Guild Wars 2

Hey I was wondering if The drop rate NERF to Winter berries was intended. Going from 40-50 berries to 15-20 is really Sucky. It had been so high for so long its really upsetting to get them changed after working on all the other maps.

EoNenmacil.2361:

Hey I was wondering if The drop rate NERF to Winter berries was intended. Going from 40-50 berries to 15-20 is really Sucky. It had been so high for so long its really upsetting to get them changed after working on all the other maps.

Is this change somewhere in the patch notes? I don’t remember seeing it. I hate when game companies stealth nerf.

There’s more than that many nodes so if this turns out to be true, there’s an issue.

What gives the OP the impression that it was nerfed? How many runs do you usually do? What’s the range of rates/run? How many runs have you done since the last major patch?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

What gives the OP the impression that it was nerfed? How many runs do you usually do? What’s the range of rates/run? How many runs have you done since the last major patch?

Well considering there’s just about 40 nodes on the map, I’d consider 15-20 berries a nerf as that would mean some nodes were giving zero berries despite them supposed to give at least one.

This of course assuming the OP wasn’t skipping any nodes or depositing them to their bank by accident and not realizing it.

Ayrilana.1396:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

What gives the OP the impression that it was nerfed? How many runs do you usually do? What’s the range of rates/run? How many runs have you done since the last major patch?

Well considering there’s just about 40 nodes on the map, I’d consider 15-20 berries a nerf as that would mean some nodes were giving zero berries despite them supposed to give at least one.

This of course assuming the OP wasn’t skipping any nodes or depositing them to their bank by accident and not realizing it.

I agree that 15-20 berries would be a nerf, but I’ve seen too many “was this nerfed” posts that turned out to be misunderstanding rather than nerfs. In particular, some people still haven’t realized that a lot of things are now stored in material storage, including w-berries.

I’m talking about my Farming Path, From testing I only get 1 Winter Berry per bush and 3-5 Unbound magic per node. Form past runs and wiki i used to get up to 3 a bush and 10 – 20 unbound magic.

EoNenmacil.2361:

I’m talking about my Farming Path, From testing I only get 1 Winter Berry per bush and 3-5 Unbound magic per node. Form past runs and wiki i used to get up to 3 a bush and 10 – 20 unbound magic.

As far as I am aware, only the Winterberry node in the Home Instance gives 3 berries on gather. I do not recall any Winterberry node in Bitterfrost giving more than 1 berry, ever.

OP might you be thinking of the fact that we used to get multiple whacks at the same bush? Before Power of the Mists was removed, that would happen regularly (especially Wed-Fri before reset); it rarely happens now. That possibly amounts to a 20% drop in berries. In addition, having any gathering boosts running increases the chance of bonus berries dropping from each ‘whack’; it you aren’t using those now, you’d also see a big drop.

That’s why it’s important to describe in detail how you are gathering, so we can compare apples to apples (or, um, winterberry to winterberry). Better yet is to run controlled tests, keeping careful track.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winterberry_Bush

The drops posted here are no longer correct. Go test it your self.

I wanted to Know if drop rate change was a bug or intended. That is all thank you.

I farmed them yesterday with two characters and the drop rate looked normal, will do it today with three characters anyway and note the numbers. Usually I get like 50-60 per full run (also farming the three spots outside the main area).

@EoNenmacil: your premise that the drop rate changed needs to be evaluated first, then we can talk about causes.

Faaris.8013:

I farmed them yesterday with two characters and the drop rate looked normal, will do it today with three characters anyway and note the numbers. Usually I get like 50-60 per full run (also farming the three spots outside the main area).

@EoNenmacil: your premise that the drop rate changed needs to be evaluated first, then we can talk about causes.

This was what I was trying to say above.

Just finished three runs. 55/53/50. All spots, without hearts. The first run did the daily berry collector achievement that gave 3 (I think).

Looks normal to me, maybe other people here can confirm.

Faaris.8013:

Just finished three runs. 55/53/50. All spots, without hearts. The first run did the daily berry collector achievement that gave 3 (I think).

Looks normal to me, maybe other people here can confirm.

The dailies give 2 a piece (total of 8 for all 4)

42 available bushes

Icebound chests have a drop rate of 1-2 (excluding the Bitter Cold, those are 0-3) , and there’s 31 spawn locations for those

And then you have the ones you can buy from the hearts (which is 5 per heart)

right around 50 sounds about right. ive not done a run since last weekend.

A full map run gives me now (with 3 heart quest) 58-67 berries. In past it gave 70-85.

The difference comes PURELY from removing extra strikes that wvw panel gave. It has a huge impact on every kind of material farm, including elder wood log.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

A full map run gives me now (with 3 heart quest) 58-67 berries. In past it gave 70-85.

The difference comes PURELY from removing extra strikes that wvw panel gave. It has a huge impact on every kind of material farm, including elder wood log.

I agree, I really loved that extra strike, always made a bit happy when I got one. I never got 70 to 85 though, and usually I do both hearts in the berry area and the achievements (except elixir). My numbers already include the berries you get from chests randomly because there are a few in the berry area and I open a few on my way to the other spots. They are part of my berry run, so I consider the berries regular drops. Higher variance though than bushes.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

A full map run gives me now (with 3 heart quest) 58-67 berries. In past it gave 70-85.

The difference comes PURELY from removing extra strikes that wvw panel gave. It has a huge impact on every kind of material farm, including elder wood log.

I dont think I’ve ever gotten 70 – 85. I think my best run (sans hearts and dailies), hitting every bush and chests I knew of, was 67. I’ll have to get back into doing these and see if I note the difference. I’ve never been on a ‘good’ wvw server, so perhaps I may not.

My normal run gets about 40-50 normally. I did two runs yesterday and got 40-50 each.

Remember that I included 15 winterberries that you buy from heart vendors for karma. Not sure if that was clear. Average it was about 67-71 (often). I got a rare spike of 85. That was with 4x striking single berry node, few times, 7+ icebound chest all giving 1-2 winterberries. Now i’m stuck at maximum 60, usually 53-57.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Remember that I included 15 winterberries that you buy from heart vendors for karma. Not sure if that was clear. Average it was about 67-71 (often). I got a rare spike of 85. That was with 4x striking single berry node, few times, 7+ icebound chest all giving 1-2 winterberries. Now i’m stuck at maximum 60, usually 53-57.

Unlike the OP, do you attribute this entirely to the removal of the extra strike(s) after losing Power of the Mists?

I ask because the consensus seems to be that the drop rate hasn’t changed recently, other than that — a lot of people are saying their rates have been consistent before and (although fewer) after.