Guild Wars 2

I don’t know if these vines grow underwater, but if they are following the route of the ley line has anyone checked the breechmaker drill site in Lion’s Arch?

Strange too. Seems like it’s out of synche because Explorer Campell is setting “important artifacts” from the Tower of Nightmares right beside the vine in Fort Selma. So far no other NPCs accept maybe one Quaggan is taking notice. Although the one Quaggan’s commentary could refer to the Centaurs instead. He says something along the lines of, “It’s too dangerous here.”

Lasica.5068:

I don’t know if these vines grow underwater, but if they are following the route of the ley line has anyone checked the breechmaker drill site in Lion’s Arch?

The other day but nothing seemed different. LA still makes weird noises and when you go down you see the same graphical affects that were there at the conclusion.

Also, Fort Marriner in LA is flickering.

Someone mentioned Concordia is now doing it too but we all know Concordia is DoA come Tuesday :P

Mrot Boru WP(brisban wildlands) is flickering and Mirkrise WP(also brisban) got a vine, next is probably Murdian WP (metrica) to get flickers.

We need a new chart for this.

Once you get out of Kessex, there really isn’t any defined path…

Apparently they don’t even need to patch the game for this. At least I did not notice my launcher downloading anything.

Ignavia.7420:

Apparently they don’t even need to patch the game for this. At least I did not notice my launcher downloading anything.

I think they already did, and just called it “fixed a server crash”.

Fort Marriner Waypoint is flickering.

We should make a welcome party for the inevitable vines coming to LA.

Edit: So is bloodcoast ward.

Tanith.5264:

Ignavia.7420:

Apparently they don’t even need to patch the game for this. At least I did not notice my launcher downloading anything.

I think they already did, and just called it “fixed a server crash”.

That’s not what I meant. Since yesterday some new vines appeared, but my launcher did not have to download any new files. That would mean that there is a trigger (servertime or whatever) in game and that they don’t need to patch in every change manually. That would be nice, because every patch means that people have to relog – which is bad in WvW for example. I could be wrong there, though.

Ronin.7381:

Also, Fort Marriner in LA is flickering.

Someone mentioned Concordia is now doing it too but we all know Concordia is DoA come Tuesday :P

If you go down from Fort Marriner, Bloodcoast Ward and Archen Foreland (Bloodtide Coast) are flickering as well, but then it looks like it goes straight to Concordia.

I’m pretty sure there is some logic behind the path, either ley lines or something else, but it does sort of skip around passed Kessex, unless i’m missing some.

Ignavia.7420:

Tanith.5264:

Ignavia.7420:

Apparently they don’t even need to patch the game for this. At least I did not notice my launcher downloading anything.

I think they already did, and just called it “fixed a server crash”.

That’s not what I meant. Since yesterday some new vines appeared, but my launcher did not have to download any new files. That would mean that there is a trigger (servertime or whatever) in game and that they don’t need to patch in every change manually. That would be nice, because every patch means that people have to relog – which is bad in WvW for example. I could be wrong there, though.

Oh, I agree. And I think you’re right, I just figured all this was patched into the game during the S2 launch or shortly after, and now is gradually being activated as you say. And I love it.

EDIT: Take care if you travel to Fort Salma to investigate matters, friends. My engineer ported there and immediately was trapped by the vine “strangling” the waypoint. Fortunately Tippi Kaboom is an engineer who feels everything can be solved with explosions, and freed herself with Jump Shot.

I’ve noticed a vine @ fort marriner but it is not “activated”, only due to slow environment rendering, you can see it for a brief second, so I assume that all vines are already placed, just a server event that need to trigger them I think.

munkiman.3068:

Once you get out of Kessex, there really isn’t any defined path…

Unless you count again dead-ending at Tengu Territory.

/morpheus line about breathing air

Interesting… entagled wp looks like the vine is absorbing the magic from them. Vine boss absorbing magic and take strengh to a nice awake.

At breechmaker drill in Lion Arc there isnt any vine or similar, only a blue energy glowing.

Sooooo, there appears to be flickering at Fort Marriner the fort in Lions Arch.

kitten Magnus you just HAD to Jinx it didn’t you?

This also trails into the border of Bloodtide through Bloodcoast Ward to Archen Falls Waypoints, all are flickering right now.

UnknownFreak.2805:

I’ve noticed a vine @ fort marriner but it is not “activated”, only due to slow environment rendering, you can see it for a brief second, so I assume that all vines are already placed, just a server event that need to trigger them I think.

I’ve been using the slow environment rendering to see if a can spot a couple of vine as well. I just stand far back enough, so the object is out of view, then slowly walk forward just enough, I can usually see them for a splint second.

I haven’t checked many, and I’m not sure if they will actually be activated later, but I spotted two or three in LA and definitely one at the Concordia waypoint.

Something else I have noticed for you eager to explore.

There is an even earlier sign that a waypoint is going to start flickering later.

Some of the WP’s have started to glow dimmer than others, you can see the small change in brightness around the gleam that comes off them which makes them seem weaker as if they’ve started to loose power.

This seems to be the first stage just before flickering that a WP is going to start flickering next.

I know this is off-topic somewhat, but the preceding posts reminded me that I no longer (and haven’t for some time) had that slow rendering on the mini-map, inventory, bank, etc. that plagued many for such a long time.

Thanks, Devs! =)

I expect something to happen to Thaumanova Reactor and Infinite Coil. :o

In case anyone hasn’t added this, here is a screenshot of a vine interacting with a waypoint in Kessex Hills, that I just stumbled across 5 minutes ago. It’s the one right next to Earthwork’s Bluff.

Shirogatsu.3150 made this video showing the vined up wps and posted it in general LS discussion. I think it is very relevant to this thread:

From Darkwound wp in kessix the vines head straight west towards la (which means the tengu are also experiencing this i think kessixs path is done its way passed kessix now from la to timberline the funs about to begin

I wonder if the Tengu -are- experiencing it. They have no reason to have waypoints, do they?

Though hmm, there are Tengu traders in the world. They could have set up something via closely controlled interaction with the Asura.

I think mordy needs magic betweem kessix and LA to spread if tengu dont have wps there im sure hes feeding off other things to reach la (the tengu theirselves could be used as a source of magic food i fear)

Ps: anyone else have the fear that the vines are gonna end up feeding off zhaitans dead magic galore body?

Well the waypoints are all connected, so even if there aren’t any waypoints in the Dominion of Winds, the vines can still spread on the other side of it. Which they have I think.

onemantankwall.3641:

Ps: anyone else have the fear that the vines are gonna end up feeding off zhaitans dead magic galore body?

Has it been explained what happened to the magic that Zhaitan had consumed when he died? (I haven’t done the final PS quest/dungeon)

Mmmm interesting question. We cant see Zhaitan body so we cant know what happend with it and with the magic inside. THis can take two ways. First the death of Zhaitan can make the magic inside to be free and return to the world. On the other way the dead body can have the magic inside. This last theory can explain that the vines move to Orr. But i dont think vines are looking for zhaitans body.

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

onemantankwall.3641:

… a giant elder dragon loot sack…

Both cigarette smoke AND coffee through the nose… thanks for that!

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

True, I didn’t think of Glint’s body. But maybe Elder dragons are different?
Maybe that could partially explain Teq’s increased “power”, that he’s been feeding on Zhaitan’s corpse while he’s out there.

skullmount.1758:

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

True, I didn’t think of Glint’s body. But maybe Elder dragons are different?
Maybe that could partially explain Teq’s increased “power”, that he’s been feeding on Zhaitan’s corpse while he’s out there.

I’m sure you can find it somewhere, but i’m pretty sure this is the “excuse” for Teqs power increase.

Ignavia.7420:

That would mean that there is a trigger (servertime or whatever) in game and that they don’t need to patch in every change manually.

Yes, that’s totally possible. Don’t you always see mobs, NPCs or whatever in game always spawn and unspawn at predetermined times? These vines can use the same or similar logic Resources and objects are already in games, it’s just a matter of flipping a switch for making them to come to life.

shadow.6174:

Ignavia.7420:

That would mean that there is a trigger (servertime or whatever) in game and that they don’t need to patch in every change manually.

Yes, that’s totally possible. Don’t you always see mobs, NPCs or whatever in game always spawn and unspawn at predetermined times? These vines can use the same or similar logic Resources and objects are already in games, it’s just a matter of flipping a switch for making them to come to life.

Yeah that is right, of course. I did not make that connection.^^

Wait a minute….

why are we (including NPCs) just starring at those vines that seem to destroy our means to travel and potentially suck out all the magic out of Tyria?

Anybody tried cutting them? (NPCs)

Im sure 99,99% that NPCs dont see vines :P

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

Underdark.3726:

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

You aren’t alone on this:

Tanith.5264:

EDIT: Take care if you travel to Fort Salma to investigate matters, friends. My engineer ported there and immediately was trapped by the vine “strangling” the waypoint. Fortunately Tippi Kaboom is an engineer who feels everything can be solved with explosions, and freed herself with Jump Shot.

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

That’s assuming Zhaitan is dead. We don’t have a body….

Underdark.3726:

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

Nope, it’s a glitch. Seems either if you’re porting there from outside of Kissex or at least a distance away it puts you into the vine. This is unintended since I could port to the WP right next to it and not glitch into it. Expect a fix sometime soon-ish.

Ronin.7381:

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

That’s assuming Zhaitan is dead. We don’t have a body….

Underdark.3726:

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

Nope, it’s a glitch. Seems either if you’re porting there from outside of Kissex or at least a distance away it puts you into the vine. This is unintended since I could port to the WP right next to it and not glitch into it. Expect a fix sometime soon-ish.

Devs have stated zhaitan is def dead (really old news btw)

I did try pouring water on the one in Fort Salma (I think that was the one). Alas, it did nothing. Nor was I able to climb very far up the vine. Ah, well. At least I didn’t get shocked! =P

Ronin.7381:

Nope, it’s a glitch. Seems either if you’re porting there from outside of Kissex or at least a distance away it puts you into the vine. This is unintended since I could port to the WP right next to it and not glitch into it. Expect a fix sometime soon-ish.

That’s a bug then and someone would need to report it (if nobody still has done it so).

Edit: yes, already reported: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Fort-Salma-Waypoint

onemantankwall.3641:

Ronin.7381:

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

That’s assuming Zhaitan is dead. We don’t have a body….

Underdark.3726:

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

Nope, it’s a glitch. Seems either if you’re porting there from outside of Kissex or at least a distance away it puts you into the vine. This is unintended since I could port to the WP right next to it and not glitch into it. Expect a fix sometime soon-ish.

Devs have stated zhaitan is def dead (really old news btw)

They say Tequatl The Sunless increased in power following Zhaitan’s “defeat”. No body, no confirmation.

Ronin.7381:

onemantankwall.3641:

Ronin.7381:

onemantankwall.3641:

His body would hold the magic he absorbed just like glints body with the aspects hes literally a giant elder dragon loot sack waiting to be devoured or u can also compare it to the magic in jormags tooth unless its consumed its there to be claimed idk why anet let the body just fall without disposing of the body it creates a huge plot hole, ring of fire (where prim is) is right next to orr, mordy map hops with vines, the body is beyond easily accessible, if another dragon was to consume his magic (even if its just outta spite of each other, that dragon would be crazily unstoppable

Even the zephyrites have crazy mad power from glints body (whos only a champion) if ANYONE went after zhaitans power they would reach god status

That’s assuming Zhaitan is dead. We don’t have a body….

Underdark.3726:

i was stuck in the Salma Waypoint tonight. That happened only to me or is “normal”?

Nope, it’s a glitch. Seems either if you’re porting there from outside of Kissex or at least a distance away it puts you into the vine. This is unintended since I could port to the WP right next to it and not glitch into it. Expect a fix sometime soon-ish.

Devs have stated zhaitan is def dead (really old news btw)

They say Tequatl The Sunless increased in power following Zhaitan’s “defeat”. No body, no confirmation.

We do have lots of pieces of his body and we constantly get more for doing Arah explorable. The Shards of Zhaitan dungeon tokens are, as the name suggests pieces of Zhaitan. They even have a lore text on them saying that they are pieces of him and that he is forever dead.

I can’t even begin to say how refreshing it is to see threads on this board with players talking about and consumed with ideas, paths, problems, what is really happening, etc on this vine thing. I have been out myself to just check waypoints to see what is happening and where. So cool to see quite a few of us so immersed in the story…Anet has done a really good job on this one, imo.

So fun to just try and figure out what is happening and where the true threat is going to appear, and what is being done to the wps……so cool….so cool!!!!

Teon.5168:

I can’t even begin to say how refreshing it is to see threads on this board with players talking about and consumed with ideas, paths, problems, what is really happening, etc on this vine thing. I have been out myself to just check waypoints to see what is happening and where. So cool to see quite a few of us so immersed in the story…Anet has done a really good job on this one, imo.

So fun to just try and figure out what is happening and where the true threat is going to appear, and what is being done to the wps……so cool….so cool!!!!

Yup, that’s cool and really feels like it’s a living world, I like that too.

Fort Marinner Wp flicking now too, seems odd being that far away from Maguma

lol, looking at how flickering wp is progressing, maybe Mordy is doing its best to reach Sparkfly Fen (part of Maguuma according to AN) as soon as possible to flip off at Teq:

“kitten off, here is my hood. You undead lizards go have your beach party elsewhere”

Based on what I read on another thread (or a webpage, I can’t recall it) the teaser vid for the next patch shows a fort at Timberline Falls… maybe it does give a hint of where it’s going?

shadow.6174:

Based on what I read on another thread (or a webpage, I can’t recall it) the teaser vid for the next patch shows a fort at Timberline Falls… maybe it does give a hint of where it’s going?

Virgil/Pact may go “Remember Concordia!” in future episodes :p

By the running through the journals in Scarlet’s crib at Prosperity, I am constantly hoping that all remaining elder dragons will rush to Orr to soak whatever magic left in Zhaitan’s body to further strengthen their power. But by the direction tendrils are moving towards to (Ascalon/Crystal Desert), Mordy seems eager to pick a fight with Kralk. What if the tendrils are just extension of Glint’s legacy, her vengeance for being killed by the crystal dragon.

Any lore expert can indulge lore noob me :p ?