Guild Wars 2

There are quite a few Personal Story scenes that take place in Lion’s Arch. If the city is nuked, as most suspect it will be, then how what affect will it have on these Personal Story scenes? Has anything been said on the subject?

You will enter from a separate portal, and play the mission as usual. The Personal Story is locked in time, so LA being destroyed now doesn’t really matter for the Personal Story.

The destruction of LA was after the main story arch. So makes sense that you are playing a memory if you will.

You can still do the PS.
Due to technical limitations with the game engine, it does look weird now.

Unfortunately, the personal storyline instances still take place AFTER Scarlet has invaded LA. It ruins any immersion in the story…

• Kids are playing in a burning city filled with miasma and Scarlet’s armies.
• Tybalt is selling apples in the empty ruins of LA
• Destiny’s Edge discussing the threat of Dragons while Scarlet destroys LA…
• Caithe: We cannot help the others. How can we help Tyria? …………………………………………………..

Perhaps start by saving people in LA instead of creating drama with your former guild?

The personal story is effectively corrupted. It’s acting similarly to an older sprite-based game that’s loaded the wrong data for an area. Right now, the “destroyed” map is close enough to the original that it’s playable. Any further changes could make sections of the PS unplayable. It just depends upon what they change.

That’s pretty funny. I kinda saw it coming because I noticed LA was snowed in my personal story instance back in December, so my guess was that it makes a personal copy of the map you are into in its current state. I was hoping though that it would be taken care of for this patch.

They must have either not had the time for a proper fix, or considered this an acceptable state of the personal story instance (which is in my opinion unacceptable). Either way, it seems like poor polish on the patch.

If this is a temporary map, let’s say… for 4 weeks only, i guess Anet did ignore this problem and it’ll be automatically fixed in the fresh new lion’s arch map after the attack.

Think in the tower of nightmares to get my point.

Caveth.3268:

Unfortunately, the personal storyline instances still take place AFTER Scarlet has invaded LA. It ruins any immersion in the story…

… BWAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Those screenshots are hilarious! XD

here is another screenie. Really makes the PS seem pointless.

Lol don’t worry guys. Just ignore PS for some time, anet will fix it for sure.

Or they can simply correct it. I’m pretty sure if I was new in the game and I want to do my personal story I rather not way 4 weeks til “whenever” either Lions Arch is either A. Fix to new (in a revamp style or old skins) or left as ruins.
If this is suppose to be a living world, shouldn’t it be well living? NPCs should be gossiping what’s going on in their world aswell.
They are kind of treating it like same BS different day. Rinse and repeat. If you want to make the world a living story, truly make it such. Curious Scholars, vigils or Order of Whispers will seek and search to see if everything is “living” as they claim including when it interferes with the personal story.

PS story is the bane of the LW. I believe they are working on a means to move pass this problem but it will take time and resources. They would have to basically restructure this PS. That’s a lot of work so it is not happening anytime soon.

But they are trying to at least move forward. LA will be back as a hub though, like 98% sure.

Nesiko Tomoe.2068:

Or they can simply correct it. I’m pretty sure if I was new in the game and I want to do my personal story I rather not way 4 weeks til “whenever” either Lions Arch is either A. Fix to new (in a revamp style or old skins) or left as ruins.
If this is suppose to be a living world, shouldn’t it be well living? NPCs should be gossiping what’s going on in their world aswell.
They are kind of treating it like same BS different day. Rinse and repeat. If you want to make the world a living story, truly make it such. Curious Scholars, vigils or Order of Whispers will seek and search to see if everything is “living” as they claim including when it interferes with the personal story.

It isn’t. And it hasn’t been sadly. NPCs in DR still talk about late shipments from LA. Quests around LA still reference the city no differently than they did before this patch. The world didn’t really change any. It is a very localized change. Kind of a shame imo.

That’s why I personally believe the expansion model is a better fit for MMOs than the Living Story. I admire what ANet is trying to create, but introducing new regions where the story takes place in a distinct period of the future is much better for a static story like the PS since it avoids any conflicts.

It cannot stay this way, Living story might be a living, evolving world, but personal story ONLY evolves as you move through it, and once completed, it is an event in the past. And a past event simply cannot be twisted with a present one. It doesn’t make any sense that way. ANet has stated, and there have been many events in living story that confirm it, that living story comes after personal story… and while it may not bother we who have already completed personal story, what about new players? it ruins the game for them, and cannot simply be brushed aside.

This is only one of many reasons why the LW is simply not as good a concept as Anet management seems to zealously believe it is.

Caveth.3268:

Unfortunately, the personal storyline instances still take place AFTER Scarlet has invaded LA. It ruins any immersion in the story…

• Kids are playing in a burning city filled with miasma and Scarlet’s armies.
• Tybalt is selling apples in the empty ruins of LA
• Destiny’s Edge discussing the threat of Dragons while Scarlet destroys LA…
• Caithe: We cannot help the others. How can we help Tyria? …………………………………………………..

Perhaps start by saving people in LA instead of creating drama with your former guild?

ROTFLMAO! If I were in your shoes, I would report this as a game bug. That way. Anet can fix this so the PS scenes can have their own scenes of Lion’s Arch.

Einlanzer.1627:

This is only one of many reasons why the LW is simply not as good a concept as Anet management seems to zealously believe it is.

I disagree-I think it’s great concept and indeed the direction mmorpgs should be rather than a poor imitation of a story driven single player rpg. However, the problem (aside from delivery thus far…although this patch is a lot of fun imo and inspires hope for the future) is the single player rpg story came first then LS was an afterthought. Imagine if the game started with LS as the method to convey the narrative of Tyria and the PS never existed. Continuity issues? Gone. Excessive plot holes? Gone. Parallel universe syndrome? Gone…….Trahearne? Gone (<-WIN! seriously, how can you argue with that?). Imainge if Zhaitan’s blight was the LS…ah what could have been.

Imbune.5497:

Einlanzer.1627:

This is only one of many reasons why the LW is simply not as good a concept as Anet management seems to zealously believe it is.

I disagree-I think it’s great concept and indeed the direction mmorpgs should be rather than a poor imitation of a story driven single player rpg. However, the problem (aside from delivery thus far…although this patch is a lot of fun imo and inspires hope for the future) is the single player rpg story came first then LS was an afterthought. Imagine if the game started with LS as the method to convey the narrative of Tyria and the PS never existed. Continuity issues? Gone. Excessive plot holes? Gone. Parallel universe syndrome? Gone…….Trahearne? Gone (<-WIN! seriously, how can you argue with that?). Imainge if Zhaitan’s blight was the LS…ah what could have been.

Would you read a book with the first half torn out? or watch a movie that has no pause or rewind feature and can only be played once? even tv shows like game of thorns, which they so regularily strive to compair, has reruns, can be tapped, and will cell CDs, the whole concept of one time entertainment Iis flawed, because entertainment is meant to be viewed and enjoyed more than once, a story, is only good, only comprehensable if you see the whole plot through, and adventure is most enjoyable experienced from begining to end, and it doesn’t make sense for someone to randomly pop up in the middle of it. no, living story should by no means be seen as a viable replacement for personal story.

This is a legitimate bug issue, why has ANet not replied???

Because it isn’t technically a bug?
It is working exact as they have coded it to work.

It might not be the ultimate way to get it to work, but it is still working as intended, and thus not a bug.

lordkrall.7241:

Because it isn’t technically a bug?
It is working exact as they have coded it to work.

It might not be the ultimate way to get it to work, but it is still working as intended, and thus not a bug.

Anet can do on wrong can they?

This was ill planned. As other players have shown kids playing in a burning city with poisonous gas makes no sense.

He’s right. It’s not a bug. It’s a lazy design choice but not really a bug. They did it intentionally because they either plan on reverting LA so soon that it won’t be worth the work, or they just don’t care.

lordkrall.7241:

Because it isn’t technically a bug?
It is working exact as they have coded it to work.

It might not be the ultimate way to get it to work, but it is still working as intended, and thus not a bug.

Okay, I sumbit on that point, bug was a poor choice of words, as indeed their programing is doing exactly what it was programed to do, create a closed portion of the existing map. And prehaps to change this is outside of their engines mechanics, that the core system is programed to do such, and as such, they have no viable fix. however, it is poor planing and unprofessional to leave it this way. I believe we can conceed on that.

This topic is up for 8 days now. No response from Anet.

SIMPLY HORRIBLE.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Would you read a book with the first half torn out? or watch a movie that has no pause or rewind feature and can only be played once? even tv shows like game of thorns, which they so regularily strive to compair, has reruns, can be tapped, and will cell CDs, the whole concept of one time entertainment Iis flawed, because entertainment is meant to be viewed and enjoyed more than once, a story, is only good, only comprehensable if you see the whole plot through, and adventure is most enjoyable experienced from begining to end, and it doesn’t make sense for someone to randomly pop up in the middle of it. no, living story should by no means be seen as a viable replacement for personal story.

I am a new player. And I agree with you. I play the personal story for the first time, and I am NOT willing to wait untill they they “fix” their living world.

I am not interested in the living world story, because I do not know anything about it. I simply do not CARE enough. I am only annoyed, because they ruined the personal story immersion.

This “living world” would make more sense, if they had instanced the timeline in chapters, like a book. As new player I am not insterested in a story, I cannot relive. I do not read books, that were destroyed by removing the pages, after someone other had read them.

As example: I am quit annoyed about the senseless toxis whatever events in the regions. They make, from MY point of view, absolutely no sense at all. They do not FIT in my world, and my personal story. So I ignore them.

From my point of view, this is not a living, but a paradox, senseless world.

Arena Net may implement phasing technology in Guild Wars 2. Those who have not finished the Personal Story in Lion’s Arch will experience different from those who did.

Just bad game design and a huge oversight, but this is what happens when you have to rush “content” to meet a deadline, the finer details get missed. Well in this case it was more of a glaring inconsistency.

This is one of the reasons I abhor the Living Story. The bi-monthly release schedule simply doesn’t leave enough time to ensure quality is up to par. The level of polish and attention to details for the Living Story hasn’t been anywhere near the bar set by the game at release.

A simple solution to this is to make old LA into an instanced map. I do think they planned about this, they may just be keeping the atmosphere of the LS coherent, although at the expense of those who still did not finish their characters’ PS (main or alts).