly.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

It appears to have been a bug

We have temporarily disabled the out-of-body experience that can occur with Magic Rifts while we address issues that have arisen with it.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

Well, first of all, it’s really more of an Easter egg than anything. You REALLY have to go out of your way to become an anomaly. Second, it’s not in ANY way a requirement to do so. Its just some fun option someone added because why not?

How do you know this?

Because there is a chance you transform into an anomaly, it’s completely random. Plus it only happens to the ones who chose the priory. If you chose consortium or haven’t done the secret current event then the transformation doesn’t happen at all

I don’t see this as any kind of proof, but even if you are correct that this is an “easter egg” and doesnt’ carry any additional meaning for the game, it still concerns me that the devs think its fun to transform PCs into a PK-able form without their permission. This doesn’t make me less worried at all that Anet might introduce more PvP in the open world.

First of all, this is hardly pvp. The anomalies can’t do anything, they are walking punch bags.

Yes, and I don’t want to be the punching bag thanks.

Secondly, there already is open world pvp, it’s called wvw.

The meaning of “open world PvP” is PvP in the entire game world. The fact that I have to go to a WvW realm in order to participate in WvW means it is not, by definition, “open world PvP”.

Thirdly, you are taking this way out of proportion. Players give their permission when they jump up and down for 5 minutes to become anomalies. If you happen to turn into an animaly at random without seeking to, then you can walk 10 feet to your body and return to normal. Even if you are killed, you are downed and rez 5 seconds later. Where’s the harm in that? The only people annoyed by getting killed are those that wasted time willingly becoming anomalies, because they have to do it all over again.

Lastly, if you want to experience the event without interacting with other players, there are magic rifts all over Tyria, you don’t have to stay at the lake where everyone is gathering.

Way out of proportion is claiming that someone has to jump for 5 minutes to become an anomaly.

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

I was going to say I must be missing something because I’ve been doing rift events all day and I haven’t seen anything like this.

Then I saw that Gaile explained it was a bug and is being fixed.

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Posted by: zealex.9410

zealex.9410

its just there to add more flavour to the story its not that bad it also creates more discussion about the lore atm which is good i dont play pvp as well but i do like it

now just holding off on purchases just because of that i find childish if they ever decide to make open world pvp if they imploment something like a pvp pve switch in open world i wouldnt mind hell it would even make the game more alive

How do you know what is behind this new mechanic?

i don’t im just guessing what they might have tried to test with it have a little faith they are not the dumb kittens ppl thing its quite a funny thing tho and i woul like if they add it as core feature with a toggle option

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

I kind of fail to see the problem. The only known scenario where you can be killed right now is the VERY RARE chance you’re turnt into an anomaly. Now if someone is so ungentlemanly to kill you, really, all you have to do is select the nearest WP. As things are now there are zero repurcussions to death. If I were in that scenario, got changed and then got killed I would be like ‘wtf just happened, and then laugh it off and WP’. There’s literally no harm done

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Anet is not introducing PvP into the open game world. You don’t have to express your concerns, and you don’t have to worry because it will happen zero times. There is no PvP now, no PvP coming, nor will there ever be.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Every time a bug happens doesn’t indicate the ArenaNet has some nefarious intentions. It was explained it was a bug before this post. If you weren’t aware: It’s a bug. No clandestine Open World PvP intentions. You can feel relief. =)

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Anet is not introducing PvP into the open game world. You don’t have to express your concerns, and you don’t have to worry because it will happen zero times. There is no PvP now, no PvP coming, nor will there ever be.

When you can directly kill another player in the open world, that is PvP. And it has already happened so your “zero times” is already gone.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Every time a bug happens doesn’t indicate the ArenaNet has some nefarious intentions. It was explained it was a bug before this post. If you weren’t aware: It’s a bug. No clandestine Open World PvP intentions. You can feel relief. =)

I have seen no official explanation that it was a bug – maybe you can link it?

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Every time a bug happens doesn’t indicate the ArenaNet has some nefarious intentions. It was explained it was a bug before this post. If you weren’t aware: It’s a bug. No clandestine Open World PvP intentions. You can feel relief. =)

I have seen no official explanation that it was a bug – maybe you can link it?

On this thread, 9 posts up.

It appears to have been a bug

We have temporarily disabled the out-of-body experience that can occur with Magic Rifts while we address issues that have arisen with it.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Squee.7829

Squee.7829

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lwd/Magic-Rift-Issue/first#post6355571

This post says there is a bug involving the event. However, nobody ever said what the bug was. It was purely player assumption that becoming a hostile target was the bug.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Well, if being disabled because of ‘issues’ does not denote a bug, where the Devs have used the same term before with bugs, then I guess it could be something else.

Regardless, it’s been disabled, so the whole thing is now moot.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Well, if being disabled because of ‘issues’ does not denote a bug, where the Devs have used the same term before with bugs, then I guess it could be something else.

Regardless, it’s been disabled, so the whole thing is now moot.

He didn’t say there wasn’t a bug, he said the post didn’t say that making characters PK-able was the bug. Which was exactly my point also.

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Posted by: Squee.7829

Squee.7829

Exactly what Djinn said. The post says there was an issue (bug). I never meant to dispute that. But what the issue actually IS is up for debate. Is it that we become PK-able? Maybe. Just as likely as literally any other part of the events, really. But no dev EVER said that us becoming targets was the issue. That’s just what people jumped to.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Well, if being disabled because of ‘issues’ does not denote a bug, where the Devs have used the same term before with bugs, then I guess it could be something else.

Regardless, it’s been disabled, so the whole thing is now moot.

He didn’t say there wasn’t a bug, he said the post didn’t say that making characters PK-able was the bug. Which was exactly my point also.

1) Except for specific short term, special events in beta where participation was voluntary, they’ve always been careful to separate PvE and PvP from the PvE maps. That’s been true for the whole history of their franchise
2) They’ve said there will be no open world PvP in PvE because the game is not set up for it and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to put PvP in PvE map.
3) The change to the anomaly is random and involuntary and it being attackable is nonconsensual, which if it was open world PvP would go against their whole history and philosophy of consensual PvP.
4) The anomaly that people turn into doesn’t even have skills and therefore its not PvP, which is player versus player where both players have skills to attack others and defend themselves.

These 4 points tell me that it was a bug and it never was intended to introduce PvP to PvE.

Open world PvP
“The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible. World versus world is our version of open world PvP, and while it isn’t ‘true’ open world PvP for more PvP purists, it does contain many of the elements that make world PvP so exciting. Hopefully it will mostly satisfy people that want open world PvP. — Mike Ferguson

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

It is not PvP, anomaly have no skills to use. May I remind you not anomalies have no skill bar……

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

Anet is not introducing PvP into the open game world. You don’t have to express your concerns, and you don’t have to worry because it will happen zero times. There is no PvP now, no PvP coming, nor will there ever be.

When you can directly kill another player in the open world, that is PvP. And it has already happened so your “zero times” is already gone.

It seems the definition of a ‘bug’ elusive to you

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Exactly what Djinn said. The post says there was an issue (bug). I never meant to dispute that. But what the issue actually IS is up for debate. Is it that we become PK-able? Maybe. Just as likely as literally any other part of the events, really. But no dev EVER said that us becoming targets was the issue. That’s just what people jumped to.

The event isn’t bugged, the ‘out of body experience’ is, and only the ‘out of body experience’, as far as the announcement is concerned. I can’t imagine what else it would be concerning the character Anomalies.

Still, maybe your theories of player-chosen and optional OW PvP are correct, and all this angst will be well-founded.

Good luck.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

It is not PvP, anomaly have no skills to use. May I remind you not anomalies have no skill bar……

You’re right, it’s not “PvP” because that would imply a fair fight. It’s more “P stomps P”. Not sure how that’s better…

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Exactly what Djinn said. The post says there was an issue (bug). I never meant to dispute that. But what the issue actually IS is up for debate. Is it that we become PK-able? Maybe. Just as likely as literally any other part of the events, really. But no dev EVER said that us becoming targets was the issue. That’s just what people jumped to.

The event isn’t bugged, the ‘out of body experience’ is, and only the ‘out of body experience’, as far as the announcement is concerned. I can’t imagine what else it would be concerning the character Anomalies.

Still, maybe your theories of player-chosen and optional OW PvP are correct, and all this angst will be well-founded.

Good luck.

I hope you’re correct that this was the bug and they are fixing it. If you read carefully, both Squee and I were simply arguing that we didn’t know for sure that was the case as you have assumed.

As for your comment about “angst”, I didn’t express any and I didn’t see Squee express any. Expressing concern for what a sudden introduction of PvP into the open world means for the game does not = “angst”.

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

It is not PvP, anomaly have no skills to use. May I remind you not anomalies have no skill bar……

You’re right, it’s not “PvP” because that would imply a fair fight. It’s more “P stomps P”. Not sure how that’s better…

Ok that is only your opinion….Your concern still feels unjustified to me and personally I find it confusing that you care about the fairness of player versus player even though you seem to hate any form of PvP whatsoever :P As for the “bug”, the way I see it is that they wanted to do just like ember bay when you turn yourself into a mursaat. However something must have gone wrong in the process and players were able to target and kill others while there was no intention to do that.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

It is not PvP, anomaly have no skills to use. May I remind you not anomalies have no skill bar……

You’re right, it’s not “PvP” because that would imply a fair fight. It’s more “P stomps P”. Not sure how that’s better…

Ok that is only your opinion….Your concern still feels unjustified to me and personally I find it confusing that you care about the fairness of player versus player even though you seem to hate any form of PvP whatsoever :P As for the “bug”, the way I see it is that they wanted to do just like ember bay when you turn yourself into a mursaat. However something must have gone wrong in the process and players were able to target and kill others while there was no intention to do that.

I would have thought it was obvious that the reason I’m concerned is because I am playing these events…

it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

No it is not way out of proportion….you don’t become an anomaly every time you jump into a rift. I don’t know about you but in the many attempts I jumped into a rift I only became an anomaly once. The rest of the time I got transported to other parts of th world. To me it feels like you are overreacting for nothing.

I am expressing my concern about Anet introducing PvP into the open game world. No matter how often it can happen, I don’t like it.

It is not PvP, anomaly have no skills to use. May I remind you not anomalies have no skill bar……

You’re right, it’s not “PvP” because that would imply a fair fight. It’s more “P stomps P”. Not sure how that’s better…

Ok that is only your opinion….Your concern still feels unjustified to me and personally I find it confusing that you care about the fairness of player versus player even though you seem to hate any form of PvP whatsoever :P As for the “bug”, the way I see it is that they wanted to do just like ember bay when you turn yourself into a mursaat. However something must have gone wrong in the process and players were able to target and kill others while there was no intention to do that.

I would have thought it was obvious that the reason I’m concerned is because I am playing these events…

Sure so do I but I don’t see how anomaly kills is a way Anet to say "kitten our desire to not have PvP in PvE that was expressly said before and that was also applied in the original guild wars…..believe me, I would also feel so much disenfranchised like you would so I will reiterate what I said before: I feel like you are overreacting. Sorry for confusion if I did not make myself enough clear

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Sure so do I but I don’t see how anomaly kills is a way Anet to say "kitten our desire to not have PvP in PvE that was expressly said before and that was also applied in the original guild wars…..believe me, I would also feel so much disenfranchised like you would so I will reiterate what I said before: I feel like you are overreacting. Sorry for confusion if I did not make myself enough clear

Its not “anomaly kills”, that “anomaly” is a player. And since a player is being killed, that is by definition PvP as was already discussed. Therefore Anet has ALREADY gone against the idea of “no PvP in the open world”. It is a very limited form of PvP so I am not overreacting (I only said I was concerned). But still don’t like the idea of PvP without notice. And I don’t like events being “gated” by PvP (as in, since I don’t like PvP I will miss out on the rest of the event).

Hopefully the people who believe this is the bug they are fixing are correct. I’m not sure why Anet wouldn’t just come out and state that this is the bug they’re fixing. But I guess we’ll find out one way or the other once the anomaly portion of this event is live again.

it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

Every other time that something turned players hostile to each other in the open world, it was a bug, and it was fixed. It’s not a stretch to assume that the same applies here.

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Posted by: flog.3485

flog.3485

Sure so do I but I don’t see how anomaly kills is a way Anet to say "kitten our desire to not have PvP in PvE that was expressly said before and that was also applied in the original guild wars…..believe me, I would also feel so much disenfranchised like you would so I will reiterate what I said before: I feel like you are overreacting. Sorry for confusion if I did not make myself enough clear

Its not “anomaly kills”, that “anomaly” is a player. And since a player is being killed, that is by definition PvP as was already discussed. Therefore Anet has ALREADY gone against the idea of “no PvP in the open world”. It is a very limited form of PvP so I am not overreacting (I only said I was concerned). But still don’t like the idea of PvP without notice. And I don’t like events being “gated” by PvP (as in, since I don’t like PvP I will miss out on the rest of the event).

Hopefully the people who believe this is the bug they are fixing are correct. I’m not sure why Anet wouldn’t just come out and state that this is the bug they’re fixing. But I guess we’ll find out one way or the other once the anomaly portion of this event is live again.

Ok care to disagree…..Although I gotta say that I am quite baffled by your logic.

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

Last time I remember something like this happen was with the introduction of the Silverwastes, roughly two years ago I think. For a brief period, the player bribing the bandits would turn hostile to other players and was able to be killed.

I don’t have the quotes, but I do remember that when fixing that bug (rather quickly) back then ANet explicitely stated that no way of making players hostile to each other and able to attack each other was ever considered for the pve part of this game, and I see no reason at all (judging from ANets history with this game and its predecessor) to even start to wonder if their stance has changed.

Players being able to attack and kill each other outside of pvp and wvw (and the occasional trollish mesmer portal high up in the air) is not on the agenda. It’s simply a bug.

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Posted by: Djinn.9245

Djinn.9245

Every other time that something turned players hostile to each other in the open world, it was a bug, and it was fixed. It’s not a stretch to assume that the same applies here.

I didn’t say they were wrong to think that’s what Anet is fixing, I said that we don’t know for sure.

it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol

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Posted by: Carlin Sanders.3587

Carlin Sanders.3587

#tinfoilhat #conspiracytheory Anet is planning to introduce open pvp in all open world instances starting with humans and charr going to war now that the peace talks failed with asura vs sylvari not far behind.

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Posted by: Vova.2640

Vova.2640

God I hope they add open world pk/pvp so much… optional or not….. This would make boring pve in this game interesting again…

Look at how effective someone is in a full Soldiers set.
Look at how effective someone is in a full Dire set.
Nice balance.

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Posted by: Malediktus.3740

Malediktus.3740

I wonder when the next part of this rift stuff starts. 8 days and still no class 2 rifts

One of my 30 accounts (Malediktus.9250).