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pale tree SPOILER question
Well, we know for a fact there is at least ONE other tree out there. So, it stands to reason that both those seeds (and perhaps more) came from SOMEWHERE, and that they existed before the time of GW1.
It’s very likely the tree knows a lot more then she lets on yes, even in the PS she was bizarrely knowledgeable about all things dragon.
It just doesn’t make sense to me that the pale tree is the center of Tyria since it…
a.) exists only for a “short” time
b.) isn’t the only one
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It could be that the Pale Tree is a source of magic. The Leylines are like currents of magic, and the places they intersect are extraordinarily powerful. If the Human Gods are sources of Magic, I don’t see why the Pale Tree cannot be one as well. I always wondered if the Dream wasn’t connected to the Mists in some manner, and since magic comes from the Mists as well, if the Pale Tree is connected to the Mists through the Dream, then it seems plausible she is the strongest source of magic on Tyria, and thus represents its, “Center.”
It just doesn’t make sense to me that the pale tree is the center of Tyria since it…
a.) exists only for a “short” time
b.) isn’t the only one
I don’t think it’s the center of Tyria, rather whatever it originated from might be the center.
we don’t have the full picture yet. maybe it’s a biased view of the universe, because the machine doesn’t “truly” show you the eternal alchemy. maybe it’s not the pale tree at all, just scarlet projecting it on a pattern, then us projecting that because we had heard what scarlet saw.
we’ll probably have more information soon, but right now it’s hard to speculate.
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It could be that the Pale Tree is a source of magic. The Leylines are like currents of magic, and the places they intersect are extraordinarily powerful. If the Human Gods are sources of Magic, I don’t see why the Pale Tree cannot be one as well. I always wondered if the Dream wasn’t connected to the Mists in some manner, and since magic comes from the Mists as well, if the Pale Tree is connected to the Mists through the Dream, then it seems plausible she is the strongest source of magic on Tyria, and thus represents its, “Center.”
We have been informed that the role of the 6 gods regarding magic is no longer viable because it was Human Centric and the Humans were “mistaken”.
I do not like the implication that it is perfectly fine for a Sylvari Centric entity to become the “Center” of magic after the Retcon of the 6 gods pointed out that race centric magic lore needed to be removed.
But odds are, its gonna happen. It is, after all, The Salad Mother.
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It just doesn’t make sense to me that the pale tree is the center of Tyria since it…
a.) exists only for a “short” time
b.) isn’t the only one
Maybe the vision isn’t of Tyria, maybe it’s a “replay” of the vision Scarlet had – and the Pale Tree is at the centre because that’s how the world is for a sylvari.
Maybe the Pale Tree isn’t what the centre is, maybe that’s how it has been incorrectly interpreted. Maybe it’s the “Dream” or the Mists.
It could be that the Pale Tree is a source of magic. The Leylines are like currents of magic, and the places they intersect are extraordinarily powerful. If the Human Gods are sources of Magic, I don’t see why the Pale Tree cannot be one as well. I always wondered if the Dream wasn’t connected to the Mists in some manner, and since magic comes from the Mists as well, if the Pale Tree is connected to the Mists through the Dream, then it seems plausible she is the strongest source of magic on Tyria, and thus represents its, “Center.”
We have been informed that the role of the 6 gods regarding magic is no longer viable because it was Human Centric and the Humans were “mistaken”.
I do not like the implication that it is perfectly fine for a Sylvari Centric entity to become the “Center” of magic after the Retcon of the 6 gods pointed out that race centric magic lore needed to be removed.But odds are, its gonna happen. It is, after all, The Salad Mother.
actually, if i recall correctly, the importance of the six gods remained largely the same. it’s only that the human-centric view was like “THE GODS DID THIS AND NO ONE ELSE WAS AROUND” and “THERE WAS NOTHING BEFORE WE CAME, TRUE STORY”.
the new version is more like “the human gods and the seers sealed away all magic. the human gods (i.e. abaddon) said ‘screw it, here’s your magic’, which went really bad. so they went back on it and pushed magic back into the (now broken) bloodstones”.
all the new lore tells us is that the human gods aren’t the end all and be all of magic. the bloodstones still did their thing, though now with all the magic they (likely bled out) lost, tyria is as if the bloodstones weren’t there, returning to its “natural, pre-god-tampering” state.
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The cutscene shows our character going PAST the pale tree.
We see the tree, then it zoom to the orbs.
The Pale Tree, to me, is not the source of magic/center. It is merely connected to it.
The question is, what exactly is the center of that design.
Do the smaller orbs represent magic, dragons, or something else?
Where do the mists play in that design?
As well as the 6 gods. They were able to control magic. Where do they fit?
Hopefully we’ll find out in the next update, though I doubt we’ll figure it all out. ANet wouldn’t be that nice. :P
The cutscene shows our character going PAST the pale tree.
That was the impression I got as well.
The sphere in the centre is probably Tyria. It almost looks like a distorted map. Then the green sphere, which I presume is Mordremoth, engulfs it.
The cutscene shows our character going PAST the pale tree.
That was the impression I got as well.
The sphere in the centre is probably Tyria. It almost looks like a distorted map. Then the green sphere, which I presume is Mordremoth, engulfs it.
Oh you’re right. It is the world if you look closely. Just with some glowing golden center.
Though it’s even more confusing, because if the orbs represent the dragons, or the magic they use, why aren’t they fighting over that juicy core? It seems like they are taking turns.
Probably a lame way to explain why all the dragons don’t all do stuff at once so us players can easily focus on one thing without the world blowing up. :P
Clearly something has Mordremoth all riled up.
the pale tree is conected to nature i guess it has all its memories
I just think its too early to ask questions like this. We do not know enough to have answers.
“He shall make whole that which was torn asunder.
Restore that which was lost. And all shall be as one.”
Restore that which was lost. And all shall be as one.”
I’m not sure how it fits together myself. Perhaps the Pale Tree(s) are a hive mind and can communicate with each other while Sylvari cannot with other clans through their specific dream. However, I’m curious as to how they clear this up and whether or not Malyck will have a role to play in future episodes.
Where do the mists play in that design?
I think the Mists are the design, the framework which everything floats and meanders in. That whole fabric of space and time is the mists.
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It shows Tyria or rather the part of Tyria connected to the Pale Tree….
The central orb shows a distorted map with a golden glow in the center….
Maybe Mordremoth corrupted the dream of the continent of Tyria itself….
Malyck’s tree has no Dream and as such this means that the Pale Tree’s dream is tied to Tyria’s spot in the Eternal Alchemy…..
Mordremoth had corrupted the continent’s Dream….. Yes…. it would seem that the continent dreams….. And was corrupted by Mordremoth creating the Nightmare….
Ventari’s tablet keeps the Pale Tree and those protected by her safe from the Elder Dragon corrupted Dream of Tyria….
Do note that the Nightmare appears to be everywhere in the Dream….. The Pale Tree’s protection keeps Sylvari from being corrupted by continent’s Nightmare into Mordrem….
Malyck’s tree has no Dream and as such this means that the Pale Tree’s dream is tied to Tyria’s spot in the Eternal Alchemy…..
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. We don’t know for certain if he has a dream of his own, we just know he’s not apart of the player’s Dream (that which The Grove supplies).
Ventari’s tablet keeps the Pale Tree and those protected by her safe from the Elder Dragon corrupted Dream of Tyria….
Here is where I’m mixed. I want to believe the tablet is nothing but stone created by Ventari, inscribed with ideas that the Pale Tree grew attached to. However, in this episode we are told of powerful artifacts that are likely being targeted specifically. Being that it’s a world of magic, it’s not hard to imagine Ventari’s tablet is magically imbued and quite possibly adding as a source of protection.