Guild Wars 2

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omg :p

This is going to be an AWESOME chapter

Rytlock is freeing Ascalon from it’s curse?
To what end does this serve?
Color me interested.

Wait…ascalon curse? what curse? If he could have done it before why does he do it starting now? Detail the curse please loremonkeys!

maybe the Charr can’t defend themselves against the ghosts AND the Mordrem?

The Curse of Ascalon is probably the ghosts from the dead Ascalonians

I’m really confused… does it mean Ascalon will be freed from the ghosts?
Any lore-expert who can explain what that curse is/was? I only know some pieces of the story because I’ve never played GW1 extensively.

PS: Rytlock uses the sword from that ghost king dude, right?
That place looks a bit like a bloodstone.. or is it just some Ascalonian ruin?

Really excited :O

I was thinking of that too…but WHY keep the curse active if u can deactivate it in the first place? the ghosts were a problem for them also. And also does that mean ghosts will dissapear from those maps? that would actually be a huge change that i wasn’t expecting them to make.

@Thanatos that’s his sword yes, and the place he goes to is from what i can pick up, the charr tutorial-boss fight mini-dungeon thing.

i have a very bad feeling about this what rytlock brimstone is doing

I love these trailers. Anet is becoming good at it.

butch.8136:

I love these trailers. Anet is becoming good at it.

Definitely agree there.

When the Charr breached Ascalon, King Adelbern used his flaming sword Magdaer to create the Foefire. A big magic blast that killed the Charr army, but it also turned the humans into ghosts. These ghosts keep defending Ascalon. Killing them does not really work since they come back after a while. That’s the Curse of Ascalon in a nutshell

Awesome now again..why did they not break the curse long ago? The ghosts were a major issue for them also. Why now? What’s the catch? Let’s say it’s some kind of cliche like “rytlock dies in the process”. Even so, giving his life for his people..he could have done that long ago and i don’t think he’s the kind that is scared by self sacrifice.

Why do now, something u could have done long ago, thus keeping your people safe for all the years they have been trying to fight the ghosts?

So the sword is the key to the curse. Leading to the question: Why now? I don’t see any link between Mordremoth and the current state of Ascalon…

This looks very, very interesting. Not only does it show Rytlock freeing the Ascalonions, but it shows a very quick clip of the Icebrood in what looks like Wayfarer Foothills (where the icebrood champ spawns). Has me thinking….should be a great piece of story.

but rytlock brimstone wears also that sword maby he try to free them from the curse and lead them to kill the dragon ??

looks a bit like lord of then rings when the king ask the help of the ghost ??

Genlog.4983:

but rytlock brimstone wears also that sword maby he try to free them from the curse and lead them to kill the dragon ??

looks a bit like lord of then rings when the king ask the help of the ghost ??

I think freeing the ghosts would mean that they would just dissapear

Mmmm…..then why didn’t he use them before, to take over even more lands. Dunno but this trailer has raised more interesting questions then all other trailers done. (even last year)

But why would they show Icebrood in the trailer? I don’t really see a connection between them and the current story. Interesting plot twist :p

If you think about it it makes sense. If Rytlock can break the Ascalonian curse, it would free them up from one of their conflicts, allowing them to bend more resources towards defeating the Elder Dragons. Considering Magdaer was used to inflict the curse in the first place, it makes sense that Sohothin might break it. Then again it might be Magdaer reforged that does the trick, considering that Eir found the pieces of the sword in the story dungeon and had planned to get it repaired.

Maybe he’s using the sword now because Mord has the charr fighting on two (or more) fronts? I don’t know, I find the charr very practical, I’d think they would have done this long ago… unless the majority of them didn’t know the curse can be broken.

My question is: how long will they want to maintain the uneasy truce with humans if Rytlock succeeds? One less foe for them to fight, they might just pick up sword against humans again. Though that would kind of be counter-productive to the main story I suppose…

Correct me if I’m wrong, but does the the legend not state only the rightful King of Ascalon wielding either of the swords can lift the curse?

Either this attempt fails as he doesn’t he considered that. Or Rytlock perhaps becomes the Kahn-Ur which could be interpreted as the King of Ascalon.

Or the Legends wrong and you only need the sword.

btw the other article confirms there will be no new map section unlocked during this episode. But the following patch will.

It says alliances are tested and it shows rox and braham reporting to their respective ‘leaders’ as well as ice dragon corruption, maybe two dragons are making pushes at the same time O:

I don’t think it fails…..the whole ground lights up. Usually that’s a pretty good sign kitten just got real.

Maybe it can be lifted by the one who killed the king.

I love the trailer but the fact that they’re calling this ‘part 1’ has me slightly worried this is the first part to the final of this second season. Hope it’s not true though.

i think rytlock brimstone feels there is something big comming and he cant fight the ghost everytime what btw a endless war is

so maby free them and ask for 1 last favour to stop the treat
but i dunno if the ghost are so willing to help ??

re: Rytlock

the Human legends state that if EITHER sword, Sohothin or Magdaer are returned to Ascalon, in the hands of the True King of Ascalon, the curse will be lifted. not just Magdaer.

I’m assuming that Rytlock never really knew of this, in regards to his sword, Sohothin. He just saw it as a trophy that symbolized the Charr’s ultimate victory over Ascalon.

perhaps he’s giving Sohothin back to Adelbern, since Magdaer is broken?

Rebound.3409:

Maybe it can be lifted by the one who killed the king.

Rythlock didn’t kill the King. I think it was a Flame legion squad that were going to kill him, but the Foefire killed him eventually.

Will Lucky.8703:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but does the the legend not state only the rightful King of Ascalon wielding either of the swords can lift the curse?

Either this attempt fails as he doesn’t he considered that. Or Rytlock perhaps becomes the Kahn-Ur which could be interpreted as the King of Ascalon.

Or the Legends wrong and you only need the sword.

If Rytlock somehow becomes the Khan-Ur, that would lead to some massive implications. The High Legions are divided because of the lack of a Khan-Ur, a supreme overlord of sorts, and the existence of a Khan-Ur would basically unify the Legions that recognize him. This would potentially make the Charr the mightiest non-dragon influenced army on Tyria. Not only that, it would mean a lot of nervous times for the rest of the races if the Charr decides to become a bit expansionist about their territory.

Will Rytlock lead the Ghosts versus Mordremoth like Aragorn did it versus the Corsairs of Umbar?

@JakeG: Ah…yea u are technically right…dumb me

Belenwyn.8674:

Will Rytlock lead the Ghosts versus Mordremoth like Aragorn did it versus the Corsairs of Umbar?

i was thinking the same way
charrs cant fight 2 battles the ghost and the new dragon are maby more dragons

it wil be the end of the charr race
so for rytlock brimstone is this a gamble and hope the ghost are willing to help out

Will Lucky.8703:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but does the the legend not state only the rightful King of Ascalon wielding either of the swords can lift the curse?

Either this attempt fails as he doesn’t he considered that. Or Rytlock perhaps becomes the Kahn-Ur which could be interpreted as the King of Ascalon.

Or the Legends wrong and you only need the sword.

The lore is very vague when it comes to talking about putting the ghosts of Ascalon to rest. It simply states that the true King of Ascalon can do it.

Its important to note that the swords are Orrian in origin. I have a hard time accepting that the Orrian swords would essentially pick a charr as the rightful King.

Also, there are still two living blood descendants of Doric. Queen Jennah and Commander Samuelsson. Again, the lore doesn’t stipulate that the person with the sword must be a blood relative.

At this point I expect someone like Jeff Grubb to come along and completely kitten on all present lore about both swords.

I really hope this means they are giving a path in the AC dungeon the Twilight Assault overhaul treatment.

Seems like the perfect chance to do it.

Will Lucky.8703:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but does the the legend not state only the rightful King of Ascalon wielding either of the swords can lift the curse?

Either this attempt fails as he doesn’t he considered that. Or Rytlock perhaps becomes the Kahn-Ur which could be interpreted as the King of Ascalon.

Or the Legends wrong and you only need the sword.

Keep in mind, it just says KING. And Ascalon was Charr land well before it was Human.

It’s very likely the curse doesn’t give two kittens about your race.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/25631-guild-wars-2-the-dragons-reach-begins-july-29-new-trailer-teases-destinys-edge-and-corruption/

I saw mentioned earlier that this article confirms no new content, when in now way have they contacted Anet in any way shape or form, they were simply speculating there will be none due to the fact that none is in the trailer. In no way is that confirmed; unless there is another unreleased article Vol is speaking about.

Rytlock fixes the solo p1

I think a lot of players overlooked a charr as a true king simply because Rytlock has had the sword for a while. Why wouldn’t he cleanse Ascalon sooner? What has changed that allows him to attempt to do it now?

Rebound.3409:

Awesome now again..why did they not break the curse long ago? The ghosts were a major issue for them also. Why now? What’s the catch? Let’s say it’s some kind of cliche like “rytlock dies in the process”. Even so, giving his life for his people..he could have done that long ago and i don’t think he’s the kind that is scared by self sacrifice.

Why do now, something u could have done long ago, thus keeping your people safe for all the years they have been trying to fight the ghosts?

Because the idea that Sohothin and/or Magdaer can break the curse caused by the Foefire is just, in Rytlock’s own words IIRC, “…a foolish human legend.” It isn’t like there is some asuran research or prophecy that states that is what will end the Ghosts of Ascalon once and for all, just the kind of tale humans like to tell that charr like to scoff at as fantasy… and why should they know any better? Until the expedition to recover the Claw of the Khan-Ur, most humans didn’t even know what caused the Foefire in the first place.

Of course, if things are desperate enough, one might be willing to try anything.

Levistis.8356:

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/25631-guild-wars-2-the-dragons-reach-begins-july-29-new-trailer-teases-destinys-edge-and-corruption/

I saw mentioned earlier that this article confirms no new content, when in now way have they contacted Anet in any way shape or form, they were simply speculating there will be none due to the fact that none is in the trailer. In no way is that confirmed; unless there is another unreleased article Vol is speaking about.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/07/22/flameseeker-chronicles-introducing-guild-wars-2s-dragons-reac/

This particular release won’t unlock a new section of the Dry Top map, although players can look forward to seeing more of it uncovered in the fourth episode. The focus of this upcoming release is on bringing news of Mordremoth’s existence to the rest of Tyria.

Right correct me if I am incorrect or if you think slightly differently about this theory.

So far from the entanglement update we were sent to Concordia and Fort Salma, both these locations being under assault by Mord. The main point that I came away with after completing these missions was the fact that in both instances it was stated by the NPCs present that they were transporting significant magical items.
You may be asking how this is important, well thanks to Taimi’s explanation of the issues with the waypoint network being built on the ley lines and a substantial pool of magical energy and thus why Mords tentacles were traveling along to further areas and being attracted to them.
I theorise that the relationship between the ascalonian ghosts and more is as follows.
The foe fire was a large magical blast that pretty much killed everything in its blast radius but only leaving human ghosts behind, what if the heart of the foefire and the ghosts created are actually magical in essence.
The implications if this is the case are huge, because essentially ascalon is just a giant feeding frenzy for creatures, such as Mord, that feed off magic.
It could be that Rylock is only now attempting to lift the curse because he finally relises the threat of a awaking elder dragon getting this huge boost or he may be taking a preemptive measure to stop Mord reaching out to ascalon as it already has in other places.

Just my two cents anyway.

P.s. Sorry if there are spelling mistakes etc as I am posting off my ipad and I have auto correct.

yeah so he’s doing some ritual, who says he’ll be successful? IMO it’s highly unlikely to solve one of the major plot points in a filler patch, but who knows, it’s not like the story has some high standards to begin with.

@JMadFour Logan tells Rytlock about the sword towards the begining of the book EoD – they have a big ol’ brawl over it.

The only thing in the trailer that confused me was the 3 second scene showing ice brood. Anyone want to explain that one?

Honestly..? Rytlock can go cleanse kitten, not Curse of the Ascalon. As i recall well, it was stated that it can be lifted ONLY by descendant of Royal Ascalonian Family ( either queen Jennah or Comm W. Samuelsson. So i call BS on all that cleansing… .

nb4Konig

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I think Konig is weeding himself off from the forums. Don’t hold your breath.

Anyone think the name “The Dragon’s Reach” could have a double meaning an allude to Divinity’s Reach? The simplest explanation is it simply indicates the vines spreading across the world and appearently showing up in charr territory (“Mordremoth’s corruption reaches so far!”) but NPCs have a couple times refered to DR as “the Reach” (it was confusing at first, I thought it was a new place in the game). Television shows often have words in their episode titles which are recurring themes throughout the episode and can often be bothe literal and metaphorical.

Chrispy.5641:

The only thing in the trailer that confused me was the 3 second scene showing ice brood. Anyone want to explain that one?

Personally I’m thinking Mordemoth plans to go after the other dragons. He’s shown to be extremely aggressive in his spread, much more so then the other dragons. Hell for all we know is vines could already be in the territory of other dragons.

It almost makes me wonder if we caused this by slaying Zhaitan.

I like how Mordremoth is a real live threat, while Zaithan was just something that was always there from the start. All he did was send some minions, but the vines are much more dangerous since you can’t really stop them from spreading. According to Taimi they are Mordremoth himself, or like an extension of his body. Zaithan never had such a thing, just some minions.

Kleopas Hark.4076:

Right correct me if I am incorrect or if you think slightly differently about this theory.

So far from the entanglement update we were sent to Concordia and Fort Salma, both these locations being under assault by Mord. The main point that I came away with after completing these missions was the fact that in both instances it was stated by the NPCs present that they were transporting significant magical items.
You may be asking how this is important, well thanks to Taimi’s explanation of the issues with the waypoint network being built on the ley lines and a substantial pool of magical energy and thus why Mords tentacles were traveling along to further areas and being attracted to them.
I theorise that the relationship between the ascalonian ghosts and more is as follows.
The foe fire was a large magical blast that pretty much killed everything in its blast radius but only leaving human ghosts behind, what if the heart of the foefire and the ghosts created are actually magical in essence.
The implications if this is the case are huge, because essentially ascalon is just a giant feeding frenzy for creatures, such as Mord, that feed off magic.
It could be that Rylock is only now attempting to lift the curse because he finally relises the threat of a awaking elder dragon getting this huge boost or he may be taking a preemptive measure to stop Mord reaching out to ascalon as it already has in other places.

Just my two cents anyway.

P.s. Sorry if there are spelling mistakes etc as I am posting off my ipad and I have auto correct.

This. In a nutshell, Adelburn was known as the “sorcerer king”. The Foefire was a massive, cataclysmic, magical event (and the Searing as well). There’s a lot of residual magical energy in Ascalon/Rin from these two world-changing events in addition to that which is practiced by the Flame Legion, the scholarly Charr PC/NPCs, the Dragonbrand (and the branded organisms), and Asuran Gates & Waypoints. After seeing how quickly Mord’s vines have spread since Gates of Maguuma (assuming everything’s real-time-ish), it shouldn’t be a surprise that his units (for lack of a better term) are making a bee-line to this area.

As far as Rytlock & the sword, I would be willing he’s gambling on speaking to Adelburn, telling him that since he & his kingdom are magical energy and thus dragon food, they need to break the curse. How it happens, I’m not sure. I don’t see Rytlock being the diplomatic type, however.

TL;DR: Ascalon’s next to the Brand, and both are gushing with magical energy. Mordremoth’s licking his chops at it & eliminating or containing Ascalon’s ghosts is a solution.

Sorry for the wall-o-text.