Guild Wars 2

Okay, all the signs are pointing my mind to this:

Mordremoth is trying to retrieve and assemble the bloodstones.

The drawing in Scarlet’s room/design in the vision looks so familiar to the design on the floor of the Bloodstone Fen/door of the bloodstone caves. That means (if you believe bloodstones are at work here), you can infer that the Master of Peace had a bloodstone in his possession and Aerin (under Mordy influence) was trying to seize it. The MoP, of course, said that what he had was an item of great power. AND he was headed in, what appears to be, the direction of Bloodstone Fen deep within the Maguuma Jungle.

The crystals in the vision, I, and a few others, believe to be a depiction of bloodstones themselves. And you could see rising towers, which looked an awful lot like the Mursaat Towers (with, and this is a stretch, the Ether Seal glowing gold in the middle of the vision). The Mursaat (I’ve forgotten a lot, so correct me if I’m wrong) originally used the bloodstones to keep Abaddon sealed away out of fear that they would be wiped out. If they have the idea that Mordremoth will also be a danger to themselves, they’d want the bloodstones for themselves (as they did back in GW1).

Of course, you need the blood of the true ruler of Kryta to unlock the magic within the bloodstones. And Queen Jennah has that blood running through her. Added to that, we’ve been told of a powerful artefact that can reveal the true ruler’s face. I can see this going three ways. Either the queen will get lost/abducted and the player will use this artefact to find her. Or the queen will die, and the enemies will use the artefact to locate the next ruler to unlock the power. Or, the queen will die while unlocking the bloodstone power (just as it was implied that King Doric died after his blood was sealed to the bloodstones).

Basically the queen’s in trouble. Countess Anise will have a lot of saving to do. Which brings me to the next theory, which a few have also thought of. Anise is Livia from GW1. After getting the Sceptre of Orr, she would have had enough time to learn Mesmer magic (not impossible, in GW1 I was a necro/mesmer), and would have had enough time to fit herself into the Queen’s land. But that’s a completely different story which might be tackled after the story moves towards the Door of Komalie and Soul Batteries and stuff, probably in LS Season 3 (or late Season 2).

Anyways, I just wanna hear what people think about this idea.

The Master of Peace couldn’t have had a Bloodstone in possession. They’re huge, the size of buildings, and Master of Peace’s object of interest was seemingly glowing golden – rather than the reddish purple of bloodstones – on his back.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The Master of Peace couldn’t have had a Bloodstone in possession. They’re huge, the size of buildings, and Master of Peace’s object of interest was seemingly glowing golden – rather than the reddish purple of bloodstones – on his back.

In his possession doesn’t necessarily mean he was holding it, that would be absurd! Aerin could have not necessarily been looking for an item on the Master of Peace’s person at the time. He was, of course, looking for the Master of Peace, who would have known where the bloodstone was hidden. Likewise, the bag on the MoP’s back isn’t necessarily the item of power he was referring to.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The Master of Peace couldn’t have had a Bloodstone in possession. They’re huge, the size of buildings, and Master of Peace’s object of interest was seemingly glowing golden – rather than the reddish purple of bloodstones – on his back.

That’s true, the bloodstones themselves are massive rocks that are almost the size of buildings. The keystone, the stone needed to unite the shattered bloodstones, however, is much smaller. If I remember correctly, it was small enough to be carried by human hands.

DanteZero.9736:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

The Master of Peace couldn’t have had a Bloodstone in possession. They’re huge, the size of buildings, and Master of Peace’s object of interest was seemingly glowing golden – rather than the reddish purple of bloodstones – on his back.

That’s true, the bloodstones themselves are massive rocks that are almost the size of buildings. The keystone, the stone needed to unite the shattered bloodstones, however, is much smaller. If I remember correctly, it was small enough to be carried by human hands.

Ooh yes, and I do remember the keystone being lost for a good portion of time, maybe that’s what the artefact was..

Where on Tyria do you guys get that the keystone is about the size of a human fist? IIRC, it was explicitly said the original Bloodstone was divided into five equal-sized chunks.

Edit: Ah, I see it was only said that only the four stones representing the four schools of magic were of the same size. Still, I found no mention of the keystone’s actual size.

I thought the crystals meant he was overiding Kralkatorrik’s corruption

Moltakfire.6834:

In his possession doesn’t necessarily mean he was holding it, that would be absurd! Aerin could have not necessarily been looking for an item on the Master of Peace’s person at the time. He was, of course, looking for the Master of Peace, who would have known where the bloodstone was hidden. Likewise, the bag on the MoP’s back isn’t necessarily the item of power he was referring to.

Trying to get the Master killed in a huge airship crash isn’t a very good interrogation tactic.

Besides, the zephyrites aren’t likely to be connected to another mythical thing. The Glint connection is more than enough.

Manasa Devi.7958:

Moltakfire.6834:

In his possession doesn’t necessarily mean he was holding it, that would be absurd! Aerin could have not necessarily been looking for an item on the Master of Peace’s person at the time. He was, of course, looking for the Master of Peace, who would have known where the bloodstone was hidden. Likewise, the bag on the MoP’s back isn’t necessarily the item of power he was referring to.

Trying to get the Master killed in a huge airship crash isn’t a very good interrogation tactic.

Besides, the zephyrites aren’t likely to be connected to another mythical thing. The Glint connection is more than enough.

Perhaps the crash was just to provide a cover to the fact that he was trying to abduct the MoP. If Aerin knew he would survive the crash, then he would have enough skill to keep the MoP from getting harmed. If he really wanted to kill the Master of Peace, he would have had ample opportunity to do it, being so close to him. The people on the airship died of stab wounds, so if Aerin wanted to, the MoP would have been his first victim. So obviously Aerin needed the MoP to retrieve this ‘great power’, which is what makes me think it’s not something as simple as ’Glint’s Remains’. I feel like there are more to the Zephyrites than just their connection to Glint.

Ahammm….don’t we destroy one of those blodestone thingies during one of the Arah paths, being the last boss of that particular path?

During one of my random browsings I came across an old thread from LS S1 with a screenshot of Scarlet’s lair where there were her drawings on the desk. One of them represented a red eye with black glow (all of her drawings seem to be black & red). I did some googling and found that some Mursaat structures have some kind of red eye gem.

http://prntscr.com/4dzmpj

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/SaNesuke-SaiNt-Sagara/mursaattowers.jpg

I was thinking the Mursaat could be what Scarlet saw or what told her to do all the things she did. Don’t know, probably not one of the most plausible theories, but it’s just something that came across my mind and I thought I’d share it. Also, if I recall correctly, didn’t Trahearne say that there’s some greater intelligence behind all this? It might’ve referred to the attack on the world summit, but maybe it could also refer to the whole dragon awakening and all this. I’m sure the lore masters will discredit all this. xD

As for the vision, the towers look similar to the Mursaat towers. There are so many theories about the Mursaat, the blood stones and Mordremoth that it almost seems likely the next few episodes are going in that direction, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. It’d be really nice if it turned out to be a mix of old and new lore, not just mainly new lore with a few hints of old.

Rebound.3409:

Ahammm….don’t we destroy one of those blodestone thingies during one of the Arah paths, being the last boss of that particular path?

That was just a shard I think, just a larger version of the bloodstone bricks we have in our possession

Arctinus.7824:

During one of my random browsings I came across an old thread from LS S1 with a screenshot of Scarlet’s lair where there were her drawings on the desk. One of them represented a red eye with black glow (all of her drawings seem to be black & red). I did some googling and found that some Mursaat structures have some kind of red eye gem.

http://prntscr.com/4dzmpj

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/SaNesuke-SaiNt-Sagara/mursaattowers.jpg

I was thinking the Mursaat could be what Scarlet saw or what told her to do all the things she did. Don’t know, probably not one of the most plausible theories, but it’s just something that came across my mind and I thought I’d share it. Also, if I recall correctly, didn’t Trahearne say that there’s some greater intelligence behind all this? It might’ve referred to the attack on the world summit, but maybe it could also refer to the whole dragon awakening and all this. I’m sure the lore masters will discredit all this. xD

As for the vision, the towers look similar to the Mursaat towers. There are so many theories about the Mursaat, the blood stones and Mordremoth that it almost seems likely the next few episodes are going in that direction, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. It’d be really nice if it turned out to be a mix of old and new lore, not just mainly new lore with a few hints of old.

I think the pictures you’ve sent may have just strengthened the mursaat theory. I do believe the mursaat had a hand in the world summit attack. I also think one of two things, although I’m not sure as to which theory is stronger:

1. The mursaat are trying to prevent mordremoth from gaining all this magic/retrieving the bloodstone power, so they leaked the world summit event to educate the leaders that they need to band together to stop this from happening.

2. The mursaat have somehow gained control over mordremoth and are using him to find the bloodstones, which is/was one of their intentions in gw1.

There’s just such a focus on bloodstones now (with the increase in bloodstone dust, mawdrey that feeds on bloodstones, and hints as to bloodstones in game) that it would be unwise to doubt that they are coming in the second half.

Moltakfire.6834:

Arctinus.7824:

During one of my random browsings I came across an old thread from LS S1 with a screenshot of Scarlet’s lair where there were her drawings on the desk. One of them represented a red eye with black glow (all of her drawings seem to be black & red). I did some googling and found that some Mursaat structures have some kind of red eye gem.

http://prntscr.com/4dzmpj

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/SaNesuke-SaiNt-Sagara/mursaattowers.jpg

As for the vision, the towers look similar to the Mursaat towers. There are so many theories about the Mursaat, the blood stones and Mordremoth that it almost seems likely the next few episodes are going in that direction, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. It’d be really nice if it turned out to be a mix of old and new lore, not just mainly new lore with a few hints of old.

I think the pictures you’ve sent may have just strengthened the mursaat theory. I do believe the mursaat had a hand in the world summit attack. I also think one of two things, although I’m not sure as to which theory is stronger:

1. The mursaat are trying to prevent mordremoth from gaining all this magic/retrieving the bloodstone power, so they leaked the world summit event to educate the leaders that they need to band together to stop this from happening.

2. The mursaat have somehow gained control over mordremoth and are using him to find the bloodstones, which is/was one of their intentions in gw1.

There is only one Mursaat that is (maybe) alive, or maybe it’s the Seers of which there are two that are (maybe) alive. If you’re going to plot the return of any race, it would be the Forgotten, who were very closely tied with Glint and the Gods.

The first point of your theory is pure speculation with no evidence, as is the second, which makes incorrect statements about the motivations of the Mursaat. In GW1 the Mursaat knew about the locations of at least two of the bloodstones. They weren’t hunting for them, they were using them as tools to reach their goal of keeping the Door of Komalie closed.

Besides, this is what Mursaat architecture looks like:

And after years of patient waiting following the presentation my “the mursaat had a strong presence in the Maguuma” theory in 2009, I can finally return and cross fingers that it will be proven correct.

As for their architecture, narwhalsbend:

“On the fourth day, delirious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding, and the creatures who lived here were unlike any he had ever seen.”

— http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saul_D%27Alessio

I’ve been speculating for years that the “bloodstone architecture” found in the Ring of Fire is “grown” out of the bloodstones themselves, and they serve as resources for military purposes — weapons, the jade armor constructs, walls, mursaat towers powered by souls, mursaat batteries, etc.

While their ancient, “civilian” architecture is the one of golden, empyrean towers and the like. Much like those structures we saw in the vision.

Thalador.4218:

And after years of patient waiting following the presentation my “the mursaat had a strong presence in the Maguuma” theory in 2009, I can finally return and cross fingers that it will be proven correct.

As for their architecture, narwhalsbend:

“On the fourth day, delirious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding, and the creatures who lived here were unlike any he had ever seen.”

— http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saul_D%27Alessio

I’ve been speculating for years that the “bloodstone architecture” found in the Ring of Fire is “grown” out of the bloodstones themselves, and they serve as resources for military purposes — weapons, the jade armor constructs, walls, mursaat towers powered by souls, mursaat batteries, etc.

While their ancient, “civilian” architecture is the one of golden, empyrean towers and the like. Much like those structures we saw in the vision.

That quote mentions nothing specific, other than that the buildings were tall. I, however, have images of actual mursaat architecture.

What about this? Just wondering because it looks very similar, but it might just be a coincidence:

http://prntscr.com/4eajrp
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/SaNesuke-SaiNt-Sagara/gw475.jpg

Btw, there are so many things included in the speculations: the Mursaat, the Bloodstones, the Heir of Kryta, mystery behind E, Glint and her offspring, the Ascalon Curse, the Crystal Desert… I’m afraid we won’t get to experience any of these things or maybe just one and the rest will be again ’’forgotten’’ until the next LS or maybe even never. :/

@narwhals: It does mention that the towers are “heaven-reaching” and the architecture itself is astounding in the eyes of a human. If I look at the jade architecture, I think of dark, foreboding, alien, but not astounding.

If you look at the mursaat — their physique, their clothes, their armor, their grace — you see superiority, radiance, and gold. Does the jade architecture gives this back? Nope. Henceforth, it is obvious the structures Saul had seen are very different from the one the players had seen in Guild Wars 1.

Also, do not try to dismiss the connection that the White Mantle also took up golden and white as their colors, which was actually started by Saul D’Alessio, who was given his robes as a gift by the Unseen Ones:

“Saul D’Alessio returned to Kryta a changed man. His rags had been replaced with a sleeveless, pure-white robe embroidered with golden thread.”

— http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saul_D%27Alessio

You can have your images of mursaat military architecture. I have all the proof I need to support my claims.

Thalador.4218:

@narwhals: It does mention that the towers are “heaven-reaching” and the architecture itself is astounding in the eyes of a human. If I look at the jade architecture, I think of dark, foreboding, alien, but not astounding.

If you look at the mursaat — their physique, their clothes, their armor, their grace — you see superiority, radiance, and gold. Does the jade architecture gives this back? Nope. Henceforth, it is obvious the structures Saul had seen are very different from the one the players had seen in Guild Wars 1.

Also, do not try to dismiss the connection that the White Mantle also took up golden and white as their colors, which was actually started by Saul D’Alessio, who was given his robes as a gift by the Unseen Ones:

“Saul D’Alessio returned to Kryta a changed man. His rags had been replaced with a sleeveless, pure-white robe embroidered with golden thread.”

— http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saul_D%27Alessio

You can have your images of mursaat military architecture. I have all the proof I need to support my claims.

You have conjecture. No one except Saul has seen the Mursaat cities. While it is reasonable to assume that much of the White Mantle’s architecture and style was based off of what he saw, it’s still conjecture.

DanteZero.9736:

That’s true, the bloodstones themselves are massive rocks that are almost the size of buildings. The keystone, the stone needed to unite the shattered bloodstones, however, is much smaller. If I remember correctly, it was small enough to be carried by human hands.

You’re going to have to provide a source for that, because I don’t recall any such thing being said that any bloodstone – beyond small chips and shards – were small enough to be held by humans.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

DanteZero.9736:

That’s true, the bloodstones themselves are massive rocks that are almost the size of buildings. The keystone, the stone needed to unite the shattered bloodstones, however, is much smaller. If I remember correctly, it was small enough to be carried by human hands.

You’re going to have to provide a source for that, because I don’t recall any such thing being said that any bloodstone – beyond small chips and shards – were small enough to be held by humans.

I think it’s a case of ’can’t prove this, can’t disprove this’. I mean, we were told (and shown) that the four bloodstones were quite large, but (and correct me if I’m wrong) we were never told the exact dimensions of the keystone. Yes, the keystone could be the same size, but it makes more sense for it to be portable, only because you need it to unlock the other four bloodstone’s magic. That being said, we haven’t been told anything yet, so the size is a mystery. The MoP could have been holding a key to the chamber holding the keystone after all.

narwhalsbend.7059:

Moltakfire.6834:

Arctinus.7824:

During one of my random browsings I came across an old thread from LS S1 with a screenshot of Scarlet’s lair where there were her drawings on the desk. One of them represented a red eye with black glow (all of her drawings seem to be black & red). I did some googling and found that some Mursaat structures have some kind of red eye gem.

http://prntscr.com/4dzmpj

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/SaNesuke-SaiNt-Sagara/mursaattowers.jpg

As for the vision, the towers look similar to the Mursaat towers. There are so many theories about the Mursaat, the blood stones and Mordremoth that it almost seems likely the next few episodes are going in that direction, but I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. It’d be really nice if it turned out to be a mix of old and new lore, not just mainly new lore with a few hints of old.

I think the pictures you’ve sent may have just strengthened the mursaat theory. I do believe the mursaat had a hand in the world summit attack. I also think one of two things, although I’m not sure as to which theory is stronger:

1. The mursaat are trying to prevent mordremoth from gaining all this magic/retrieving the bloodstone power, so they leaked the world summit event to educate the leaders that they need to band together to stop this from happening.

2. The mursaat have somehow gained control over mordremoth and are using him to find the bloodstones, which is/was one of their intentions in gw1.

There is only one Mursaat that is (maybe) alive, or maybe it’s the Seers of which there are two that are (maybe) alive. If you’re going to plot the return of any race, it would be the Forgotten, who were very closely tied with Glint and the Gods.

The first point of your theory is pure speculation with no evidence, as is the second, which makes incorrect statements about the motivations of the Mursaat. In GW1 the Mursaat knew about the locations of at least two of the bloodstones. They weren’t hunting for them, they were using them as tools to reach their goal of keeping the Door of Komalie closed.

Besides, this is what Mursaat architecture looks like:

Firstly, all of this is pure speculation until we have ANet say “Yes, the mursaat are returning”.

If they were using them as tools, surely they’d want to safeguard them? If the current mursaat (there’s no evidence to suggest that they aren’t around us now, likewise, there’s no concrete evidence to suggest they are. Similar to the Silence in Doctor Who) are still trying to keep the door closed, and they don’t know the whereabouts of the bloodstones, it makes perfect sense for the mursaat to be looking for them, lest they want the door open.

Just because Ogden Stonehealer is the only dwarf visible in the game, doesn’t mean he’s the ONLY dwarf in gw2. We don’t have to necessarily see them to acknowledge that they’re there. For all we know, they could have all died in the fight against primordius.