where there is light, shadows lurk and fear reigns.
lack of bloodstone ruby nodes
- It’s not a dead zone; I see people in it all the time.
- The nodes weren’t nerfed recently. They did add some limits to how many unbound you could farm in each area and (in effect) how many b-nodes you could farm within a 24-hour period on the same character.
The drop rate for b-rubies from the nodes is pretty low. RNG being what it is, you can go a while without getting any. I usually only farm 3-7 nodes/day (far below the limit). Some days I get 5 b-rubies; some days, none.
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welp then what the point of going there if i can get 50 from a track on another mode >.< they need to add another ascended ring to next map or something.
where there is light, shadows lurk and fear reigns.
If I wanted the ring again, I’d grind out 10k unbound magic in bitterfrost, buy the node for my home instance, and know I would get three rubies a day from that. because that all hurts less and takes less time than doing it in the real map.
welp then what the point of going there if i can get 50 from a track on another mode >.< they need to add another ascended ring to next map or something.
You get guaranteed rubies from doing events. I don’t try to get rubies only from nodes. Those are just a bonus if you get them.
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
I bought the home instance node. Assuming no salvaging you get 3 rubies a day that way. Easier than going to the homing-rock zone, even if it does take slightly over a month per character to get a ring.
welp then what the point of going there if i can get 50 from a track on another mode >.< they need to add another ascended ring to next map or something.
They did (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ascended_trinket), in Bitterfrost frontier which ultimately is also easier to get than the one from Bloodstone Fen depending on how many characters you have available.
At 200 Winterberries and 2k unbound magic you can grind 1 ring per day for each 4.5 characters you run through the Winterberry forest (aprox 40-50 winterberries and 250-300 unbound magic per character). At 10-15 minutes per run that’s 1 ascended ring per hour. That’s even faster than fractals or at least just as fast.
Since rings are unique, if you want to wear 2 of the same infusing or attuning 1 of them still works to be able to wear 2 of the same type. Won’t work for T4 fractals (since you need attuned and infused rings usually) unless you compensate losing 1 agony infusion slot.
I bought the home instance node. Assuming no salvaging you get 3 rubies a day that way. Easier than going to the homing-rock zone, even if it does take slightly over a month per character to get a ring.
Same here, plus doing the 2 dailies in bloodstone fen(5 gliding skills and 10 unbound magic gathered) you end up getting easy 5 rubies per day. That’s 150 rubies per month for basically 1 minute of dailies and the usual home zone farm per day. That’s before any actual farming.
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Unfortunately the ascended items are unique. So if you got a ring from Winterfrost for one hand you still need one for the other.
edit: Oh, did not notice you wrote about infused. Although if I am understanding it right you need to do fractals? What I am doing is getting one ascended ring on everyone and the second ring on them in priority order. Characters I do not play often may not get their rings until next year but ones I play almost every day will have them the soonest.
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welp then what the point of going there if i can get 50 from a track on another mode >.< they need to add another ascended ring to next map or something.
At 200 Winterberries and 2k unbound magic you can grind 1 ring per day
Wow, that is some grind. I cringe to think about it lol!
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
welp then what the point of going there if i can get 50 from a track on another mode >.< they need to add another ascended ring to next map or something.
At 200 Winterberries and 2k unbound magic you can grind 1 ring per day
Wow, that is some grind. I cringe to think about it lol!
It takes about 5 minutes to do a “berry run” that gets about 50 berries and 400-500 unbound magic so about 20-25 minutes to run 4-5 characters through there (assuming you have that many level 80s) to get a ring. Let’s call it 30 minutes. Not too bad, IMO, you’ll also get some loot from the mobs that’ll attack you.
It takes about 5 minutes to do a “berry run” that gets about 50 berries and 400-500 unbound magic so about 20-25 minutes to run 4-5 characters through there (assuming you have that many level 80s) to get a ring. Let’s call it 30 minutes. Not too bad, IMO, you’ll also get some loot from the mobs that’ll attack you.
You are obviously not talking about Winterberries, otherwise you would not claim it takes 5 minutes per run, including killing mobs for loot. With my thief, often in stealth mode and with basically perma-dash, it takes me maybe 15 minutes, without killing anything and not including the 3 nodes outside the main berry area. If you collect some wood, unbound magic and ore on the way, it takes longer (and there is an orichalcum node that you don’t want to ignore).
It’s still not much “work” though for the rewards compared to rubies or petrified wood.
Herleve – Ruins of Surmia
Yes, whenever I see claims of 5 minutes or 10 minutes for winterberries I have to laugh. I spend much longer than that, On a typical berry run I also do chests, any dailies (not counting the elixir, which is strange to make a daily), a couple hearts, kill mobs, and a few dynamic events. Then there is inventory maintenance every once in awhile. I usually park my characters near the central WP too. OK, I am not min/maxing the run, but hey.
It takes about 5 minutes to do a “berry run” that gets about 50 berries and 400-500 unbound magic so about 20-25 minutes to run 4-5 characters through there (assuming you have that many level 80s) to get a ring. Let’s call it 30 minutes. Not too bad, IMO, you’ll also get some loot from the mobs that’ll attack you.
You are obviously not talking about Winterberries, otherwise you would not claim it takes 5 minutes per run, including killing mobs for loot. With my thief, often in stealth mode and with basically perma-dash, it takes me maybe 15 minutes, without killing anything and not including the 3 nodes outside the main berry area. If you collect some wood, unbound magic and ore on the way, it takes longer (and there is an orichalcum node that you don’t want to ignore).
It’s still not much “work” though for the rewards compared to rubies or petrified wood.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about.
This is pretty much the route I take, the video is 6:43 long, the first 30 second and last 40 seconds are getting into position and the guy showing what he got which leaves a run that hits every berry bush in the north west of the map and takes 5 minutes 33 seconds or so.
I tend to leave my alts at the last berry bush I harvest on the run so I don’t have the initial run to the first bush. So yeah, it takes 5:30 to 6 minutes on a character with easy/permanent swiftness (including the Orichalcum node and killing those mobs who hit you, I never said I kill every mob) a little longer if you have less access to swiftness or if you want to harvest wood or plants on the way.
It certainly shouldn’t take anything like 15 minutes unless you decide to complete the grawl and griffon heart along the way. I don’t know what you’re doing that takes so long. Maybe your route just isn’t as efficient as this or you visit other berry plants outside this route?
Yes, whenever I see claims of 5 minutes or 10 minutes for winterberries I have to laugh. I spend much longer than that, On a typical berry run I also do chests, any dailies (not counting the elixir, which is strange to make a daily), a couple hearts, kill mobs, and a few dynamic events. Then there is inventory maintenance every once in awhile. I usually park my characters near the central WP too. OK, I am not min/maxing the run, but hey.
I’m talking about berry runs. That is, doing runs with the specific purpose of getting berries. What you’re talking about is not a berry run, it’s you doing dailies and a bunch of other activities in the zone whilst also picking up some berries.
Also I don’t bother with the elixir, you basically just get some karma for berries. Berries are worth a lot more to me.
This is pretty much the route I take, the video is 6:43 long, the first 30 second and last 40 seconds are getting into position and the guy showing what he got which leaves a run that hits every berry bush in the north west of the map and takes 5 minutes 33 seconds or so.
I watched the video. That guy swings at a bush and has the berries. I don’t know which buff or sickle he uses, but it takes 3 times as long with a normal sickle. That makes the difference because in that additional time, the mobs get more opportunity to slow you down. When the griffons show up, he’s already gone from the spot.
Seriously, I would love to have that speed when gathering stuff, do you know if the gem store harvesting sickles are faster than the normal ones? Or if one of the buffs he uses speeds it up? Otherwise I am thankful for the Necromancers for keeping the berry nodes free from aggressive mobs.
Herleve – Ruins of Surmia
This is pretty much the route I take, the video is 6:43 long, the first 30 second and last 40 seconds are getting into position and the guy showing what he got which leaves a run that hits every berry bush in the north west of the map and takes 5 minutes 33 seconds or so.
I watched the video. That guy swings at a bush and has the berries. I don’t know which buff or sickle he uses, but it takes 3 times as long with a normal sickle. That makes the difference because in that additional time, the mobs get more opportunity to slow you down. When the griffons show up, he’s already gone from the spot.
Seriously, I would love to have that speed when gathering stuff, do you know if the gem store harvesting sickles are faster than the normal ones? Or if one of the buffs he uses speeds it up? Otherwise I am thankful for the Necromancers for keeping the berry nodes free from aggressive mobs.
Ah yeah, he’s using the Fused Molten Sickle it and the Consortium Harvesting Sickle take about half the time normal sickles do. I think that the other gem store sickles are the same speed as a mithril or orichalcum sickle.
The time savings are great and it means that you can often get in and out without being hit by the lumbering trolls.
Ah yeah, he’s using the Fused Molten Sickle it and the Consortium Harvesting Sickle take about half the time normal sickles do. I think that the other gem store sickles are the same speed as a mithril or orichalcum sickle.
The time savings are great and it means that you can often get in and out without being hit by the lumbering trolls.
Thank you, I think the convenience those items provide is well worth the money. I wasn’t aware they have different speeds. Before I buy them, I’ll make sure to learn that.
Good to have discussed this, I see now where the “5 minutes” come from.
Herleve – Ruins of Surmia
Yes, it helps to know that. I usually use the UM sickles or an unbreakable but not one of those two. Strange anet would change the speed on some but not all. If I am not fighting a mob to get the bush though, someone else is fighting a mob there and it would seem a bit …. uncouth …. to run up, harvest, and run away leaving them to fight the mob themselves. On the plus side, my typical trips to bitterfrost net me 2,000 to 3,000 UM so there is that.
Yes, it helps to know that. I usually use the UM sickles or an unbreakable but not one of those two. Strange anet would change the speed on some but not all. If I am not fighting a mob to get the bush though, someone else is fighting a mob there and it would seem a bit …. uncouth …. to run up, harvest, and run away leaving them to fight the mob themselves. On the plus side, my typical trips to bitterfrost net me 2,000 to 3,000 UM so there is that.
That is exactly what happens. I don’t do berry runs with a dedicated berry character. It is the same character I do other things with. So I get hit by mobs and I sometimes stop and fight them or they might gang up on me and I pay the price. I see exactly how many people will run by me fighting the mob to grab the berries. If each of them only contributed 1 shot to the mob as they ran by it would make my life easier lol.
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
So let’s assume 15 minutes per berry run since not every class can zip through like a thief and not everyone owns the Consortium Harvesting Sickle (and no, it’s not more than 15 minutes. I’ve run through the berry forest with every class and every gear starting with rares up to full ascended multiple times).
Let’s also assume we need 250 berries (for unbound magic for purchase, rest comes from gathering the berries) and we gather 50 berries (it’s actually slightly more) per character per run, I fail to see how 75 minutes of farming is in any way unreasonable per literally 1 best in slot ring.
You can even split that time up since no progress is lost if you decide to gather the next day or some time later.
If you get distracted or decide to artificially make your farms take longer, that is hardly the fault of the farm.
So let’s assume 15 minutes per berry run since not every class can zip through like a thief and not everyone owns the Consortium Harvesting Sickle (and no, it’s not more than 15 minutes. I’ve run through the berry forest with every class and every gear starting with rares up to full ascended multiple times).
You don’t think that this fact alone increases your speed? O.o
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
So let’s assume 15 minutes per berry run since not every class can zip through like a thief and not everyone owns the Consortium Harvesting Sickle (and no, it’s not more than 15 minutes. I’ve run through the berry forest with every class and every gear starting with rares up to full ascended multiple times).
You don’t think that this fact alone increases your speed? O.o
Let me rephrase that, I did not do some crazy amazing impossible thing to do. I ran through the forest with my characters without switching traits, using only the utilities I had on them for other game modes and didn’t even have permanent swiftness or condition cleanse on some of them.
It’s called establishing a baseline.
This is literally doable by every single person who plays this game unless you suffer from severe attention deficite disorder and can’t stay focused on 1 task for 15 minutes at a time.
So let’s assume 15 minutes per berry run since not every class can zip through like a thief and not everyone owns the Consortium Harvesting Sickle (and no, it’s not more than 15 minutes. I’ve run through the berry forest with every class and every gear starting with rares up to full ascended multiple times).
You don’t think that this fact alone increases your speed? O.o
Let me rephrase that, I did not do some crazy amazing impossible thing to do. I ran through the forest with my characters without switching traits, using only the utilities I had on them for other game modes and didn’t even have permanent swiftness or condition cleanse on some of them.
It’s called establishing a baseline.
This is literally doable by every single person who plays this game unless you suffer from severe attention deficite disorder and can’t stay focused on 1 task for 15 minutes at a time.
My point was that you obviously do this a lot. Therefore you have a certain route, know what spawns where, etc. This increases your speed. Most players aren’t going to farm like this. They go somewhere long enough to get the one thing that they want and then the leave. They don’t have it memorized.
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
So let’s assume 15 minutes per berry run since not every class can zip through like a thief and not everyone owns the Consortium Harvesting Sickle (and no, it’s not more than 15 minutes. I’ve run through the berry forest with every class and every gear starting with rares up to full ascended multiple times).
You don’t think that this fact alone increases your speed? O.o
Let me rephrase that, I did not do some crazy amazing impossible thing to do. I ran through the forest with my characters without switching traits, using only the utilities I had on them for other game modes and didn’t even have permanent swiftness or condition cleanse on some of them.
It’s called establishing a baseline.
This is literally doable by every single person who plays this game unless you suffer from severe attention deficite disorder and can’t stay focused on 1 task for 15 minutes at a time.
My point was that you obviously do this a lot. Therefore you have a certain route, know what spawns where, etc. This increases your speed. Most players aren’t going to farm like this. They go somewhere long enough to get the one thing that they want and then the leave. They don’t have it memorized.
Exactly why I said 15 minutes and not 8 minutes. I never said it took me 15 minutes on my characters, I said it would definately NOT take more than 15 minutes.
If I can run from patch to patch (which are conveniently marked on the minimap in a unique icon) and gather winterberries in less than 15 minutes without perma swiftness, condition cleanse or proper utilities with characters geared in rares, so can any one else.
Obviously it would be faster for most players since they would take swiftness or condition cleanse if they farm winterberries.
…can’t stay focused on 1 task for 15 minutes at a time.
That would be the person who starts fights with Veterans while his main objective should be harvesting berries ^^
I don’t feel bad not joining fights, I happily cover everybody at the bush with Shadow Refuge. If you start hitting mobs, it’s your decision.
Herleve – Ruins of Surmia
so i recently needed a ring for an alt and i go to bloodstone fen cause i was tired of doing tracks for spvp and i can hardly find any that will drop any rubies i see way more mithril and even with alts that can go there its well they hardly get any heck highest i got was 10 on 1 character. i have also notice a lack in other characters finding nodes like there is only a set random amount or something and even then its hardly a chance to find the darn rubies.
did they nerf this zone or something cause this would be a reason its kinda dead. also i know there is another zone with another ring but i can’t find the stange rock thing for ember bay and i got the one from the quaggan.
Best things to do for Bloodstone Fen, Bitterfrost and Lake Doric:
1. Buy a node for your home instance – harvest it daily.
2. Take the WvW track and go into WvW when it’s very busy.
3. Run boosts from guilds and potions to up the ‘chance’ of rubies and other materials.
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I am wondering if the run time counts the fact that not every bush is in the one corner of the map?
I am wondering if the run time counts the fact that not every bush is in the one corner of the map?
Yes, that’s hard to say. Those who farm berries seem to think that everyone would know the best route. Those who are simply running to the next node they see on their minimap because they don’t normally farm, are probably going to miss a lot of nodes unless they run around actively looking for more, or look up a guide, which would ultimately add more time to their run.
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol